Why can't Catholics be Free Masons?

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johnboyfl said:
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What is your source???
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The best known source is Pope Leo XIII’s encyclical Humanum Genus. Here are a few Catholic books I’ve read: Behind the Lodge Door by Paul Fisher, Their God is the Devil by Paul Fisher, Grand Orient Freemasonry Unmasked by Mgr Dillon & Secret Societies and the Kingship of Christ by Fr Denis Fahey.

Freemasonry is responsible for all the revolutions since the French Revolution. They include the French Revolution, the Revolution of 1848 and the Italian Revolution of 1869-70. During the Italian Revolution, the masons took over the Papal States. It’s generally thought that all the wars since then were masonic. The goal of Freemasonry is to destroy all the Christian Kingdoms (they destroyed the Holy Roman Empire) and build an atheist world government.
 
Jabronie said:
Just curious. I’m really even sure what Masons do, but I know Catholics shouldn’t join their club. Could someone clarify? Thanks!
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Catholics can’t be freemasons because, like the DNC, the freemasons teach relativism at the core of their beliefs which is contrary to the Catholic faith.
 
I think it is important to distinguish between what Freemasonry is, and who/what Freemasons are as individuals.

Although the official tenets of Freemasonry are certainly objectionable, the real day to day activities and attitudes of most Freemasons are not quite the same. To the members, it is nothing more than a club or fraternity. They take their membership obligations seriously, but they are really more of a fraternal organization in this day and age.

They do not prohibit Catholics from joining (they may have historically, i don’t know, but I do know at present they welcome men of all faith backgrounds), and although there are a lot of religious undertones and premises to their rituals and ceremonies, the Freemasons do not express a preference or disdain for any particular faith. And, most of the members are Christians of various denominations, whom consider their spiritual life very much independent of (and not even linked in any way connected to) the Masonic order. There are certain individuals within the ranks who are a little over-the-top and tend to subscribe to some sort of “higher truth” contained in Freemasonry, and thus view it as integral to their spiritual life and development, but they are the minority.

The Catholic Church has stated very plainly that the tenets of Freemasonry are at odds with the foundation of Christian Catholic faith, and that because of the diametric opposition, that it is not possible for a man to be a member of the Freemasons and also remain a member in good standing of the Catholic Church.
 
joshua_b said:
I think it is important to distinguish between what Freemasonry is, and who/what Freemasons are as individuals.

Although the official tenets of Freemasonry are certainly objectionable, the real day to day activities and attitudes of most Freemasons are not quite the same. To the members, it is nothing more than a club or fraternity. They take their membership obligations seriously, but they are really more of a fraternal organization in this day and age.

They do not prohibit Catholics from joining (they may have historically, i don’t know, but I do know at present they welcome men of all faith backgrounds), and although there are a lot of religious undertones and premises to their rituals and ceremonies, the Freemasons do not express a preference or disdain for any particular faith. And, most of the members are Christians of various denominations, whom consider their spiritual life very much independent of (and not even linked in any way connected to) the Masonic order. There are certain individuals within the ranks who are a little over-the-top and tend to subscribe to some sort of “higher truth” contained in Freemasonry, and thus view it as integral to their spiritual life and development, but they are the minority.

The Catholic Church has stated very plainly that the tenets of Freemasonry are at odds with the foundation of Christian Catholic faith, and that because of the diametric opposition, that it is not possible for a man to be a member of the Freemasons and also remain a member in good standing of the Catholic Church.
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For me there is no distinction. They are one and the same.
Its like drug cartels. They build schools and give money to the poor but its not out of the goodness of their heart. Its to influence people and get support from them to ignore the evil they do.
The Freemasons are like that. They do good things in order to influence people which is to hide their aim to bring down the Catholic Church.
 
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