Why are they so angry, and are they really pro-choice?

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Alot of pro-right to abortion people, are violently angry, and not pro-choice in general. For examples of pro-choice violence, google it. And many of the same people who claim pro choice status, are anti choice with respect to not having an abortion, as well as free speech, freedom of religion, the right to keep and bear arms, being a stay at home mother, the right of parents to be involved in their children’s education and where to allow education, etc…
I can’t judge, because I struggle with sin as we all do, but They are being hypocrites, and I must call them on it. I will pray for them, but their pro choice status is questionable at best.
 
I agree with you totally. The propaganda called “pro-choice” is nothing more than pro-death.

I believe their anger and aggressive stance comes from the fact that, down deep, they know the truth, yet they are too afraid to face it.

Their heart tells them that a child is the ultimate miracle, a miracle that God allows us to partake in.

Yet the culture’s constant, overwhelming desire for instant, selfish self- gratification, no matter what the cost, temporarily overcomes the Creator’s perfection.

Their anger and hatred are in part, a self-loathing, for not standing up for the most precious, the most Christ-like among us, the unborn children.

I am consoled by the Saints and by the example in our day provided by so many, especially Mother Theresa, Papa Johannes Paulus II, and currently Papa Benedictus XVI.

I have come to know that I am the ultimate sinner and therefore can cast judgment on no one. Yet I must stand up against the pure evil that we face today, no matter what the cost!

Do not be afraid! The louder they scream, the farther they are from the Truth.
 
Speaking as a convert from the culture of death, I think Mark has a good point. But there is another thought pattern that is going on here. They think: “WE know what is best for the world!” and they are angry because “They” (i.e. prolifers, home schoolers, etc) will not admit this.

I dunno… maybe they think if they just shout loud enough, we’ll “get it”? :rolleyes:

Been there, done with that.

Ruthie
 
Alot of pro-right to abortion people, are violently angry …
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Interesting thought. Perhaps there are not a few people out there who are angry with life, with God, with suffering, and may adopt a pro-choice/pro-abortion stance simply as a projection of their anger - a surrogate battleground, a disordered response as a symptom of their overall wounded psyche. You know, there may be something to this …

(Hey, a couple of online courses and a Cracker Jack box diploma and I too could be a 2-cent psychologist.)

Tim
 
traillius and Ruthie:

Please explain your connection between being pro-choice and maintaining a strong resistance to “free speech, freedom of religion, the right to keep and bear arms, being a stay at home mother, the right of parents to be involved in their children’s education and where to allow education, etc…” These beliefs and choices are not mutually exclusive.

And kindly bear in mind that 99% of what anyone reads on this forum can be interpreted as "“WE [Catholics] know what is best for the world!” because true Catholics appear to think or know or believe that they’ve got the only set of keys to the Kingdom.

marietta
 
marietta said:
traillius and Ruthie:

Please explain your connection between being pro-choice and maintaining a strong resistance to “free speech, freedom of religion, the right to keep and bear arms, being a stay at home mother, the right of parents to be involved in their children’s education and where to allow education, etc…” These beliefs and choices are not mutually exclusive.

And kindly bear in mind that 99% of what anyone reads on this forum can be interpreted as "“WE [Catholics] know what is best for the world!” because true Catholics appear to think or know or believe that they’ve got the only set of keys to the Kingdom.

marietta
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Bottom line-it’s all about one group of people wanting everyone else to think the way they do. The passions on this issue tend to bring out a lot of anger-on both sides.

I certianly don’t think either side has a monopoly on anger.
 
marietta said:
And kindly bear in mind that 99% of what anyone reads on this forum can be interpreted as "“WE [Catholics] know what is best for the world!” because true Catholics appear to think or know or believe that they’ve got the only set of keys to the Kingdom.
marietta
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Yes, “WE [Catholics]” know that protecting the lives of the unborn during their most vulnerable period of life is certainly, without question, what is best for the world!
 
traillius said:
Alot of pro-right to abortion people, are violently angry, and not pro-choice in general. For examples of pro-choice violence, google it. And many of the same people who claim pro choice status, are anti choice with respect to not having an abortion, as well as free speech, freedom of religion, the right to keep and bear arms, being a stay at home mother, the right of parents to be involved in their children’s education and where to allow education, etc…
I can’t judge, because I struggle with sin as we all do, but They are being hypocrites, and I must call them on it. I will pray for them, but their pro choice status is questionable at best.
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Is this actually a question or just a rant?
 
RWMorris said:
There is nothing sinful about righteous anger; the pro-choice crowd is missing the righteous part of the equation.
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There may not be anything sinful in it, but I still don’t believe that anger is the best way to convince the unconvinced.
 
Fitswimmer said:
Bottom line-it’s all about one group of people wanting everyone else to think the way they do. The passions on this issue tend to bring out a lot of anger-on both sides.

I certianly don’t think either side has a monopoly on anger.
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I totally agree, Fit! 😊
This issue, like very few others, elicits anger, even rage-- by [esp. extremists on] both ‘sides’.
 
Fitswimmer said:
Bottom line-it’s all about one group of people wanting everyone else to think the way they do. The passions on this issue tend to bring out a lot of anger-on both sides.

I certianly don’t think either side has a monopoly on anger.
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👍 👍 👍
 
Talk to the prolifers who blow up abortion clinics and shoot doctors and clinic staff about anger and hatred. Is there honestly nothing sinful about this? Last I heard ‘thou shalt not kill’ was still a commandment that applied equally to pro-lifers as to pro-choice, and while self-defence and defence of country in wartime is a legitimate excuse, offing people because they’re sinners isn’t.

I may be wrong, but I’ve never heard of a pro-life group’s office ever being bombed or a pro-life activist or campaigner being killed by a pro-choicer, whatever else they may do.
 
traillius said:
Alot of pro-right to abortion people, are violently angry, and not pro-choice in general. For examples of pro-choice violence, google it. And many of the same people who claim pro choice status, are anti choice with respect to not having an abortion, as well as free speech, freedom of religion, the right to keep and bear arms, being a stay at home mother, the right of parents to be involved in their children’s education and where to allow education, etc…
I can’t judge, because I struggle with sin as we all do, but They are being hypocrites, and I must call them on it. I will pray for them, but their pro choice status is questionable at best.
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Please remember that those exhibiting unreasonable anger might be protecting themselves.

Abortion has touched everyone, from the woman herself to her partner, relatives, siblings, etc.

Often, when I’ve conversed about abortion online or in real life and find the response to be out of proportion, there is a background to the person. For example, a man saw my bumper sticker, which is more the “loving” type and became so angry he was squeaking and turning red. Turns out his daughter aborted her twins, unplanned pregnancy at age 17.

When you’re on the issue of losing an innocent human, it drives people beyond logic and reason.
 
LilyM:

Thank you for the much-needed balance you provide in your post.

marietta
 
LilyM said:
Talk to the prolifers who blow up abortion clinics and shoot doctors and clinic staff about anger and hatred. Is there honestly nothing sinful about this? Last I heard ‘thou shalt not kill’ was still a commandment that applied equally to pro-lifers as to pro-choice, and while self-defence and defence of country in wartime is a legitimate excuse, offing people because they’re sinners isn’t.

I may be wrong, but I’ve never heard of a pro-life group’s office ever being bombed or a pro-life activist or campaigner being killed by a pro-choicer, whatever else they may do.
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Nice post LilyM. You surprised me with that one. 🙂
 
LilyM said:
I may be wrong, but I’ve never heard of a pro-life group’s office ever being bombed or a pro-life activist or campaigner being killed by a pro-choicer, whatever else they may do.
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And it’s wrong for those “pro-lifers” to engage in violence.

In any case, the pro-choicers don’t need to actually engage in violence against pro-life activists. Their support for abortion is more than enough to show their intentions even if they don’t actually perform an abortion themselves.
 
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