There’s plenty of reasons, I’m sure, but this one of those things where I just say, “God had a reason, and I don’t presume to know it, so I’ll just wait till I die to find out.
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Fair enough!There’s plenty of reasons, I’m sure, but this one of those things where I just say, “God had a reason, and I don’t presume to know it, so I’ll just wait till I die to find out.
God doesn’t need anything at all. Not men, not Our Lady, not to take flesh and dwell among us. Yet, he has willed many things. It is especially shallow the idea that God would create creatures in order for them to rebel. You confuse the freedom of will granted to all creatures (even the spiritual ones) with the Divine Will (which is holy and does not will sin or evil).
Any dogma is an infallible doctrine, divinely and formally revealed by God as a necessary truth for salvation. Infallibility on matters of faith and morals pertains to both the Extraordinary Magisterium (an ex cathedra pronouncement of the Roman Pontiff or a de fide statement of an Ecumenical Council) and to the Ordinary Magisterium (the perennial teaching of the Pope and the Bishops in union with him around the world).
I suppose one answer as good as any would be out of love, which is the same reason G-d created the universe and all its creatures, including humans. Certainly not out of need for companionship, praise, or worship, since G-d is complete unto Himself.
The word “Angel” appears 346 times in the Revised Standard Version Bible. You can read every verse containing the world angel at quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/r/rsv/rsv-idx?type=simple&format=Long&q1=Angel&restrict=All&size=All.
RC… Thank you for the informative response.God doesn’t need anything at all. Not men, not Our Lady, not to take flesh and dwell among us. Yet, he has willed many things. It is especially shallow the idea that God would create creatures in order for them to rebel. You confuse the freedom of will granted to all creatures (even the spiritual ones) with the Divine Will (which is holy and does not will sin or evil).
The book “Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma” by Dr. Ludwig Ott brings together some essential teachings of the Church and is a standard reference. There we find:
Any dogma is an infallible doctrine, divinely and formally revealed by God as a necessary truth for salvation. Infallibility on matters of faith and morals pertains to both the Extraordinary Magisterium (an ex cathedra pronouncement of the Roman Pontiff or a de fide statement of an Ecumenical Council) and to the Ordinary Magisterium (the perennial teaching of the Pope and the Bishops in union with him around the world).
In this context, we have different theological distinctions. When we say De Fide, we mean a teachinng of the highest level of theological/doctrinal truth. When we say *Sententia Certa *we mean a theologically certain opinion, without final approval but clearly deduced from revelation. When we say Sententia communis, we mean a common teaching widely held, and generally accepted by theologians, but not dogmatically asserted. (source)
In short, the above is the official teaching on the angels (very summarized, of course) which is known to be truthful.
We don’t quite believes that the angels have free will to rebel - much less for fallen angels like Lucifer to repent.
Never meant to say that, sorry if it sounded that way. I just came from a thread where we are discussing double predestination and I was summarizing what Calvin and Jansenus said - that’s what I had in my mind when I spoke of a shallow idea, rather than your perfectly sound question
Never meant to say that, sorry if it sounded that way. I just came from a thread where we are discussing double predestination and I was summarizing what Calvin and Jansenus said - that’s what I had in my mind when I spoke of a shallow idea, rather than your perfectly sound question
Well I don’t doubt that you frequently contribute more depth to any discussion here on CAF! I don’t have the patience to deal with the Calvinists… My rather pedestrian question was poorly worded I suppose.Never meant to say that, sorry if it sounded that way. I just came from a thread where we are discussing double predestination and I was summarizing what Calvin and Jansenus said - that’s what I had in my mind when I spoke of a shallow idea, rather than your perfectly sound question
Yes, of course, angels serve as messengers from G-d. I neglected to point that out in my post.
I wonder if we need to wait? I never gave angels too much thought except the earthly ones.There’s plenty of reasons, I’m sure, but this one of those things where I just say, “God had a reason, and I don’t presume to know it, so I’ll just wait till I die to find out.