Why contraception?

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Every time I go onto the forums I see arguments on whether contraception is morally acceptable or not.

I cant help but wonder that instead of using contraception, why don’t we just take responsibility for our actions.

I mean sex is only a means to reproduce. Its not a means for pleasure, or whatever people think its for. Its to reproduce, and I am pretty sure that people can agree with me on both the religious and secular proof of that.

I hope this made sense, but its something that has been on my mind for a while now.
 
Meathead said:
I mean sex is only a means to reproduce. Its not a means for pleasure, or whatever people think its for. Its to reproduce, and I am pretty sure that people can agree with me on both the religious and secular proof of that.
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That is not quite the Catholic understanding. Sex is both a means of reproduction and a source of pleasure/bonding between the husband and wife.

That’s why all sex must be both procreative (open to life) and uniative.

God Bless
 
mercygate said:
  1. Are you a mammal?
  2. If so, what gave you the idea that pleasure is not part of sex?
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Yes I am a mammal.

I am not saying that pleasure is not a part of sex, I am saying that sex should be viewed as a means of reproduction, not something to be done for pleasure.

Obviously sex is pleasurable, because if it wasn’t than people would not want to have it.
 
Meathead said:
I am not saying that pleasure is not a part of sex, I am saying that sex should be viewed as a means of reproduction, not something to be done for pleasure.

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And your basing this view on what?
 
wifeandmomoftwo said:
And your basing this view on what?
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Im really basing my view on the fact that far too many people think sex is just a way to feel good. Honestly if people started viewing sex for what it really was I don’t think we would have the problems we have now with abortion, contraception, etc.

Really, sex isn’t magical, it’s just a way to have a child and ensure the survival of the species. I believe that most people need to stop acting so immature about sex (Believers, and non-believers are equally guilty of this) and just see it for what it is.

That make any sense?
 
Actually here is that answer simplified:

DON’T HAVE SEX FOR SEXE’S SAKE. TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY IN YOUR LIFE AND ACT LIKE AN ADULT.
 
Meathead said:
Actually here is that answer simplified:

DON’T HAVE SEX FOR SEXE’S SAKE. TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY IN YOUR LIFE AND ACT LIKE AN ADULT.
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OK. But your OP expressed this in a way that made it look as if you thought the pleasure is incidental. What you are advocating is that people act in accord with the dignity of the human person.

No argument on that one. The Church has sometmes been a lone voice in proclaiming the essential of the unitive and procreative aspects of the marital act. You’re in good company.
 
Thank you very much. I was hoping that last post got my message across.
 
Meathead said:
Actually here is that answer simplified:

DON’T HAVE SEX FOR SEXE’S SAKE. TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY IN YOUR LIFE AND ACT LIKE AN ADULT.
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I’m not sure why you assume that anyone who is using some means to prevent pregnancy at a particular time is “not acting like an adult” or “acting immature about sex”.

Even Catholic doctrine allows that it is acceptable for married people to have sex while taking measures to do their best not to have a child as a result of that particular act at that particular time. It’s called NFP, which can be used either to enhance the likelihood that a particular sexual encounter will result or will not result in pregnancy. NFP is as effective as a birth control pill in avoiding pregnancy if used correctly, according to the following study
medicalnewstoday.com/articles/63567.php.

I really don’t see how one can logically claim that a couple who is intentionally and deliberately timing their acts of intercourse to only those times least likely to result in a pregnancy and deliberately and intentionally abstaining from intercourse on the times likely to result in pregnancy is not “having sex for sex’s sake” rather than for the purpose of having a child.

As far as secular proof, humans are unusual among mammals in that we are both capable of and interested in sex at times when the female is not fertile, therefore there is more than simply a biological imperative to maximize reproduction.
 
Let me put it this way, two of the greatest mistakes you can make in life are having sex with the wrong person (that is, someone to whom you are not married) and not having enough sex with the right person – your husband or wife. It is impossible to overestimate the unitive aspect of sex, bringing husband and wife together in a lifelong bond.

And note that we humans are not like most other mammals. Dogs, cats, horses, cows, chimpanzees all come “on heat” or “in season.” Females are receptive only during their fertile periods. Humans, however can have sex at any time – and one reason for this is the long dependency of human children. The bonds between man and wife must last for many years, so the children will be properly raised and cared for by two parents.
 
vern_humphrey said:
Let me put it this way, two of the greatest mistakes you can make in life are having sex with the wrong person (that is, someone to whom you are not married) and not having enough sex with the right person – your husband or wife. It is impossible to overestimate the unitive aspect of sex, bringing husband and wife together in a lifelong bond.

And note that we humans are not like most other mammals. Dogs, cats, horses, cows, chimpanzees all come “on heat” or “in season.” Females are receptive only during their fertile periods. Humans, however can have sex at any time – and one reason for this is the long dependency of human children. The bonds between man and wife must last for many years, so the children will be properly raised and cared for by two parents.
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Wait, do I hear the sound of certain very warm regions freezing?😛

Vern, I agree with you!
 
KarenNC said:
Wait, do I hear the sound of certain very warm regions freezing?😛

Vern, I agree with you!
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It is a mistake to pre-jduge a person’s opinions based on prior disagreements on other subjects.😉
 
vern_humphrey said:
Let me put it this way, two of the greatest mistakes you can make in life are having sex with the wrong person (that is, someone to whom you are not married) and not having enough sex with the right person – your husband or wife. It is impossible to overestimate the unitive aspect of sex, bringing husband and wife together in a lifelong bond.

And note that we humans are not like most other mammals. Dogs, cats, horses, cows, chimpanzees all come “on heat” or “in season.” Females are receptive only during their fertile periods. Humans, however can have sex at any time – and one reason for this is the long dependency of human children. The bonds between man and wife must last for many years, so the children will be properly raised and cared for by two parents.
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Well let me ask you something. What about people who get a divorce are were they having sex for the right reason?
 
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