Why are you not Catholic?

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PRmerger said:
Why do you want to know? Why are you only interested in the women’s views? And Americans?
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Maybe some wish that if enough Christians reject the Church’s official position on something, it makes the Church wrong?:rolleyes:
 
PRmerger said:
Why do you want to know?
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Because I heard it was about 95% of married couples that have used ABC. At a church picnic, a priest offhandedly remarked that it was almost everyone (married) in his parish.
 
PRmerger said:
Why the interest in women’s views?
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Because women are the ones who are taking the popular birth control pill. The local HMO calls women after they have given birth to a child and asks them what form of birth control do they want. They do not call the husbands.
 
Tomdstone said:
Because women are the ones who are taking the popular birth control pill. The local HMO calls women after they have given birth to a child and asks them what form of birth control do they want. They do not call the husbands.
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That doesn’t answer why you don’t care what the men’s view is.

Nor why you care only about American (Catholic) women’s POV.

At any rate, the number of US Catholics who dissent from the Church is 77%, according to the Pew Research organization.

pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/10/03/vatican-synod-on-family-highlights-discord-between-church-teachings-and-u-s-catholics-views-2/

I googled it.

Just like you could have.

Not sure why you felt the need to ask someone else to do what was at your fingertips in the same way as mine.
 
My wife and I are looking into birth control because we have two children (plus I have five from a previous non-marital relationship) and absolutely cannot have a third. My wife’s health is the reason as she has multiple sclerosis and the next pregnancy can put her into a wheel chair for life or worse.

While my wife herself is not looking to do any form of birth control involving her body, we are looking at me getting a vasectomy.

We know that sex in marriage brings unity and do not believe that when using birth control it breaks that unity one bit. So abstaining is not an option for us.
 
lonegreywolf20 said:
My wife and I are looking into birth control because we have two children (plus I have five from a previous non-marital relationship) and absolutely cannot have a third. My wife’s health is the reason as she has multiple sclerosis and the next pregnancy can put her into a wheel chair for life or worse.

While my wife herself is not looking to do any form of birth control involving her body, we are looking at me getting a vasectomy.

We know that sex in marriage brings unity and do not believe that when using birth control it breaks that unity one bit. So abstaining is not an option for us.
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To tell you the truth, the many Catholics (as Tomdstone mentioned)
who use contraception and sterilize themselves without remorse and struggling against it through confession, penance or fasting are more of a problem to our faith than folks like you. At least you find a communion that teaches what you believe.

I find it to be a struggle for sure. But many aspects of the faith are a struggle, and even against our natural opinions.
 
PRmerger said:
At any rate, the number of US Catholics who dissent from the Church is 77%, according to the Pew Research organization…
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Was the poll restricted to married American Catholic women, or did it include unmarried clergy and nuns?
 
I am not Catholic mainly because I was born into a Protestant family and only started inquiring into Catholicism last year.

I have concerns with some Catholic doctrines (mostly Marian ones) but I have grown to deeply respect Catholicism to the point where I am leaning toward attending RCIA in the fall and see if I can overcome my obstacles with God’s help and that of the RCIA staff.

However, I will not convert if I cannot genuinely assent to all Catholic teachings. I am a genuine person who doesn’t want to pretend to be something I am not.

Another big obstacle is that my wife is a lifelong evangelical protestant who has a lot of misconceptions about Catholicism. We recently had a “discussion” about it and she threatened to leave me if I decided to join the Catholic Church.

After I convinced her that I am genuinely being led by the Holy Spirit to inquire more into Catholicism, she indicated she would not oppose it if I truly felt God was leading me to attend RCIA, especially after I told her that RCIA was several months in length and that I could leave it if I still had serious reservations after attending for a few months.

I would appreciate your prayers as I continue to discern and grow in my spiritual journey with the Lord, and please pray for my wife, whom I love dearly but who is not at the same place I am in our spiritual journeys. :tiphat:.
 
If a woman of child bearing age dies of trauma in a Catholic hospital, is testing performed to determine if she is carrying an unimplanted fertilized egg? If such a condition became known, would anything be done to continue the unimplanted life?
 
Tommy999 said:
I would appreciate your prayers as I continue to discern and grow in my spiritual journey with the Lord, and please pray for my wife, whom I love dearly but who is not at the same place I am in our spiritual journeys. :tiphat:.
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I enjoyed reading your post. Not just because you ‘may’ enter the Catholic Communion, but because I can relate your desire to when I was discerning the faith.

The thing that strikes me so hard is your wife’s position (although you mentioned she seemed to reconsider her initial extreme threat). What does that mean for a wife to say such a thing?

I don’t raise attention as if I want to fuel contempt. I will pray right after this post for you and her. You are right that she is going to be a an important part of your faith discernment. And the way that she talks makes me think even if you remain non-Catholic, she has some issues that won’t go away without genuine faith to overcome.

I will pray for wise members in your local Parish, but also for you to be able to open your heart at Mass. That you can put away worldly anxieties and lift your heart to Him, for His good will. We should agree that if you seek His guidance and confirmation, He will provide. Look for sign around you, and be willing to be led.

Now I will pray. Peace be with you and your bride! I am praying that you have much love for her!
 
rcwitness said:
I enjoyed reading your post. Not just because you ‘may’ enter the Catholic Communion, but because I can relate your desire to when I was discerning the faith.

**The thing that strikes me so hard is your wife’s position (although you mentioned she seemed to reconsider her initial extreme threat). What does that mean for a wife to say such a thing? **
I don’t raise attention as if I want to fuel contempt. I will pray right after this post for you and her. You are right that she is going to be a an important part of your faith discernment. And the way that she talks makes me think even if you remain non-Catholic, she has some issues that won’t go away without genuine faith to overcome.

I will pray for wise members in your local Parish, but also for you to be able to open your heart at Mass. That you can put away worldly anxieties and lift your heart to Him, for His good will. We should agree that if you seek His guidance and confirmation, He will provide. Look for sign around you, and be willing to be led.

Now I will pray. Peace be with you and your bride! I am praying that you have much love for her!
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Thanks for your prayers, Rcwitness. I appreciate it a lot.

A little more context is in order. My wife is a fiery redhead of Irish descent who sometimes lets her emotions get the best of her. However, she genuinely loves God and wants to serve Him, but she has not been drawn to Catholicism like I have been, at least as of yet. She was frightened about something she knows little about and reacted defensively out of fear of the unknown, especially since both of us are now in our 50’s and are lifelong protestants.

Hopefully, she will come around. If not, I know of some “mixed marriages” that work out just fine.

I remained calm during our exchange and did my best to not fuel the fire. I think it was a major accomplishment for her to say she will not stand in my way if I wanted to pursue Catholicism at this point in my life.
 
mek42 said:
If a woman of child bearing age dies of trauma in a Catholic hospital, is testing performed to determine if she is carrying an unimplanted fertilized egg? If such a condition became known, would anything be done to continue the unimplanted life?
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Do you know much about this, medically?

What is involved in determining that? Would it be legal?

How would “continuation” be done? Would it require a surrogate?
 
Tommy999 said:
Thanks for your prayers, Rcwitness. I appreciate it a lot.

A little more context is in order. My wife is a fiery redhead of Irish descent who sometimes lets her emotions get the best of her. However, she genuinely loves God and wants to serve Him, but she has not been drawn to Catholicism like I have been, at least as of yet. She was frightened about something she knows little about and reacted defensively out of fear of the unknown, especially since both of us are now in our 50’s and are lifelong protestants.

Hopefully, she will come around. If not, I know of some “mixed marriages” that work out just fine.

I remained calm during our exchange and did my best to not fuel the fire. I think it was a major accomplishment for her to say she will not stand in my way if I wanted to pursue Catholicism at this point in my life.
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I have virtually no stake in this forum, but does everyone here but like two people have to discuss the schematics of marriages & weird what-if’s about ovaries? Can’t this be moved to its own discussion so as to not crowd out non-Catholics such as myself who want to engage in dialogue with others? Please?
 
lonegreywolf20 said:
My wife and I are looking into birth control because we have two children (plus I have five from a previous non-marital relationship) and absolutely cannot have a third. My wife’s health is the reason as she has multiple sclerosis and the next pregnancy can put her into a wheel chair for life or worse.

While my wife herself is not looking to do any form of birth control involving her body, we are looking at me getting a vasectomy.

We know that sex in marriage brings unity and do not believe that when using birth control it breaks that unity one bit. So abstaining is not an option for us.
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I suggest you look into Natural Family Planning.

Call your local Catholic diocese (you don’t need to be Catholic) to find the nearest NFP education center.
 
Kosta said:
I have virtually no stake in this forum, but does everyone here but like two people have to discuss the schematics of marriages & weird what-if’s about ovaries? Can’t this be moved to its own discussion so as to not crowd out non-Catholics such as myself who want to engage in dialogue with others? Please?
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Sorry if you’re reffering to me. 😛

It has gotten strange. But that’s kinda what happens when you have everyones opinions of Catholic Teaching. We get all sorts of scenerios thrown at us. Kinda remindo me of the Pharisees texting Jesus.

But you also get genuine and understandable reasons which deserve answers. The Apostles always had questions for Jesus.
 
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