Why believe in Christianity?

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I don’t usually ask… but it seems that you hold contrasting views… the screen name has its root in “verdant” which basically translates to hope (green: promise of life).

This clearly did not mesh with your offering of the gloomy existence.
Except there’s nothing in the world to suggest such a vision has any basis in rationality or evidence, and I don’t assent to theories purely because I would like them to be true.
Ever heard of near-death experiences?

Check out some info on this:

Father Spitzer, EWTN (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...tn&qpvt=near+death+experiences+ewtn&FORM=VDRE)

Have you considered that no one has came back from the dead to claim that there’s no after life?

Maran atha!

Angel
 
Verdant comes from the Latin as “Viridis”, which was later adopted into French. The root word I am using comes from the Old Norse 🙂 The closest word to that in the old Norse is “ævi”, or “ever”; though it would be used in reference to the living. The Norse had no concept of forever, “ever after” was the present, and “ever after” did indeed have an ending.

I’m aware of the brain chemistry that can formulate and inspire hallucinations when subjects are deprived of oxygen or impaired brain function yes. Have you never found it curious that while Catholics who experience these may see God, or the Virgin Mary it’s something that never seems to happen to Muslims who instead see the Houris or the Zorastrians who see the bridge across the valley of fate?

People see what they are conditioned to see or believe to be. Nobody comes back from the dead to talk about a lack of an afterlife because they really died, unlike someone who was lucky enough to be revived from shutdown prior to major organ failure. 🙂

I appreciate your intentions nonetheless. You say it is gloomy, but I feel far more at peace now then I did as a believer who felt life was a daily tightrope walk above hell.
 
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What I offer has nothing to do with religion.

What the are stating is how a person who is blind from birth is able to describe things he/she could not have due to their inability to see; then there are the various descriptions of what they experienced–out of body experience… hallucinations cannot give a mind the ability to witness the material world.

…as for embracing oblivion as a peace measure… thanks, but no.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
There is no more basis to be Christian than there is to believe that the Hindu god Krishna walked among men and performed miracles recorded by eyewitnesses.

On the contrary, the fact that Jesus existed is attested by four eyewitnesses and existence of the continued existence of the Organization which He started.

Denial of the evidence is not evidence.
 
The true identity of the soul is not something one can gain. Trying to gain it is just another example of the way the personality becomes more deeply entrenched in the trap of attachment. It doesn’t matter how good the thing we are attached to is. It’s still attachment and the soul is the reverse. It is complete freedom because it is infinite just as God is infinite. Like Father like Son. The path to the soul requires penetrating and understanding the enemy of the personality in its entirety including on the individual and collective levels. It takes depth psychology, meditation, silence, stillness to the point where nothing is more important. Not even the instinct for survival. Peace.
 
Read Romans 1. The way it describes human sin by appealing to the heart was way before its time. People suppress the knowledge of God and therefore are given up to the lusts of the flesh. The way Paul talks about this issue is, in my view, proof of the inspiration of Paul’s writings. Moreover, the way he talks about homosexuality is something that is ahead of even modern medicine. It’s not that someone was born that way-- it’s that they were given over to it because they didn’t worship God properly.

But ultimately the best thing to do is to ask the Lord about it. He’ll tell you what the best course of action to take is. You have gifts that are specific to you and God knows how to best utilize them.
 
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I always grew up with the Catholic faith. I had fallen away for a few years, even though I always believed in God. I believe in Christianity because as Jesus said, it is the truth that frees your mind,

The main theme of sacrifice and peace in the Gospel is timeless. Everything in your life will pass. Family, friends, material possessions, money, status, even your own health. When it’s all said and done, there are only 2 things you can take with you before you stand before almighty God. The gift of faith you were given, and the soul where that faith dwells.

The Catholic faith that many of us rely as the arc of salvation will never fail you, so long as you stay true. Even if you lose your way as I did, with a repentant heart, our good and loving God is merciful.

There’s no better feeling in life than knowing there’s always something better, that there’s hope and peace that even death cannot take away. It allows you to live the here and now with great joy and patience, and not ever feel the dread and fear of ageing and death as others who don’t have faith must have to contend with constantly.

Surround yourselves around people who truly love God where you can truly see their joy by the faith they practice. This is the only way you’ll really know for yourself these things i’ve mentioned.

Keep the faith, God bless. and by all means, share the faith to those you know that don’t have it.
 
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Where’s the atheist fly spray? Shakes the tin. All out.

Grabs the holy water.
 
What I offer has nothing to do with religion.
It has to do with the supernatural, which though not as regimented or formal as religion tends to propose similar propositions: There are other planes of existence, there are parts of us that survive death, there are magical beings beyond our senses that manipulate time/fate/the universe or whatnot.
What the are stating is how a person who is blind from birth is able to describe things he/she could not have due to their inability to see; then there are the various descriptions of what they experienced–out of body experience… hallucinations cannot give a mind the ability to witness the material world.
I do not know the specific case you are referring to here, though I do know of ones that sound similar such as people who have “died” on the operating table and been able to talk about what the people around them were doing.

For the above that’s not that difficult to explain. When the body begins to shut down, not everything shuts down at the same time. During the French Terror for instance there was a bizarre phenomenon where recently guillotined heads would continue to blink or even attempt to mouth words for nearly a minute afterwards. Now some might be tempted to think think this was a miracle when it happened to priests, but when it happened to prostitutes serving the aristocracy, revelutionary soldiers and Jacobins? Rather less likely, and what they found out was that some bodily functions still continue.

Now if someone can actually still blink and talk for a few moments after being beheaded, it wasn’t any great suprise for doctors to discover people at deaths door who don’t for instance have a heartbeat can remember stimuli at this time.

In the case of the person who is blind at birth I see a serious flaw; if she was blind from birth how can she describe what she “saw”? How does she know what the color brown looks like to identify she saw that? Something smells fishy about that.
…as for embracing oblivion as a peace measure… thanks, but no.
A peace measure? Goodness. Not in the slightest, it brought me gloom at first; truely did make everything I saw seem colder for a time. But then when I compare the alternative, either roasting in hell or becoming one of the elect who will according to the church fathers not mourn the lost, and instead find pleasure in the screams of the damned; I think non-existance is the better fate for all. To be a barbecue or a stepford wife reprogrammed to have no autonomy or self for all eternity? How lucky that is not the case and I can simply just be me for however long I have.
 
Am I supposed to ignite or melt like the Wicked Witch of the West or something?
 
You are asking a Catholic what you should do?

🙏🕊️. Start praying to God for the grace of faith.
 
There’s no better feeling in life than knowing there’s always something better, that there’s hope and peace that even death cannot take away. It allows you to live the here and now with great joy and patience, and not ever feel the dread and fear of ageing and death as others who don’t have faith must have to contend with constantly.
Hi, Catholicos!

…and it is the one place where you can offer to God your joy, worries, success, failure, fear, expectations, suffering and sorrows… to be United to Christ’s!

Maran atha!

Angel
 
Hi!

We are clearly speaking past each other.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
While GOD permits YOU, toy’re personal opinion; it is NO proof that He will tolerate it. WHY?

Because God can accurately be described as "all good things perfected"

As such GOD could not have gifted humanity exclusively with a Mind, intellect, and FREEWILL so that Humanity ALONE Could and therefore SHOULD strive to Know love, Obey and Serve the One true God.

These exclusive Godly Gifts are the explanation for Gen 1:26-27 & John 4:23-24

My friend, if you have evidence of another way humanity attained these Godly attributes; please share it.

Further GOD commits Himself 1Tim 2:3-4 to OFFER sufficient grace that ALL COULD come to know him. Your being om this FORUM is evidence f that fact. BUT grace can be and often is denied

May you actually hear GOD speaking to your heart

Patrck
 
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