Why contraception is wrong.

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“For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. This mystery is a profound one, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church” (Eph 5:31-32)

The sexual union between a man and a woman refers to the union of Christ and his church. Can we imagine Christ putting a block like a contraceptive between his union with himself and the church? Absolutely not. But many Christians insult this mystery of sex which refers to Christ and the Church by putting a block between the union of the spouses. They therefore make a complete mockery of the union of Christ and his church which is symbolized in the sexual union of spouses.

I am glad that the Catholic church respects the mystery of sex which refers to the union of Christ and his church. Any thoughts?
 
“For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. This mystery is a profound one, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church” (Eph 5:31-32)

The sexual union between a man and a woman refers to the union of Christ and his church. Can we imagine Christ putting a block like a contraceptive between his union with himself and the church? Absolutely not. But many Christians insult this mystery of sex which refers to Christ and the Church by putting a block between the union of the spouses. They therefore make a complete mockery of the union of Christ and his church which is symbolized in the sexual union of spouses.

I am glad that the Catholic church respects the mystery of sex which refers to the union of Christ and his church. Any thoughts?
I defend the Church’s position on contraception. It is the most reasonable, it is human, it gives much pleasure to each couple and it gives … babies.
Sex is to have babies. Not all sexual acts are directed to having babies but sex is to have babies.
Of course, if you cannot have more babies, you can have sex nevertheless. The abstinence period gives you more energy to get you and more “appetite” for descovering" your partner’s body and soul.
Pills take the desire out of women, condoms out of men, the others are worse.
Nevertheless, I do not blame those who have trouble following the Church’s teachings. It is not easy as it requires a balanced couple and balance is something you hardly find in today’s trouble times. when the person is out of balance, his sex life is out of balance too.
So, I do not through stones at them as I have got my glass roof too. Id people cannot keep marriages and 50% end in divorce, I think it is difficult for them to keep their sexual lives on track. Their reasoning and talk has only one purpose, as it would say Freud: to justify their own actions. If they change behavior, they change ideology.
So, I pray for them, as it hurts me divorce and wrong behavior.
 
I didn’t think the Church objected to contraception, just artifical forms of it?
 
I didn’t think the Church objected to contraception, just artifical forms of it?
The Church objects to all forms of contraception, because as the name implies it is against conception. The Church is not against ,however, abstaining during the fertile part of the ovulation cycle as that act does not interfere with the natural course of fertilization.
 
I’m on birth control for health reasons. I’m unmarried and not sexually active.

From my perspective, I’m not sure I ever want to get married. Seems I have 5 options in life.

  1. *]Take birth control and feel sick until menopause.
    *]Hysterectomy.
    *]Have children that I don’t feel I’m mentally stable enough to raise.
    *]Have an abstinent marriage and risk having more body issues that can come from not having kids. (yeah, like any guy is going to let me say no in this day and age)
    *]Never get married and risk body issues that come from not having kids.

    I can see why some women are so passionately for birth control. Men have it easy. They don’t have to be the bakers. They just have to add the ingredients. Bah! 😦

    With destruction of the family and women’s lib, women don’t even need men to be the bakers or the breadwinners anymore. Just go to a sperm bank and act like Murphy Brown.

    So sick of this planet.
 
It’s not compulsory to have body issues due to none child-bearing. If you are that way inclined I would respectfully suggest you need to deal with that as a priority.

There are many women who do not have children, for any number of reasons, and not all out of choice. But they remain women, and children of God. it’s inappropriate to distain the body that God has given you.

Forgive my bluntness - but a little less self, and a bit more empathy, and you may realise that true men also suffer for their children - ask any man whose ex has used the children to spite him!
 
wow, using our bodies for what God intended, not what we want… what a concept.

I was on birth control for 14 years-- not my choice, my mom had me go on it when the doctor said my periods were irregular and prescribed it to me. I learned a decade later that it’s normal to have irregular periods at age 14. And of course, I had no kids, I was on birth control, and I had no idea of what saving yourself for marriage meant. As long as I told the guy I was “on the pill,” it was very easy for me to get a boyfriend. So I never had to worry about anything, or so I thought…

It later caught up with me when I realized I might not have made the best decisions choosing a parter because of birth control’s role in my life. With birth control, you feel “free” to make decisions that common sense may otherwise bar you from.

I am now off the pill and I never intend on going back. I must now use my brain.
Also, my periods are still a bit irregular. TMI.

A spiritual person once told me that the family structure is breaking down. That is one of our greatest spiritual threats in today’s world. I think our carefree use of birth control is one way that we inhibit the fragility and sanctity of the family structure. It sure did me in.
 
“For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. This mystery is a profound one, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church” (Eph 5:31-32)

The sexual union between a man and a woman refers to the union of Christ and his church. Can we imagine Christ putting a block like a contraceptive between his union with himself and the church? Absolutely not. But many Christians insult this mystery of sex which refers to Christ and the Church by putting a block between the union of the spouses. They therefore make a complete mockery of the union of Christ and his church which is symbolized in the sexual union of spouses.

I am glad that the Catholic church respects the mystery of sex which refers to the union of Christ and his church. Any thoughts?
👍👍👍👍
 
It was once societal common sense that marriage, sex and babies were an intertwined whole. Since the 1960’s, we’ve been pretending that they are three separate topics and making fools of ourselves ever since.
 
I’m on birth control for health reasons. I’m unmarried and not sexually active.

From my perspective, I’m not sure I ever want to get married. Seems I have 5 options in life.

  1. *]Take birth control and feel sick until menopause.
    *]Hysterectomy.
    *]Have children that I don’t feel I’m mentally stable enough to raise.
    *]Have an abstinent marriage and risk having more body issues that can come from not having kids. (yeah, like any guy is going to let me say no in this day and age)
    *]Never get married and risk body issues that come from not having kids.

    I can see why some women are so passionately for birth control. Men have it easy. They don’t have to be the bakers. They just have to add the ingredients. Bah! 😦

    With destruction of the family and women’s lib, women don’t even need men to be the bakers or the breadwinners anymore. Just go to a sperm bank and act like Murphy Brown.

    So sick of this planet.

  1. I’m pretty sure the Church allows for the use of artificial birth control for medical reasons, so long as there’s no risk of interfering with God’s plan for our sexuality. This doesn’t necessarily mean it’s always the best treatment, however. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong though!

    May God bless you through your struggles with health.
 
I’m on birth control for health reasons. I’m unmarried and not sexually active.

From my perspective, I’m not sure I ever want to get married. Seems I have 5 options in life.

  1. *]Take birth control and feel sick until menopause.
    *]Hysterectomy.
    *]Have children that I don’t feel I’m mentally stable enough to raise.
    *]Have an abstinent marriage and risk having more body issues that can come from not having kids. (yeah, like any guy is going to let me say no in this day and age)
    *]Never get married and risk body issues that come from not having kids.

    I can see why some women are so passionately for birth control. Men have it easy. They don’t have to be the bakers. They just have to add the ingredients. Bah! 😦

    With destruction of the family and women’s lib, women don’t even need men to be the bakers or the breadwinners anymore. Just go to a sperm bank and act like Murphy Brown.

    So sick of this planet.

  1. Lady, raise your spirits, please do not look at the dark side of the planet…
    What you said is right.

    You know the song, but I will dedicate it to you. click please

    the think is that the lyrics were inspired in the Bible, words of the King Salomon, they say…
 
I’m pretty sure the Church allows for the use of artificial birth control for medical reasons, so long as there’s no risk of interfering with God’s plan for our sexuality. This doesn’t necessarily mean it’s always the best treatment, however. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong though!

May God bless you through your struggles with health.
Woah, I had no idea it was allowed for any reason. I thought the Church’s stance was the same on bc as on abortion? Can anyone clarify this? :confused:
 
It was once societal common sense that marriage, sex and babies were an intertwined whole. Since the 1960’s, we’ve been pretending that they are three separate topics and making fools of ourselves ever since.
👍👍

unfortunately, foolishness is the very core of human nature.😃
 
It was once societal common sense that marriage, sex and babies were an intertwined whole. Since the 1960’s, we’ve been pretending that they are three separate topics and making fools of ourselves ever since.
It actaully started in 1930 when the teaching of non-Catholic religions changed relative to artificial contraception.

Artificial contraception was surely available before 1930 and the US government even gave condoms to soldiers. But one cannot find evidence anywhere that any non-Catholic Christian Church taught that artificial contraception was anything other than a grave sin. Not a single document can be produced from any major Protestant denomination prior to 1930 which teaches that artificial contraception is in any way permissible. In 1930, the Anglican Church began teaching that artificial contraception was permissible - not a sin - in certain limited circumstances. Ten years later, every major Protestant denomination reversed their teaching to some extent and taught that artificial contraception was not always a sin.

One generation later, in the early 1950’s, artificial contraception became acceptable and widely available over the counter. One generation after that, in the early 1970’s, butchering of unborn children became legal in the USA.

Artificial contraception has created a culture of recreational sex. And the society which values recreational sex as a right, necissarily demands unlimited access to abortion. Counterintuitive as it is, artificial contraception is the root cause of abortion. Those who call themselves Catholic but ought to know better, and those in non-Catholic Churches who council their members to us artificial contraception, “Prayerfully considered” or otherwise, bear the brunt of the blame.

***In continuity with past Christian teaching, we recognize tragic conflicts of life with life that may justify abortion, and in such cases we support the legal option of abortion under proper medical procedures. ***

That is from the United Methodist Church’s official position on abortion at archives.umc.org/interior.asp?mid=1732. I have no clue what continuity they are talking about. Most of the other denominations are no better.

It’s a travesty.

-Tim-
 
Besides the reasons given by others as to why contraception is wrong, there is also that they are not healthy and many contraceptives are also abortifacients. This means they cause abortions before implanting. If you believe life begins at conception, then you should not use contraception.
 
Woah, I had no idea it was allowed for any reason. I thought the Church’s stance was the same on bc as on abortion? Can anyone clarify this? :confused:
The Catholic Church allows the use of the contraceptive pill for therapeutic reasons - for instance, if a woman has extremely painful periods - but not if the real reason is to render her less likely to conceive. So in other words, there is no problem whatsoever in an umarried girl taking the Pill. For a married woman, there is the very slight possibility of a conception, and that conception being lost because of the action of the Pill. It is not agreed among medical people how often this happens, if at all.

See the encyclical ‘Humanae Vitae’.
 
“For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. This mystery is a profound one, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church” (Eph 5:31-32)

The sexual union between a man and a woman refers to the union of Christ and his church. Can we imagine Christ putting a block like a contraceptive between his union with himself and the church? Absolutely not. But many Christians insult this mystery of sex which refers to Christ and the Church by putting a block between the union of the spouses. They therefore make a complete mockery of the union of Christ and his church which is symbolized in the sexual union of spouses.

I am glad that the Catholic church respects the mystery of sex which refers to the union of Christ and his church. Any thoughts?
There’s more to marriage than the sexual union of the partners. If that were so important and the singular meaning of Paul’s letter, then why is it that the novelty of sex soon wears of for married couples and they settle down to the far more hundrum, and difficult, problem of living together?

I’m for birth control, including artificial contraceptive, and I’ll go further. I think the contraceptive pill was God’s idea, given at the very time that population pressures were becoming a real problem in some parts of the world. It was largely developed through Catholic researchers, and came within a hair’s breath of being acceptable for married Catholics, as recommended by a committee set up by Pope Paul VI himself.

But he couldn’t bring himself to ratify the committee’s decision, even though Pope John XXIII had set it up, and he himself increased the panel from six to seventy two.

From Wikipedia -
Establishment by John XXIII - With the appearance of the first oral contraceptives in 1960, dissenters in the Church argued for a reconsideration of the Church positions. In 1963 Pope John XXIII established a commission of six European non-theologians to study questions of birth control and population.[1][2]
[edit] Role of Paul VIAfter John’s death in 1963, Pope Paul VI added theologians to the commission and over three years expanded it to 72 members from five continents (including 16 theologians, 13 physicians and five women without medical credentials, with an executive committee of 16 bishops, including seven cardinals.)[1][2]
[edit] Majority report - The commission produced a report in 1966, proposing that artificial birth control was not intrinsically evil and that Catholic couples should be allowed to decide for themselves about the methods to be employed.[1][2][3][4] According to the majority report, use of contraceptives should be regarded as an extension of the already accepted cycle method:
The acceptance of a lawful application of the calculated sterile periods of the woman–that the application is legitimate presupposes right motives–makes a separation between the sexual act which is explicitly intended and its reproductive effect which is intentionally excluded. The tradition has always rejected seeking this separation with a contraceptive intention for motives spoiled by egoism and hedonism, and such seeking can never be admitted. The true opposition is not to be sought between some material conformity to the physiological processes of nature and some artificial intervention. For it is natural to man to use his skill in order to put under human control what is given by physical nature. The opposition is really to be sought between one way of acting which is contraceptive and opposed to a prudent and generous fruitfulness, and another way which is, in an ordered relationship to responsible fruitfulness and which has a concern for education and all the essential, human and Christian values."
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But he caved in to the Minority report signed by one four of the original submission, and the fact that there was a small number of dissenters on the original commission.

Why bother having a commission if you’re going to do that?

The rationale for issuing the minority report was spelled out:

<I’ve snipped this as the post is limited to 6000 characters. Interested parties can read it on Widipedia by doing a search on -

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontifical_Commission_on_Birth_Control >

[edit] Papal decisionHowever, Paul VI explicitly rejected his commission’s recommendations in the text of Humanae Vitae, noting the 72 member commission had not been unanimous (4 theologian priests had dissented, and 1 cardinal and 2 bishops had voted that contraception was intrinsically evil–significantly Cardinal Ottaviani, the commission’s president and Bishop Colombo, the papal theologian).[1][2][4] Humanae Vitae did, however, explicitly allow the modern forms of natural family planning that were then being developed"

For a graph showing the population growth in historical terms, click on the following. You will notice the almost vertical trend at the moment, which is why I believe the Pill was God’s idea given at the very time population pressures were becoming a real problem.

I might add that despite all the talk about a “contraceptive mentality”, the world’s population has doubled since the Pill arrived, from 3 billion to 6 billion, and in fact I think it’s now close to 7 billion.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Population_curve.svg

Of if you like, I’ll listen to arguments against the contraceptive pill if they’re accompanied with intelligent suggestions on how to feed, house, clothe, educate, provide infrastructure for etc. the billions on their way, if artificial contraception is taken out of the picture.
 
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