Why did God create the world, knowing that if he did some beings would end up in hell?

[fhansen]

So the fall was necessary for us to even have free will in the first place…right?

After all is there free will when there is only one choice available? In order for a choice to be made, there must be at least 2 selections (available options) to choose from, if there is only one, its not really a choice anymore.

Free will did* not necessitate the Fall; free will simply implies the freedom* to choose one way or the other, not the orientation towards one particular choice or the other. Had Adam responded to God appropriately he would’ve chosen rightly. But yes, options are necessary in order for free will to have any meaning, in order for it to be used.

 

[jcrichton]

Eternal life and freedom outweigh any temporary suffering.

Freedom demands free willed agents. Free will produces inevitable evil. But evil can be locked eternally.

If all evil will only exists temporarily and will be followed by infinite and eternal good then the temporary suffering is worth to go through.

Just like the temporary suffering of a necessary surgical procedure. The end justifies the means.

Hi!

…that term is quite a load… I doubt that it is applicable to Creation since what we know of Creation is that God saw that it was good!

…no one bent Lucifer’s arm (mind, etc.) to compel him to attempt a coup; no one compels man’s freewill to act in one way or the other… God did not create evil so that good would prosper or stand out…

…the means remains: man’s freewill.

Maran atha!

Angel

 

[jcrichton]

Not always, there are times where the downsides outweigh the benefit of being alive. Of course, this is a Catholic forum, where the idea of just existing is better, even if that existence is short and unbearably painful cause that unfortunate soul might go to Heaven.

Hi, Ariel!

…there was a time when the life of a person of color was seen as something to be squashed; there was a time when a woman was valued as inferior to man; there was a time when power and wealth meant “right;” that time was not too far ago… in some places in the world it is still the rule of the day… people are being put down because of someone’s thirst for power, wealth, superiority, greed, lust, elitist grandeur… all of these start from the mental manipulation that one person’s life is above others…

…you reject the value of life on account of our affiliation with Yahweh God… I suspect that you are a person who see abortion and euthanasia as a blessing while seeking to anthropomorphize animals out of respect for their “life.”

…ever seen one of those animals kill off their own out of mercy to put them out of their pain and suffering?

It is only man who makes such outlandish claims–and most who are quick to pass such judgment against others seldomly volunteer for the same treatment!

Maran atha!

Angel