Why can't women simply say "I'm not interested." to men?

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As a (now disgraced) US politician used to say, there are two Americas.
Usually I think I can follow your train of thought pretty well (as well as a person can on the Internet), but on this one I’m lost. (I know the reference, just not sure how it applies.) :confused:
 
Usually I think I can follow your train of thought pretty well (as well as a person can on the Internet), but on this one I’m lost. (I know the reference, just not sure how it applies.) :confused:
Sorry!

What I meant is that there’s on the one hand the America where it is perfectly natural for a dad to take care of his own children, and on the other hand, there’s the America where it looks like a superhuman feat.

And sorry for sidetracking the thread!
 
Sorry!

What I meant is that there’s on the one hand the America where it is perfectly natural for a dad to take care of his own children, and on the other hand, there’s the America where it looks like a superhuman feat.

And sorry for sidetracking the thread!
Ah, gotcha. 👍

I think I was trying to make it more complicated than it was. :o

Back to your regularly scheduled programming…
 
Funny!

A more talented person would put together a CAF-friendly parody of Sir Mix-al-ot’s “Baby Got Back” with lyrics such as, “I like nice guys and I cannot lie.”

Possible swoon-worthy material for the song:

–changes diapers!
–takes toddlers to the park!
–cooks muffins!
–helps school kids with homework!
–can stir fry!
:rotfl:
 
Funny!

A more talented person would put together a CAF-friendly parody of Sir Mix-al-ot’s “Baby Got Back” with lyrics such as, “I like nice guys and I cannot lie.”

Possible swoon-worthy material for the song:

–changes diapers!
–takes toddlers to the park!
–cooks muffins!
–helps school kids with homework!
–can stir fry!
I laughed and couldn’t resist taking a stab at it. I am pretty good at this sort of thing so I threw something together really quickly using the (acceptable) lyrics from the song and some of your suggestions. It was a bit tricky writing from the opposite perspective though.

I like nice guys and I cannot lie
You other girls can’t deny
I cannot stop staring
Cause he is always caring
Oh baby, I wanna get with you
Cause I know you’ll always be true

He takes toddlers to the park
he is familar with Noah’s Ark
He always comes home before dark
and my dog never barks

I’m tired of magazines
saying bad boys are the thing
Take the average woman and ask her that
she isn’t going to push back
cause under pressure a nice guy is never gonna crack

Some of you may not like this song
well you are are wrong
you have to be strong
don’t just follow along
take the road less traveled
otherwise your life could become unraveled

He doesn’t drive a 'vette
thats not how we met
he has a nice family sedan
yeah, thats my man
maybe some day a minivan

He always gives his best try
he helps children when the cry
he makes a mean stir fry
he is just that sly

He is such a good cook
it made me knees shook
great muffins
Thanksgiving stuffin
My hun sure knows how to handle those buns
he is in with the nuns
he isn’t much of a sinner
I found a real winner

I like nice guys and I cannot lie
 
I laughed and couldn’t resist taking a stab at it. I am pretty good at this sort of thing so I threw something together really quickly using the (acceptable) lyrics from the song and some of your suggestions. It was a bit tricky writing from the opposite perspective though.

I like nice guys and I cannot lie
You other girls can’t deny
I cannot stop staring
Cause he is always caring
Oh baby, I wanna get with you
Cause I know you’ll always be true

He takes toddlers to the park
he is familar with Noah’s Ark
He always comes home before dark
and my dog never barks

I’m tired of magazines
saying bad boys are the thing
Take the average woman and ask her that
she isn’t going to push back
cause under pressure a nice guy is never gonna crack

Some of you may not like this song
well you are are wrong
you have to be strong
don’t just follow along
take the road less traveled
otherwise your life could become unraveled

He doesn’t drive a 'vette
thats not how we met
he has a nice family sedan
yeah, thats my man
maybe some day a minivan

He always gives his best try
he helps children when the cry
he makes a mean stir fry
he is just that sly

He is such a good cook
it made me knees shook
great muffins
Thanksgiving stuffin
My hun sure knows how to handle those buns
he is in with the nuns
he isn’t much of a sinner
I found a real winner

I like nice guys and I cannot lie
You are awesome!
 
I laughed and couldn’t resist taking a stab at it. I am pretty good at this sort of thing so I threw something together really quickly using the (acceptable) lyrics from the song and some of your suggestions. It was a bit tricky writing from the opposite perspective though.

I like nice guys and I cannot lie
You other girls can’t deny
I cannot stop staring
Cause he is always caring
Oh baby, I wanna get with you
Cause I know you’ll always be true

He takes toddlers to the park
he is familar with Noah’s Ark
He always comes home before dark
and my dog never barks

I’m tired of magazines
saying bad boys are the thing
Take the average woman and ask her that
she isn’t going to push back
cause under pressure a nice guy is never gonna crack

Some of you may not like this song
well you are are wrong
you have to be strong
don’t just follow along
take the road less traveled
otherwise your life could become unraveled

He doesn’t drive a 'vette
thats not how we met
he has a nice family sedan
yeah, thats my man
maybe some day a minivan

He always gives his best try
he helps children when the cry
he makes a mean stir fry
he is just that sly

He is such a good cook
it made me knees shook
great muffins
Thanksgiving stuffin
My hun sure knows how to handle those buns
he is in with the nuns
he isn’t much of a sinner
I found a real winner

I like nice guys and I cannot lie
👍
 
I laughed and couldn’t resist taking a stab at it. I am pretty good at this sort of thing so I threw something together really quickly using the (acceptable) lyrics from the song and some of your suggestions. It was a bit tricky writing from the opposite perspective though.

I like nice guys and I cannot lie
You other girls can’t deny
I cannot stop staring
Cause he is always caring
Oh baby, I wanna get with you
Cause I know you’ll always be true

He takes toddlers to the park
he is familar with Noah’s Ark
He always comes home before dark
and my dog never barks

I’m tired of magazines
saying bad boys are the thing
Take the average woman and ask her that
she isn’t going to push back
cause under pressure a nice guy is never gonna crack

Some of you may not like this song
well you are are wrong
you have to be strong
don’t just follow along
take the road less traveled
otherwise your life could become unraveled

He doesn’t drive a 'vette
thats not how we met
he has a nice family sedan
yeah, thats my man
maybe some day a minivan

He always gives his best try
he helps children when the cry
he makes a mean stir fry
he is just that sly

He is such a good cook
it made me knees shook
great muffins
Thanksgiving stuffin
My hun sure knows how to handle those buns
he is in with the nuns
he isn’t much of a sinner
I found a real winner

I like nice guys and I cannot lie
I think we have today’s Internet winner!
 
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Jay82:
I laughed and couldn’t resist taking a stab at it. I am pretty good at this sort of thing so I threw something together really quickly using the (acceptable) lyrics from the song and some of your suggestions. It was a bit tricky writing from the opposite perspective though.
Nice!
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Groo:
No, he will do just fine. I have all the confidence in the world in Cali.
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Xantippe:
Yeah.

I feel like in a big city like he’s in, he’s right at the age where people make decisions fairly rapidly about marriage and family.
Thank you for your confidence!
 
Hey!
There are two possibilities about what is going on. 1. She is not interested in you, and you are in the friend zone. 2. She is not interested in you and some part of her psychological makeup is getting pleasure from having you pursue her. Either way, move on. You need to brush up on human mating dynamics a bit. Check into the Pick-up artist movement. There are many resources on line. DO NOT degrade yourself by using the techniques, but learn what they have to say about how we interact in the dating game. Women today, even Catholic women, are running a belief system about men that is hurting them. They consistently overlook good men because of these beliefs. They end up being hurt in the long run, while you my friend sit on the sidelines. Personally I have been praying to Saint Jude because I really believe that dating, marriage, and most especially love, are hopeless.
 
hands Jay a gift-wrapped package

You, sir, have won the internets for today. Please treat them well.
 
Hey!
There are two possibilities about what is going on. 1. She is not interested in you, and you are in the friend zone. 2. She is not interested in you and some part of her psychological makeup is getting pleasure from having you pursue her. Either way, move on. You need to brush up on human mating dynamics a bit. Check into the Pick-up artist movement. There are many resources on line. DO NOT degrade yourself by using the techniques, but learn what they have to say about how we interact in the dating game. Women today, even Catholic women, are running a belief system about men that is hurting them. They consistently overlook good men because of these beliefs. They end up being hurt in the long run, while you my friend sit on the sidelines. Personally I have been praying to Saint Jude because I really believe that dating, marriage, and most especially love, are hopeless.
Thanks man, I used to be reading that PUA stuff, I agree with a lot of the observations, but they mostly try to explain the sorry state of marriage and the interaction of the sexes in terms of evolutionary psychology, but IMO this is the pseudo-science of our time, and I now believe the fact that the western world is in a silent apostasy from Christianity, as Pope St. John Paul II said, is the reason why the sexes are getting along worse than ever.

Of course the evolutionary psychology clap trap is a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts, people start to believe that reality and social interaction is well-described in terms of a survival of the fittest, so they act like it. Ideas have consequences.

But the fact that the non-western world (as the PUA types will readily admit) still has healthy relationships shows that a society which hasn’t apostasized from religion and adopted western consumerism and survival of the fittest as their worldview can exist, and that it just boils down to your worldview.
 
Oh no, people said hi to her. Such harassment :rolleyes:

Lol @ the pravda on the potomac. You’d get the same thing if you had a dude walking around with his shirt off. But nobody would call that “harassment”, we’d be supposed to think it was compliments…that is if it ever made it into the media, which it wouldn’t.

If you don’t want these kinds of reactions, don’t walk around bad neighborhood dressed “like that”. This is just sound advice, but some people think it’s a part of “patriarchal rape culture” and will start a new walk over it…
 
Oh no, people said hi to her. Such harassment :rolleyes:

Lol @ the pravda on the potomac. You’d get the same thing if you had a dude walking around with his shirt off. But nobody would call that “harassment”, we’d be supposed to think it was compliments…that is if it ever made it into the media, which it wouldn’t.

If you don’t want these kinds of reactions, don’t walk around bad neighborhood dressed “like that”. This is just sound advice, but some people think it’s a part of “patriarchal rape culture” and will start a new walk over it…
She has a passable figure and she’s wearing a black t-shirt and dark skinny jeans, form-fitting, but not ridiculously so. That’s not the equivalent of a guy walking around shirtless all day. (And I don’t think even then he’d get that kind of response, unless he was in prison.)

I’m pretty sure that her pretty face and nice figure are doing 85% of the work here. What could she be wearing that would get less notice, short of a burka?

That’s also not a bad neighborhood, as far as I can tell. (In a BAD neighborhood, there’s almost nobody on the street, there are bars on all shop windows, boarded up, burned out houses, etc.) It’s just the big city.

If you watch long enough, you’ll see that one guy followed her for five minutes with no response from her.

There’s already been some discussion on Dark Light’s thread (I think) where people were mentioning the fact that if anything, more traditionally modest dress inflames perverts.
 
Oh no, people said hi to her. Such harassment :rolleyes:

Lol @ the pravda on the potomac. You’d get the same thing if you had a dude walking around with his shirt off. But nobody would call that “harassment”, we’d be supposed to think it was compliments…that is if it ever made it into the media, which it wouldn’t.

If you don’t want these kinds of reactions, don’t walk around bad neighborhood dressed “like that”. This is just sound advice, but some people think it’s a part of “patriarchal rape culture” and will start a new walk over it…
Jeans and a t-shirt? Sure she’s a very pretty woman, but it doesn’t look like she’s dressed any differently than many other women, or in any way that would be considered immodest.

And yes, it’s been mentioned before there are men who are even more interested in harassing a modestly dressed woman. I’ve also noticed that a lot of men tend to confuse what they notice with what women are dressing to show off. It’s pretty hard for those of us who are better-endowed to dress in a way that some guy won’t interpret as “showing off,” and frequently higher necklines actually make the problem worse.

As far as bad neighborhoods go, it might also be worth mentioning that there’s a significant financial aspect. Some of us have lived and worked in neighborhoods that wouldn’t be considered the best - not terrible ones but still.
 


And yes, it’s been mentioned before there are men who are even more interested in harassing a modestly dressed woman. **I’ve also noticed that a lot of men tend to confuse what they notice with what women are dressing to show off. ** It’s pretty hard for those of us who are better-endowed to dress in a way that some guy won’t interpret as “showing off,” and frequently higher necklines actually make the problem worse…
YEP. Total agreement.

If one is an attractive lady, no matter how or in what you dress, you will get unwanted unwarranted or negative attention. Both sexes even.

Also, just adding the higher necklines make a busty woman look even more bustier. It calls attention to your size more-so. The only other option is to wear over sized shirts, which does not look very nice at all, not to mention causes problems with movement.
 
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