Why did God create light twice, day one and day four?

[TimothyH]

It is curious that light was created, but light emitting sources were not created until after light was there. In Biblical days, light came from the sun, moon, stars, fire, and perhaps auras. But these were not cited as being created before light itself. How curious!

Jesus is light.

The true light that enlightens every man was coming into the world. (John 1:9)

Jesus even says that he is light.

I have come as light into the world, that whoever believes in me may not remain in darkness. (John 12:46)

Paul saw the the Light of Jesus.

Now as he journeyed he approached Damascus, and suddenly a light from heaven flashed about him. And he fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?” And he said, “Who are you, Lord?” And he said, "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting; (Acts 9:3-5)

Paul wrote of the light of Jesus

***For it is the God who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ. *(2 Corinthians 4:6)

The word light appears over 100 times in the New Testament. The light that was eternally begotten before all creation, in the third line of the Bible, was Jesus.

-Tim-

 

[nmgauss]

Jesus is light.

The true light that enlightens every man was coming into the world. (John 1:9)

Jesus even says that he is light.

I have come as light into the world, that whoever believes in me may not remain in darkness. (John 12:46)

Paul saw the the Light of Jesus.

Now as he journeyed he approached Damascus, and suddenly a light from heaven flashed about him. And he fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?” And he said, “Who are you, Lord?” And he said, "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting; (Acts 9:3-5)

Paul wrote of the light of Jesus

***For it is the God who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ. ***(2 Corinthians 4:6)

The word light appears over 100 times in the New Testament. The light that was eternally begotten before all creation, in the third line of the Bible, was Jesus.

-Tim-

So, what is the message? Are we to focus on Jesus Himself rather than His message?

 

[Robert_Sock]

That is the Jewish faith which consists of fundamentally different understandings of God, Creation, and God’s relationship with mankind and as per the article, even the reason of Creation and the creation of mankind. I love the Jewish people and appreciate their role in salvation history. However, I am Catholic and I try to grow in my Catholic faith and I try to make sure that I do not syncretize my faith with any other faith. I suppose I can do that with no problems and as a matter of course, because I actually feel blessed to be Catholic and consider it a great gift. I feel so because I know that the Catholic Church is the Church established by Our Lord Jesus Christ. I appreciate what Peter said:

John 6:68
…67So Jesus said to the twelve, “You do not want to go away also, do you?” 68Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life. 69"We have believed and have come to know that You are the Holy One of God.”…

and this advice;

Ephesians 4:14
…13until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ. 14As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming; 15but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head,

So, I do not share your appreciation for that understanding as it is not in harmony with Catholic teachings.

Blessings,

Abba

I never expected that you replace Catholicism with Judaism. Please read what I wrote more carefully.

LOVE!

 

[TimothyH]

So, what is the message? Are we to focus on Jesus Himself rather than His message?

Jesus is the message.

Jesus is the word which became flesh. Jesus is the good news. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life - not a man who proclaimed truth nor a man with a message about life but truth and life itself. He is the light which enlightens every man. Apart from him you can do nothing.

Look to Jesus…

And Jesus in pity touched their eyes, and immediately they received their sight and followed him. (Matthew 20:34)

The message is Jesus.

-Tim-

 

[nmgauss]

Jesus is the message.

Jesus is the word which became flesh. Jesus is the good news. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life - not a man who proclaimed truth nor a man with a message about life but truth and life itself. He is the light which enlightens every man. Apart from him you can do nothing.

Look to Jesus…

And Jesus in pity touched their eyes, and immediately they received their sight and followed him. (Matthew 20:34)

The message is Jesus.

-Tim-

So forget about the ten commandments, the Apostle’s Creed, the Nicaean Creed, and just devote all your attention to Jesus. This is true Christianity in that it is more about Jesus, than his teachings.

 

[TimothyH]

So forget about the ten commandments, the Apostle’s Creed, the Nicaean Creed, and just devote all your attention to Jesus. This is true Christianity in that it is more about Jesus, than his teachings.

Forget about the ten commandments, etc. are your words, not mine. I never said that.

-Tim-

 

[abucs]

So forget about the ten commandments, the Apostle’s Creed, the Nicaean Creed, and just devote all your attention to Jesus. This is true Christianity in that it is more about Jesus, than his teachings.

Jesus is the incarnated God. The promised Messiah establishing the everlasting covenant. He is the message and teaching.

“No-one comes to the Father but by me”
“The Father and I are one”.
“I am the light of the world”
“Before Abraham was, I Am”
“I am the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end”
"At the end of time you will see the Son of Man come in the clouds with the power of Heaven’
“I have the power to lay my life down and I have the power to take it up again”

That message did not begin with any Roman Emperor.

 

[TimothyH]

Just for clarity and disclosure, nmguass lists his religion as secular humanist.

nmguass’ comments make sense to me now that I know his “religion” (for lack of a better word).

-Tim-

 

[nmgauss]

Jesus is the incarnated God. The promised Messiah establishing the everlasting covenant. He is the message and teaching.

“No-one comes to the Father but by me”
“The Father and I are one”.
“I am the light of the world”
“Before Abraham was, I Am”
“I am the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end”
"At the end of time you will see the Son of Man come in the clouds with the power of Heaven’
“I have the power to lay my life down and I have the power to take it up again”

That message did not begin with any Roman Emperor.

Is that the everlasting covenant? I thought it originally was about Yahweh promising Noah not to kill every living thing by flood again.

 

[sirach2v4]

Christians may have originally had a uniform doctrine and belief system after Pentecost. This was the Apostle’s Creed. But soon thereafter, Christianity began to be complicated by assertions on the nature of Jesus in addition to the original creed. When this happened, various bishops throughout the Mediterranean began to teach their own ideas about Jesus. When this happened, Christianity began to be more about Jesus than his teachings. This went on for three hundred years with bishops arguing against each other and the pope… Finally Emperor Constantine put a stop to that. At last the Council of Nicaea established the Catholic Church with a unified doctrine. However, it was not until Emperor Theodosius made the Catholic Church the official state church that the church became the Roman Catholic Church. Anyone not toeing the line was branded a heretic.

I heard Patrick Madrid discuss this last point on his EWTN radio program. According to him, Constantine only legitimized the Christian faith, he did not exclude others.

 

[Usagi]

The light is Jesus.

God’s first act was to call light into existence.

And God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. (Genesis 1:3)

Jesus is the light of men. Let there be light" refers to Christ. We testify to this in the creed…

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father

The opening lines of the Bible, God’s first act, is a reference to the Light of light, the Light of life, the Light of men, the Light that shines in the darkness - Jesus Christ - eternally begotten of the Father, just like it says in the third line of the Bible.

-Tim-

I know it’s not your intent, but that interpretation seems dangerously close to depicting the Son as part of the created order,which is exactly the opposite of what those words from the Creed are trying to convey.

Usagi