Why aren't RCIA course cover Catechism of the Catholic Church?

[Light_Seeker]

That is something I have been thinking about, giving some money to the parish for catechetical material - as the area is very poor and some people would have a problem affording it

One of the nicest gifts I received, along with other candidates & sponsors, was a brand new CCC. It wasn’t parish supplied, but a husband & wife that were a candidate & sponsor in the group went out & purchased books for everyone. Not 5 or 6, probably 50 or 60.

Our parish is far from being poor, but the generosity of this couple, concerned not only with their own personal journeys, but others, really touched me.

I could only imagine what a gift such as this which I could not afford, would mean to me.

 

[jc-servant]

One of the nicest gifts I received, along with other candidates & sponsors, was a brand new CCC. It wasn’t parish supplied, but a husband & wife that were a candidate & sponsor in the group went out & purchased books for everyone. Not 5 or 6, probably 50 or 60.

Our parish is far from being poor, but the generosity of this couple, concerned not only with their own personal journeys, but others, really touched me.

I could only imagine what a gift such as this which I could not afford, would mean to me.

Exactly right. How wonderful is it to see God’s love in action!

Our RCIA does have a budget, but it also receives donations of books, rosaries and other things through parishioners. We have a retreat in January for RCIA to give the candidates an intensive time of learning, contemplation and bonding, so people who are able also donate extra to help cover that expense.

I remember my candidate year in RCIA as one of my fondest life experiences and I wish that it was that way for everyone. My RCIA ministry team was my “first family” within the church and if I ever get married I hope that they will be sitting right up front with my biological family. In fact this is the first year that I have not participated actively in the ministry as a sponsor because my mother was diagnosed with cancer shortly after we started the RCIA classes. I was blessed to be able to sing for them at Easter. How wonderful to sing Alleluia for each person as they were baptized into their new life with Christ!

 

[puzzleannie]

great news just got a donor, and a deal from distributor, so I can get a case of the New Adult Catechism for RCIA use. We will still give all candidates for confirmation and RCIA a CCC when they leave as we bought them in case lots a few years ago and still have a bunch in English and Spanish, but the new book (the large red one) is excellent for adult classes. Our Sunday Visitor has published a study guide as well. Along with their revised Making Disciples you have a great RCIA/adult confirmation program for parishes on a budget.

This will do until we can afford the ACM program, which I am not after yet until our RCIA program grows. can’t quite justify until we have more than a couple of catechumens each year. We have a couple of cases of bibles left from the Disciples in Mission project so they will get a bible as well. They will have to pay for the Adult Catechism if they want to keep it (we will suggest it to the sponsors as a gift idea). We also have a ministry that makes rosaries so we can give one to each candidate throughout the program, children, youth and adult.

OSV also has a slim green paperback which links each Sunday’s readings to CCC topics, great if you are following a lectionary based schedule for your catechetical portion as well.

 

[jack_hawkins]

The only thing we got free on our RCIA programme was a mission rosary, although Anita kept on buying prayer cards etc for people out of her Old Age Pension bless her! I got her a nice Easter Egg…
I’m not sure if payment for the books was optional or not, I must find out

 

[lak611]

RCIA doesn’t have to cover everything tho, as there should be continuing catechesis after reception for at least the first year

Even CCD or Catholic school does not cover everything. As Catholics, we should always try to learn more about our faith, whether we are cradle Catholics or adults received into the Church. Many people who are cradle Catholics make the mistake of thinking Confirmation = graduation and do not study more. I don’t think I will ever be able to learn all there is to learn, but I will not ever stop learning either.

 

[Light_Seeker]

Even CCD or Catholic school does not cover everything. As Catholics, we should always try to learn more about our faith, whether we are cradle Catholics or adults received into the Church. Many people who are cradle Catholics make the mistake of thinking Confirmation = graduation and do not study more. I don’t think I will ever be able to learn all there is to learn, but I will not ever stop learning either.

Absolutely!

I view Confirmation as just the start of my journey … the more I learn, the more I realize I need to learn.

With so much to know, Catholics should be retested every 7 years like a drivers license

 

[lak611]

Absolutely!

I view Confirmation as just the start of my journey … the more I learn, the more I realize I need to learn.

With so much to know, Catholics should be retested every 7 years like a drivers license

Is a written test required every 7 years in Texas? In Ohio, the written drivers’ test is only required for the first license or to reinstate a suspended license.

 

[Light_Seeker]

Is a written test required every 7 years in Texas? In Ohio, the written drivers’ test is only required for the first license or to reinstate a suspended license.

Unfortunately not, just proof of insurance, but i believe other states do.

now that i think of it, I don’t even remember about insurance. Hey, I’m getting old.

Good thing I’m not tested every 7 years. :doh2:

Now to get kind of back on topic… One thing I’ve been doing for ‘self-education’ is re-reading the Bible (its been many years reading cover to cover), then using the Cross Reference in the CCC to see how its applied. And lurking on these forums, & occasionally like now, posting. I’ve also got hooked on downloading the radio shows to a mp3 player & listening during drive time instead of the numbing top20 they always play on the radio. Unfortunately there are no Catholic radio stations where I live. I’ve also signed up for helping with the next RCIA, in a way for a very selfish motive - because I can always learn so much more from the amazing RCIA classes my parish has.

All in all, RCIA was kindling. Now its a firestorm

 

[lak611]

Unfortunately not, just proof of insurance, but i believe other states do.

now that i think of it, I don’t even remember about insurance. Hey, I’m getting old.

Good thing I’m not tested every 7 years. :doh2:

The strange thing in Ohio is that they make you sign that you have insurance when you get your license, but they don’t ask to see the proof. The only time proof of insurance needs to be shown is when a police officer asks to see it if he pulls you over. I think the proof should be required BEFORE the license is given or renewed.

Now to get kind of back on topic… One thing I’ve been doing for ‘self-education’ is re-reading the Bible (its been many years reading cover to cover), then using the Cross Reference in the CCC to see how its applied.

That’s great! I do the same thing.

 

[Light_Seeker]

The strange thing in Ohio is that they make you sign that you have insurance when you get your license, but they don’t ask to see the proof.

In tex you need to show proof for your dl, & your annual tax and inspection stickers. & when I bought a new car a few months ago, the dealers photocopied my insurance card before they would let me test drive. I think its good, theres way too many drivers around without insurance (got hit by one several years ago). But in reality, anybody with photoshop & a printer can make one that looks just as good as mine, so the way their handling insurance proof imho needs to be rethought, maybe having a standard DL card which would be hard to copy.

 

[puzzleannie]

Is a written test required every 7 years in Texas? In Ohio, the written drivers’ test is only required for the first license or to reinstate a suspended license.

if any driver here has passed a driving test in Texas or any other state I would be very surprised. The only test I know of is the maneuverability test: can you create your own freeway exit when traffic or weather demands it, and can you execute a left turn from the right lane.

knowledge of the faith is like knowledge of civics, those trying to become Catholics, like those seeking to become naturalized citizens, are held to a higher standard. the ones who ought to be tested are us the teachers.

 

[lak611]

knowledge of the faith is like knowledge of civics, those trying to become Catholics, like those seeking to become naturalized citizens, are held to a higher standard. the ones who ought to be tested are us the teachers.

What you have said is so very true. I often wonder how many of us who are US citizens by birth would pass the test that immigrants take to become citizens. Similarly, I wonder if many cradle Catholics know as much as Catholics who enter the Church through RCIA. Yes, teachers should be held to a higher standard, but all of us who are Catholics need to study our faith during our entire lives. Even if we are not RCIA teachers, we still need to know our faith, not just for our own purpose but because we witness to all kinds of people, Catholic and non-Catholic every time we interact with them every day.