Why aren't women allowed to be priests?

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I vote to put this topic on the banned topics list…I’m sick of seeing it every other day. Fact of the matter is this, there will never be women priests in the Roman Catholic Church. Geez.
 
clmowry said:
I think a key issue is that many folks, Catholic and non-Catholic alike, seem to operate under the belief that the Pope can just teach any old thing he likes.

The Pope is in fact probably the most limited Church leader on the planet in terms of what he can put forth for belief by the members of “his” Church.

Your local non-denominational pastor can put forth just about anything he can dream up and if the congregation accepts it…walla…it’s the truth.

The Pope is limited by tradition, the rest of the bishops, the universal Church and most importantly, the Holy Spirit to teaching ONLY that which God has chosen to reveal to His Church.

So until Christ returns and says “Hey, I wanted women to be priests” there will not be a female priesthood in the Catholic Church.

Chuck
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Just in case you forgot or perhaps missed this … the next time Jesus shows up,… female priests will not be high on the list of “things to do” .
 
1believer1 said:
Just in case you forgot or perhaps missed this … the next time Jesus shows up,… female priests will not be high on the list of “things to do” .
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I don’t imagine it’ll be high on anyones list at that point.

Chuck
 
bibleguy180 said:
Why not? I just don’t seem to get it. I’ve never had it explained in a way that makes sense to me. Especially with the way the Church honors Mary and stuff. Any help? :confused:
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If you are a child of God, then you are a royal priest for their are no other priests in the New Covenant other than the great High Priest Jesus the Christ. - End of story unless one wants to debate the merits of Scripture and the writer of Hebrews and the Author of Scripture.
 
edwest2 said:
Modernism is still around. That’s why this gets brought up so often. And why just opinions? I’m sure there have been other, published Catholic articles about this.

The answer will remain the same.

God bless,
Ed
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Huh? What does modernism have to do with whether infallible teachings have completeness?
 
minkymurph said:
There are many here who would not dispute that but come on, we are allowed to ask why. You can’t be advocating we blindly obey in the absence of reason and knowledge?
Are people not entitled to ask why the Church has no authority to ordain women and expect an intelligent, coherent answer?
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'zactly.

We are commanded to Love the Lord our God with our entire heart, soul, strength and MIND.

Discussing the ordination of women, the Immaculate Conception, the Trinity is loving God with our MIND.
 
Well, I don’t know about anyone else, but after reading ten pages of these comments, I’m pretty crazy about Vince.

I think I’ll copy and past this whole thread, lock it up in a vault somewhere to be opened in 300 years by a woman priest.

xoxoxox
 
minkymurph said:
You may have a point. To be honest, I don’t know much about the deaconate. We don’t have any deacons in my part of the world. I know in other parts they do have deacons. This is an area which is very new to me, and people in my part of the world.

The question I would ask, does one have to be ordained in order to be a deacon?
Now nobody jump on me, I’m on a topic here I know very little about.

It is not necessary to be ordained to baptise. I’ve heard it said deacons can preside at a funeral or marriage. I suppose yes, women could preside at a funeral or marriage. Ministers of the Eucharist, Readers at the Mass, and those who offer the prayers of the faithful don’t need to be ordained. If you don’t hear confessions you don’t need to be ordained.

The Sacrament of the Sick I suppose is the hard one. As far as I know, deacons can offer the Sacrament of the Sick, which is why they need to be ordained? This is where I would see the difficulty. I would guess you would have to be ordained to confer a sacrament. You can’t really be ordained to confer one sacrament, can you? Not without changing our understanding of sacraments. If deacons cannot offer the Sacrament of the Sick, then I’m asking myself why they need to be ordained. However, baptism is a sacrament and anyone can baptise.

I think I’ve just backed myself into a corner with my own arguements. :frighten:
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Yes, to be a deacon in the Catholic Church, one has to be ordained.
 
PRmerger said:
No,* I’m *sorry. I have no idea what your question above says. :confused:
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You don’t understand…you don’t care to provide an example as requested…etc.

Please, restate your real question? Thank you.
 
edwest2 said:
No they’re not. Infallible means infallible.

God bless,
Ed
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Incorrect, as the Catholic Church teaches.

If you disagree, please provide Catholic Church authoritative (Magisterial) teaching to support your claim.

Thank you.
 
dnar said:
I vote to put this topic on the banned topics list…I’m sick of seeing it every other day. Fact of the matter is this, there will never be women priests in the Roman Catholic Church. Geez.
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You say this based on…what?
 
minkymurph said:
The Sacrament of the Sick I suppose is the hard one. As far as I know, deacons can offer the Sacrament of the Sick, which is why they need to be ordained? This is where I would see the difficulty. I would guess you would have to be ordained to confer a sacrament. You can’t really be ordained to confer one sacrament, can you? Not without changing our understanding of sacraments. If deacons cannot offer the Sacrament of the Sick, then I’m asking myself why they need to be ordained. However, baptism is a sacrament and anyone can baptise.
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CCC 1516 Only priests (bishops and presbyters) are ministers of the Anointing of the Sick.

It is an interesting question of why deacons need to be ordained since they don’t offer any sacraments which cannot be offered by a lay person in extraordinary circumstances. The reason that I can come up with is one of grace. The deacon receives grace to minister more worthily, especially in his corporal acts of mercy.
 
bibleguy180 said:
Why aren’t women allowed to be priests?
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bibleguy180 said:
Why not? I just don’t seem to get it. I’ve never had it explained in a way that makes sense to me. Especially with the way the Church honors Mary and stuff. Any help? :confused:
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Because women are not called by God to be priests. Neither men nor women have a right to be ordained. They must be called by God. It doesn’t have anything to do with being allowed.
 
clmowry said:
I don’t imagine it’ll be high on anyones list at that point.

Chuck
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I don’t imagine very much we discuss on these forums will be high on anyone’s list at that point. 😃

Old Chinese proverb say, ‘people trip over the molehills in life and climb the mountains.’
 
dnar said:
I vote to put this topic on the banned topics list…I’m sick of seeing it every other day. Fact of the matter is this, there will never be women priests in the Roman Catholic Church. Geez.
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There is no doubt women priests seems to be a popular topic on the forums at the minute.

We have a saying in my part of the world, ‘the crying child gets his mother’s breast.’ There is no doubt, there are people who believe if they cry long enough and hard enough they will get what they want. The problem is, they very often do because no one can listen to their whining anymore.

I had a boss who always complained loudly in restaurants, whether he had something to complain about or not, in order to get something for free and add to his sense of self importance. Trouble is, he always got something for free. I heard recently he was awarded the MBE. Bet he whined for that too.
 
lobster said:
Because women are not called by God to be priests. Neither men nor women have a right to be ordained. They must be called by God. It doesn’t have anything to do with being allowed.
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Precisely stated; because only men that are pastors are suppose to preach behind the pulpit; the priests were done away with at the cross; now we have pastors, (Bishops, Elders or Presbyters), but not Priests. I Timothy and Titus give God’s qualifications and most do not meet the qualification in America especially among Protestant preachers much less others. On Sundays there is more idolatry going on in America behind pulpits on on TV-church than any other day of the week because many or most preachers don’t preach the gospel anymore.
 
PRmerger said:
Huh? What does modernism have to do with whether infallible teachings have completeness?
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The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Once you understand what the Church teaches, you obey it.

Internet forums, and opinions, do not count as the type of study, and discipline, necessary to study truths revealed by the Church.

Completeness is like saying: I know I need to stop at the traffic signal but I need to study the law further to more fully understand the thinking behind it. Obey first. Be obedient. When the Holy Father makes a definitive statement that applies to all the faithful, we are to obey.

God bless,
Ed
 
edwest2 said:
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Once you understand what the Church teaches, you obey it.

Internet forums, and opinions, do not count as the type of study, and discipline, necessary to study truths revealed by the Church.

Completeness is like saying: I know I need to stop at the traffic signal but I need to study the law further to more fully understand the thinking behind it. Obey first. Be obedient. When the Holy Father makes a definitive statement that applies to all the faithful, we are to obey.

God bless,
Ed
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Ah. I see now where your misunderstanding in this thread lies.

We are not saying that infallible teachings may be disobeyed. On the contrary, actually, Ed. On the contrary.
 
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