Not sure what divorcing from the Catholic faith means, but I can say that I’ve seen much variation in beliefs within the RCC. As a friend described it to me, the Catholic church takes a ‘federal’ approach, allowing each ‘state’ to do pretty much as it pleases. So you have different orders - such as the Benedictines - or in extreme cases ‘gay’ nuns for instance.
So you believe that the church shouldn’t welcome in outsiders? What if I did my homework on the teachings and the first time I went I was made to feel unwelcomed and uncomfortable so I didn’t want to go back, nor be part of said “community”?
Pretty sure they’re not, if you’ve ever seen any of their protests. That’s a touch of a strawman.
No, crai.
Benedictines, Dominicans, Franciscans, etc, all are bound to accept and profess everything taught in our catechism.
Not sure what you mean here. Being a gay nun is not contrary to Catholicism. We all have disordered desires, and if you couldn’t be a nun because you had a bad desire, then no one could be a nun.
Well I’m not sure how you could be prevented from partaking in communion/eucharist. Christ didn’t say it depended on a piece of paper or membership in a ‘denomination’. If you’re a Christian then you participate in eating the bread/wafer and wine. Whether you believe it is symbolic or transubstantiation… that’s in your own head and beyond the reach of any earthly authority.
No, TC. I said the exact opposite of that. The Catholic Church SHOULD be more welcoming.
That doesn’t change my answer one bit. You should evaluate Catholicism based on her teachings, and whether she is the Church established by Christ.
Point is: you could have the most welcoming church community preaching the most bizarre doctrines, right?
This flies in the face of everything I’ve read, heard, etc… about partaking in the Eucharist.
We would prevent you by letting you know that non-Catholics cannot join in our communion.
I suppose you are also a believer in pre-marital sex?
And as I said, what if I did and it was so close that it really came down to how I found the Church exclusionary vs. inclusionary and that is something that is important to me.
I’m not sure any of the protestant churches I’ve been to would ‘sanction’ a divorce from there specific teaching either - usually you would have to form a new church.
Well, if you did that, and rejected Catholicism because people didn’t smile at you at Mass, that would be like leaving Jesus because Judas stole money from the pot.
Then they would be inconsistent, and allowing for themselves (we can “protest” Catholicism!) that which they object to in their congregation (but **you **can’t “protest”)
Where is that in the Bible?
Public sanctioning is not part of our modus typically.
Firstly, the Church isn’t the RCC. It isn’t Roman. It’s universal. We are the Catholic Church, not the Roman Catholic Church. The Roman rite is just one (albeit the largest) of more than 20 rites in the CC.
Prayers for sure for both of you. God Bless, Memaw
Not sure what you mean by inconsistent? If someone has radically different views then it is better they go there own way.
All over the NT. The letters are to different churches. Even in early Christendom there were different churches with different practices.
You say sanctioning isn’t the modus, and yet you say they are not tolerated… so what happens to them then?
At this point, I don’t see how this differs from fragmentation in the Protestant denominations? Eastern Rite churches don’t even report to the Pope or Vatican. Their finances and hierarchy are entirely separate - so in effect the Rites in CC are as divided as the Protestants. The Schism of a thousand years ago led to strained relations and eventually war with the Byzantines; just as Luther, Calvin, Henry VIII’s disagreements with Rome led to strained relations and eventually war.
Yes from the Catholic hierarchy’s point of view it would be a problem. But ultimately it is between you and God.
Not really, it will come up again and again in your conscience. You know it’s not right or you wouldn’t be on here trying to convince us it is. Your Lutheran Pastor doesn’t have the final answer, God does. We can talk ourselves into almost anything if we try hard enough, right or wrong!! Prayers and God Bless, Memaw
No, it isn’t, because church is not about having the same views. It’s about being the Bod of Christ.
The NT letters were written to different churches in different cities. Or do you mean Paul’s references to “X and the church that is in her house?” Yes, there were house churches in large cities, but 1 Corinthians makes it very clear that they were all supposed to be one unified body, even if they met in small “cells.”
No, although they are not in fact perfectly united. (Not talking about uniformity here, but about the fact that you can have a Latin church and a Byzantine church in the same places, even competing with each other to some extent.) Or more precisely, they are as divided as very close Protestant denominations are, which fully cooperate and recognize each other’s doctrines as true.
No your NOT right. You misunderstand what the different Orders really are. And where in the world did you come up with gay nuns for petes sake? Is there no end to things thrown at the Catholic Church either by misunderstandings or at times I think deliberately??? Maybe all Catholics are not faithful to what the Catholic Church teaches, they have a free will, but that doesn’t make them a denomination or it doesn’t make the Catholic Church wrong. Name me one other organization that has lived for over 2,000 years, been thru what the Catholic Church has come thru and still going strong, teaching what Jesus taught, (no caving into Heresy’s or secularism). That should be proof enough that the Catholic Church is protected and guided by the Holy Spirit as Jesus said it would. God Bless, Memaw