Why did God create dinosaurs

[spn82756]

Steve, excellent question, addressed in part by Robert John Russell in "The transfiguration of the Cosmos: a Fresh Exploration of the Symbol of the Cosmic Christ " chapter nine in Cosmology: From Alpha to Omega 92008).

A vegetarian velociraptor would not be what it is according to a nature. But neither would a human that ate no food be a human. And if God converts all guts to vegetarian gust, what about the poor plants in heaven? Perhaps the problem is that we are conceiving of eternity as merely an extrapolation of temporality for a very long time.

Perhaps Erazim Kohac’s insight is helpful, that humans stand at the intersection of time and eternity, the Incarnation. Perhaps the beatific vision is such that all creatures are transfigured by the incarnate Christ in such a way that their being is fulfilled in eternity, which stands outside of time. Humans and velociraptors and your dogs and my cat and salmon and mosquitoes will “behold” the vision of God most appropriate to their cognitive state.

StAnastasia

EXACTLY MY FRIEND…too many people try to box God into our limited understanding of Him and heaven.

Eye has not seen…Ear has not heard.

God bless!
Steve

 

[grannymh]

Out of respect for the ban in this forum, I am prohibited from replying in full to some of the errors in this thread regarding the nature of the human being and the separate nature of
non-human animals.

See sticky at the top. Temporary Ban on Evolution/Atheism Threads

Nonetheless, I do offer a source for real information about the real Catholic teaching regarding the real nature of the human being and also the real Catholic teaching about the real God and the real meanings [sic] of grace.

I encourage people who are interested in the truth to read the
Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition, ISBN: 1-57455-109-4

Or use this handy link for the Catechism

Blessings,
granny

These two websites contain TV ads about Catholicism. The first is from one of the Dioceses which is using them. The second is general information.

 

[GEddie]

Regarding the wildest statement ever “I’d say that it’s an open question whether eternal life is available to them,[dogs and cats] seeing as CHRIST said zero about that anyhow!” – I don’t know whether to laugh or cry when the obvious teachings of Jesus Christ appear to be ignored.

Blessings,
granny

SO granny, by all means, enlighten my mind as to those OBVIOUS teachings of our LORD. Where indeed did HE say that other species would, or would not, have a life everlasting?

ICXC NIKA

 

[StAnastasia]

Good scientists I’ve been taught always check the anomalies to see if they are correct and to see if they will lead to new knowledge and a new paradigm.

(1) fossil human footprints with dinosaurs

1. The footprints reputed to be of human origin are not. For example:
   • Some of the footprints are dinosaur footprints. Processes such as erosion, infilling, and mud collapse obscure the dinosaurian features of some footprints, making them look like giant human footprints, but careful cleaning reveals the three-toed tracks of dinosaurs (Hastings 1987; Kuban 1989).
   • Some of the reputed prints are erosional features or other irregularities. They show no clear human features without selective highlighting.
   • Some of the prints show evidence of deliberate alteration (Godfrey 1985).
2. The Paluxy tracks are illustrative of creationists’ wishful thinking and of their unwillingness to face evidence. Although some creationists have repudiated the Paluxy claim, many others still cling to it (Schadewald 1986).

 

[StAnastasia]

Out of respect for the ban in this forum, I am prohibited from replying in full to some of the errors in this thread regarding the nature of the human being and the separate nature of non-human animals.

Indeed, as I’m prohibited from replying in full to your mistaken arguments. Let’s agree to disagree, in the spirit of charity!

 

[spn82756]

SO granny, by all means, enlighten my mind as to those OBVIOUS teachings of our LORD. Where indeed did HE say that other species would, or would not, have a life everlasting?

ICXC NIKA

Me too…please.

 

[grannymh]

SO granny, by all means, enlighten my mind as to those OBVIOUS teachings of our LORD. Where indeed did HE say that other species would, or would not, have a life everlasting?

ICXC NIKA

If you wish, you could read the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John or check out the Epistles for St. Paul’s teaching about human nature. I have already given the Catechism source in a previous thread. My suggestion is to pay attention to what is known as Divine Revelation.

Blessings,
granny

Isaiah 55

 

[grannymh]

Indeed, as I’m prohibited from replying in full to your mistaken arguments. Let’s agree to disagree, in the spirit of charity!

In the spirit of Divine Revelation, I agree totally with the teachings of the Catholic Church regarding the different natures of dinosaurs and humans.

 

[StAnastasia]

If you wish, you could read the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John or check out the Epistles for St. Paul’s teaching about human nature.

Yep – read them! Which passages in particular declare that non-human animals will not inherit the kingdom of God?

 

[StAnastasia]

In the spirit of Divine Revelation, I agree totally with the teachings of the Catholic Church regarding the different natures of dinosaurs and humans.

Ah – so dinosaurs and humans have different natures. On that we agree to agree!

 

[Memaw]

That just means you’re rounding up.

I think it means he’s,(she’s) daydreaming.

 

[Memaw]

Yep – read them! Which passages in particular declare that non-human animals will not inherit the kingdom of God?

Better yet, which passages Do declare that non-human animals Will inherit the Kingdom of God. ??? Please point them out to me. Are you saying that Christ died for animals too? This is getting beyond silly.

 

[StAnastasia]

Better yet, which passages Do declare that non-human animals Will inherit the Kingdom of God. ??? Please point them out to me. Are you saying that Christ died for animals too? This is getting beyond silly.

No, the silliness is your outdated, tired old anthropocentrism.

 

[spn82756]

Better yet, which passages Do declare that non-human animals Will inherit the Kingdom of God. ??? Please point them out to me. Are you saying that Christ died for animals too? This is getting beyond silly.

It’s only getting silly for those that put God in their little box.

 

[Memaw]

Steve, that leads to an interesting question: will there be velociraptors in heaven? We tend to forget that what we see around us today is only the briefest of snapshots of evolutionary history on earth. Biologists estimate that 99.9% of all species that ever lived have gone extinct. Is God’s overflowing generosity great enough to confer eternal enjoyment of the beatific vision of all of life? Or only on some of it? Even if – God forbid – only humans are permitted this privilege, at what point in the 5 million years of hominid evolution does the privilege kick in? What generation of hominids will enjoy eternity, know that their parents do not enjoy it?

StAnastasia

Please don’t tell those who worship animals that some have already gone extinct, it will break their hearts.

 

[StAnastasia]

It’s only getting silly for those that put God in their little box.

Steve, you’re right that God’s too big for a box:

“The wolf and the lamb will feed together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox, but dust will be the serpent’s food. They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain, says the LORD.” (Isaiah 65: 25, NIV)

 

[StAnastasia]

Please don’t tell those who worship animals that some have already gone extinct, it will break their hearts.

Sorry, but 99.9% of all species that have ever existed are now extinct. Humans too may eventually evolve into a new species, with which we would not be able to breed. I doubt this will happen as long as we have ready transportation around the globe.

 

[Memaw]

No, the silliness is your outdated, tired old anthropocentrism.

There you go with those big words again, I think you need to take this up with a priest. What I believe is old, I’ll grant you that, at least 2,000 years old but its not tired. and never will be. God Bless, Memaw

 

[spn82756]

Steve, you’re right that God’s too big for a box:

“The wolf and the lamb will feed together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox, but dust will be the serpent’s food. They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain, says the LORD.” (Isaiah 65: 25, NIV)

Unfortunately too many literalists don’t have room for God. They have decided what He can and cannot do. All in the name of Catholicism. What they fail to realize is that the Church well knows that there are many questions that are not answered here on earth. But they have answers. Oh well…some day we will all know…but I will not be surprised to see many things in heaven that fundamentalists will be disappointed in.

We cannot speak for God on many things. The Bible was meant for human salvation…not for other possibilities that God sees.

 

[spn82756]

There you go with those big words again, I think you need to take this up with a priest. What I believe is old, I’ll grant you that, at least 2,000 years old but its not tired. and never will be. God Bless, Memaw

I mentioned the idea of animals in heaven on another post. I assume you are a theologist with a different understanding than CAF apologists. They seem to think that animals in heaven are a distinct possibility. Perhaps you should take some time to correct Michelle Arnold. She may appreciate your (name removed by moderator)ut.