Why did god design us so badly?

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Actually, it was your disparaging use of the word “barbaric”, I was objecting to.
 
He didn’t. When the fall of Adam and Eve happened, mankind became cursed. We are still affected by that curse. Thankfully, the spiritual effects of the curse can be taken away through baptism and confession. 🙂
 
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Well, what prevents this god from having been evolved same as us?
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The fact that no spiritual being can ever change.

See, no parts. No parts means no change.

And in order to maintain the universe, He’d have to be a spirit, not a part of said universe.
 
Hastrman said:
The fact that no spiritual being can ever change.

See, no parts. No parts means no change.

And in order to maintain the universe, He’d have to be a spirit, not a part of said universe.
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I didn’t say that this god changed. I asked if it could be evolved. As the Barbarian noted, individuals do not change, populations do.

So a god, even a spirit god could certainly be the product of the same kind of evolutionary process. If you are axiomatic about this being impossible, perhaps you simply have a negative opinion of evolution. But I’m not aware of any teaching that states this god cannot have been evolved. But that’s all another subject anyway.

And not to put too fine a point on it, but spirits, individual spirits, must certainly be capable of change. For there must be some fundamental difference between a soul in a heaven and a soul in a hell, or else they would not become segregated after departing from their point of origin, which is this god.
 
I thought that populations can only evolve due to changes-mutations-which first appear in individuals.
 
To nitpick:

Individuals can change. For example, they can have somatic mutations that may produce cancer or other changes. But they can’t evolve, i.e. they can’t change their genetics.

Only populations can evolve.

Evolution: A change in allele frequency in a population over time.
 
crowonsnow said:
I didn’t say that this god changed. I asked if it could be evolved. As the Barbarian noted, individuals do not change, populations do.

So a god, even a spirit god could certainly be the product of the same kind of evolutionary process. If you are axiomatic about this being impossible, perhaps you simply have a negative opinion of evolution. But I’m not aware of any teaching that states this god cannot have been evolved. But that’s all another subject anyway.

And not to put too fine a point on it, but spirits, individual spirits, must certainly be capable of change. For there must be some fundamental difference between a soul in a heaven and a soul in a hell, or else they would not become segregated after departing from their point of origin, which is this god.
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No, there’s only one Supreme Being (hence the name), therefore there is no population that could evolve–and the single-only supreme being can’t change.

As for spirits, they themselves don’t change. Angelic free choice essentially consisted of choosing what they would be–and they never got to choose again. Human free choice is more complicated because we have parts, and our spirits are simply that which makes us what we are. We still get to choose, moment by moment, what it is that our spirits make us.
 
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