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Only as “literal” as the context in which it was said. Just previously Paul stated: “…and all were baptized (identified) into Moses in the cloud and in the sea; and all ate the same SPIRITUAL food; and all drank the same SPIRITUAL drink, for they were drinking from a SPIRITUAL rock which followed them; and the rock was Christ (Messiah)” (1 Cor. 10:2-4). There was a SPIRITUAL significance behind the manna, the water and the rock, and their participation in them. They all pointed to the Messiah who was yet to come.
10:2. And all in Moses were baptized, in the cloud and in the sea:
Challoner’s commentary:
In Moses. . .Under the conduct of Moses, they received baptism in
figure, by passing under the cloud, and through the sea; and they partook of the body and blood of Christ in figure, by eating of the manna, (called here a spiritual food because it was a figure of the true bread which comes down from heaven,) and drinking the water, miraculously brought out of the rock, called here a spiritual rock, because it was also a figure of Christ.
10:3. And did all eat the same spiritual food:
10:4. And all drank the same spiritual drink: (And they drank of the spiritual rock that followed them: and the rock was Christ.)
(1 Cor 10:2-4) Douay Rheims Challoner)
What was the substance of the manna?
**What is the substance of Jesus?
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Now in verse sixteen, in the same manner, our blessing is SPIRITUAL when we partake of the communion bread and drink the communion wine. As the manna, the water and the rock spiritually looked forward to the Messiah
OK.
Stone:
so the bread and wine spiritually look back, in humble, appreciative “remembrance” to the cross and the sacrificial death of Messiah. The context does not at all require a literal meaning, i.e., that Paul was stating that in some mystical way the bread and wine “transubstantiate.”
10:6. Now these things were done in a
figure of us, that we should not covet evil things, as they also coveted.
10:11. Now all these things happened to them in
figure: and they are written for our correction, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
It’s looking real-good for the case of the eucharist being only symbolic? Oh! Oh! Oh! Does it say
Sola Figura? Gosh, I don’t think it does. I wonder where St Paul is going with this?
**10:15. I speak as to wise men: judge ye yourselves what I say.
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Looks like we are about to find out. Here is the turn in the plot:
10:16. The chalice of benediction which we bless, is it not the
communion of the blood of Christ? And the bread which we break, is it not the
partaking of the body of the Lord?
Challoner’s commentary:
Which we bless. . .Here the apostle puts them in mind of their partaking of the body and blood of Christ in the sacred mysteries, and becoming thereby one mystical body with Christ. From whence he infers, ver. 21, that they who are made partakers with Christ, by the eucharistic sacrifice and sacrament, must not be made partakers with devils by eating of the meats sacrificed to them.
Stone:
And He says, “do this in remembrance of Me.”
Where is Paul going with the whole letter?
1 Cor 15. Any thoughts?
If you are interested I can give you the link to the whol thing I had to omit quite a bit to make it fit the word limit, so if you would like to read more by him PM me and I will send you the link. You are of course free to disagree,but I commend you for being open enough to read it.God Bless
I did it again.God Bless
But if you do not jest, then please give us a version of the Bible which adds this clause. :yup: **How can a person be guilty of the body or blood of the Lord if the body and blood of the Lord is merely symbolized? ****** This sounds like some very serious business here. One would hope to do some serious soul searching and actually get this right.