Why aren't Muslims who pray five times a day guided to the Church?

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I thought that regular praying would lead the soul to the truth. Muslims who pray often obviously want to be with God, so why aren’t they guided to the Church?

I prayed the rosary today, for my Muslim friend to believe in the Church. He’s going to read the Bible after reading the Qu 'ran so I’m hoping that could be the time when he realises the truth. What are your opinions?
 
It probably has something to do with the way salah (ritual Islamic prayer) is organized. While the first thing Muslims say in their prayer is the al fatiha, the opening surah of the Qur’an, which is basically a prayer for guidance, they then add other suras. The most widely used sura aside from the al-fatiha is the sura al-ikhlas (sura 112) which is in direct contrast to Christianity as it actually completely rejects Jesus’ divinity.

At the end of the salah, Muslims then add a blessing specifically to Muhammad and his family, thereby exalting him above all others.

I don’t really see how someone who several times a day affirms their belief that Jesus is not divine and that Muhammad was basically a perfect human being could be guided towards the Church.
 
which is in direct contrast to Christianity as it actually completely rejects Jesus’ divinity.

At the end of the salah, Muslims then add a blessing specifically to Muhammad and his family, thereby exalting him above all others.

I don’t really see how someone who several times a day affirms their belief that Jesus is not divine and that Muhammad was basically a perfect human being could be guided towards the Church.
Thank you for this really good answer, but this is really sad! It really upsets me that my best friend doesn’t understand Christ :(.

To Saint Faustina, Jesus said that we could obtain anything for ourselves and others in the 3 ‘o clock prayer and I believe that if I pray that he may believe in Jesus’ sacrifice, it’s related enough.

Mary said something similar to Saint Bernadette regarding the rosary, so do you think there’s a high chance he may believe?
 
Thank you for this really good answer, but this is really sad! It really upsets me that my best friend doesn’t understand Christ :(.

To Saint Faustina, Jesus said that we could obtain anything for ourselves and others in the 3 ‘o clock prayer and I believe that if I pray that he may believe in Jesus’ sacrifice, it’s related enough.

Mary said something similar to Saint Bernadette regarding the rosary, so do you think there’s a high chance he may believe?
Yes, I do believe.

I am praying for conversions of friends and family too, not any are Muslim, but I should add them to my prayers.
 
Praying for Muslims is the best thing we can do. I find it pointless to share our faith with those who come here, because they reject the truth of Christ. Praying for them is the best way.

God bless you!
 
Yes, I do believe.

I am praying for conversions of friends and family too, not any are Muslim, but I should add them to my prayers.
Thank you! I’ll also pray for your friends and family tomorrow at 3.

I wonder if the Qu 'ran is so convincing that after reading it, you wouldn’t believe in the Bible.
 
Praying for Muslims is the best thing we can do. I find it pointless to share our faith with those who come here, because they reject the truth of Christ. Praying for them is the best way.

God bless you!
hi kathleen. that is one of the things i found attractive about Catholocism. no matter what the issue, crises, etc. the first thing is Prayer. i feel that we are at our best as Catholics, when we are praying. it really is what we do. wheather in the liturgy, or in our private time. Peace 🙂
 
Praying for Muslims is the best thing we can do. I find it pointless to share our faith with those who come here, because they reject the truth of Christ. Praying for them is the best way.

God bless you!
I agree. Praying the rosary for my sister prevented her from converting to Islam. I can’t believe Muslims think that Muhammed is more holy than Jesus! Don’t they believe in the anti-christ? Why would Christ be less than a [false] prophet?!
 
There is a “scent/hint” in your words/comments that God is not doing his part for…Muslim’s who pray 5x/day…and for you/me/others who pray for conversion(s) to Christ…and also a hint of “your/my timing” is preferable to God’s Divine Providence. I would guess (actually I strongly believe) that this is not your conscious thought or intent…but our pride can lead us down this road very, very easily…and we get “cross-ways” with God’s plan…even when we are “doing good”!

A few points…simply for your consideration:

First…God is always the First Cause of all that is good and holy and true…so when you even think about your Muslim friend and have a feeling/desire for him/her to come to Jesus and you even follow up with actual prayer…making it a petition…it is God’s initiative that you are responding to…or as my priest-chaplain’s in the Marine Corps always told me (quite often)…*"…don’t break you arm patting yourself on the back because you feel/desire/make a prayer request to God for anyone/anything…it is always and everywhere …you simply responding to the graces of the Holy Spirit. *Your response is efficacious and noteworthy as spiritual work of mercy…but you are simply responding to God’s call.
2002 ** God’s free initiative demands *man’s free ***response, for God has created man in his image by conferring on him, along with freedom, the power to know him and love him. The soul only enters freely into the communion of love. God immediately touches and directly moves the heart of man. He has placed in man a longing for truth and goodness that only he can satisfy. The promises of “eternal life” respond, beyond all hope, to this desire:

If at the end of your very good works . . ., you rested on the seventh day, it was to foretell by the voice of your book that at the end of our works, which are indeed “very good” since you have given them to us, we shall also rest in you on the sabbath of eternal life.52 2009 Filial adoption, in making us partakers by grace in the divine nature, can bestow true merit on us as a result of God’s gratuitous justice. This is our right by grace, the full right of love, making us “co-heirs” with Christ and worthy of obtaining "the promised inheritance of eternal life."60** The merits of our good works are gifts of the divine goodness.61 "Grace has gone before us;** now we are given what is due. . . . Our merits are God’s gifts."62
THE UNIVERSAL CALL TO PRAYER
2566
Man is in search of God. In the act of creation, God calls every being from nothingness into existence. “Crowned with glory and honor,” man is, after the angels, capable of acknowledging "how majestic is the name of the Lord in all the earth."1 Even after losing through his sin his likeness to God, man remains an image of his Creator, and retains the desire for the one who calls him into existence.** All religions bear witness to men’s essential search for God.2**

2567** God calls man first**. Man may forget his Creator or hide far from his face; he may run after idols or accuse the deity of having abandoned him; yet the living and true God tirelessly calls each person to that mysterious encounter known as prayer. In prayer, the faithful God’s initiative of love always comes first; our own first step is always a response. As God gradually reveals himself and reveals man to himself, prayer appears as a reciprocal call, a covenant drama. Through words and actions, this drama engages the heart. It unfolds throughout the whole history of salvation.
Second.…keep in mind the (hopefully not likely in your friend’s case)…the danger for Muslims who leave Islam for another faith…especially for the Christian or Jewish faiths.
A popular Muslim author who was baptized by Pope Benedict XVI Saturday night said that his life is now in great danger because of his conversion to Catholicism.
“I realize what I am going up against but I will confront my fate with my head high, with my back straight and the interior strength of one who is certain about his faith,” said Magdi Allam, formerly Italy’s most prominent Muslim, according to Reuters.
christianpost.com/article/20080324/muslim-baptized-by-pope-says-life-in-great-danger/index.html
Pax Christi
 
Yes, and the other issue is that a Muslim’s life is endangered when they leave…not in all cases…but in many.
 
This is in response to the opening Thread…

I have found out that the Quran is dimetrically oppossed to the Bible, i.e the most holy action on the word, is the most detestable in the Quran. The most detestable practice in the bible is most holy in the Quran… my source is in the following link, where a former Palestinian terrorist turned Christian reveals.

watch feature video- link…

Also in the Quran, their equivalent of Old testament is peaceful and their equivalent New testament is violent… This is the oppposite for the bible. Where we have war in the Old testament and peace in the New. Thats why we hear the “Joshua taking land” arguement over and over again from both Atheists and Muslims.

But exposing your muslim friend to the bible is a very good start. I will also keep you in Prayer, this is needed. Witness to him.

Peace be with You…

Mark
 
I thought that regular praying would lead the soul to the truth. Muslims who pray often obviously want to be with God, so why aren’t they guided to the Church?
Simply because Muslims are asking at least 17 times a day a different path than the one for the Jews and Christians:

Surah#1
"In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful, Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds, Most Gracious, Most Merciful, Master of the Day of Judgment, Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek, Show us the straight way, The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray."

Wrath: Jews.
Astray: Christians.
Source.
 
I agree. Praying the rosary for my sister prevented her from converting to Islam. I can’t believe Muslims think that Muhammed is more holy than Jesus! Don’t they believe in the anti-christ? Why would Christ be less than a [false] prophet?!
mohammed is more holy than jesus ? i don’t think that it’s accurate understanding , read this verse if you want to know what muslims believe

2-136 Say (O’muslims): We believe in Allah and (in) that which had been revealed to us, and (in) that which was revealed to Ibrahim and Ismail and Ishaq and Yaqoub and the tribes, and (in) that which was given to Musa and Isa, and (in) that which was given to the prophets from their Lord,** we do not make any distinction between any of them**, and to Him(God) do we submit.

3-84 Say: We believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us, and what was revealed to Ibrahim and Ismail and Ishaq and Yaqoub and the tribes, and what was given to Musa and Isa and to the prophets from their Lord; we do not make any distinction between any of them, and to Him do we submit.
 
Simply because Muslims are asking at least 17 times a day a different path than the one for the Jews and Christians:

Surah#1
"In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful, Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds, Most Gracious, Most Merciful, Master of the Day of Judgment, Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek, Show us the straight way, The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray."

Wrath: Jews.
Astray: Christians.
Source.
Good point. I forgot to mention that in my post.
mohammed is more holy than jesus ? i don’t think that it’s accurate understanding , read this verse if you want to know what muslims believe

2-136 Say (O’muslims): We believe in Allah and (in) that which had been revealed to us, and (in) that which was revealed to Ibrahim and Ismail and Ishaq and Yaqoub and the tribes, and (in) that which was given to Musa and Isa, and (in) that which was given to the prophets from their Lord,** we do not make any distinction between any of them**, and to Him(God) do we submit.

3-84 Say: We believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us, and what was revealed to Ibrahim and Ismail and Ishaq and Yaqoub and the tribes, and what was given to Musa and Isa and to the prophets from their Lord; we do not make any distinction between any of them, and to Him do we submit.
Then why do you ask for specific blessings for Muhammad and not for any of the other prophets in your prayers? Why do Muslim men try to emulate him by wearing their beards a certain way? Why is it “best” to fast on Mondays and Thursdays?
I have known a lot of Muslims who think that they have to try to copy Muhammad in every way possible.
While your scriptures might say one thing about the prophets, but your (you as in Sunnis, not you specifically) actions say that Muhammad was indeed better than the rest. It seems like a lot of Sunnis like to elevate him to a god-like status. Where it becomes dangerous is when people try to copy his actions from the Medinan Suras instead of the Mekkan ones.
 
I thought that regular praying would lead the soul to the truth. Muslims who pray often obviously want to be with God, so why aren’t they guided to the Church?

I prayed the rosary today, for my Muslim friend to believe in the Church. He’s going to read the Bible after reading the Qu 'ran so I’m hoping that could be the time when he realises the truth. What are your opinions?
Not far from where I live there’s a school called Groves Christian College. It’s named after a missionary called Anthony Groves, who is claimed to be the father of “faith missions” ie. you step out on God’s call and depend on him for support. To be honest, I have to admire the faith of people like this. They really stick their financial necks out. Some of them depend on four or five families back home for their economic support. And if one of them loses their job or business … ?

(WIkipedia Reference) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Norris_Groves

He went to Iraq in 1829. Two years later he lost his wife and a young daughter in Baghdad, as it was a terrible year for everyone. Two years after that he left for a more promising field in India.

I picked up a pamphlett once at the school when I was doing some deliveries. I’ve long ago discarded it, but I think it said he only made one convert from Islam in Iraq in the 4 years he was there. That’s all God gave him for his faith in Iraq, and took away his wife and daughter.

So your question is well founded. I don’t know the answer, but I do think God has left Islam as a challenge to a post-Christian West in the 21st century. He also seems to have engineered history so the Moslems have most of the oil just when the West is becoming super industrialised. I don’t think that was pure coincidence.

The Spirit blows where He will, and unfortunately He’s not very cooperative sometimes, from our point of view.

I don’t know the answer. I think Bishop Fulton Sheen hit upon part of it with his essay “Mary and the Moslems”. I suspect we should be imploring Mary’s help a lot more in this issue. A link to Bishop Sheen’s article follows -

thefreelibrary.com/Mary+and+the+Muslims.-a0154756251
 
Then why do you ask for specific blessings for Muhammad and not for any of the other prophets in your prayers? Why do Muslim men try to emulate him by wearing their beards a certain way? Why is it “best” to fast on Mondays and Thursdays?
I have known a lot of Muslims who think that they have to try to copy Muhammad in every way possible.
by the way in our prayer ( 5 salaht) we ask specific blessings for abraham (pbuh) either

anyway , mohammed (pbuh) is our specific prophet , we are from his nation . every prophet had his nation whom followed him , and we are from the nation of the last prophet mohammed (pbuh) .
we emaluate him because he is our best example for us to worship God , if we have details about practices of other prophets we will like to emaluate them either

'Abdullah Ibn Amr Ibn Al-As narrated: “Allah’s Apostle said to me: 'The most beloved fasting to Allah was the fasting of (the Prophet) David, who used to fast alternate days. And the most beloved prayer to Allah was the prayer of David, who used to sleep for (the first) half of the night and pray for one third of it and (again) sleep for a sixth of it.”
 
every prophet had his nation whom followed him , and we are from the nation of the last prophet mohammed (pbuh) .
If the theory of every nation had a prophet is true, then where are the prophets for current nations !!!
 
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