Why did Saudi Arabia ban Bible?

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If they believe Quran and following that, then they wont do this. Let us see, what Qura`n says about Bible.

Al-Ahqaf (46):12 And before this (Qur’an) was the Book of Moses as a guide and a mercy; and this book (Qur’an) confirms (it) in the Arabic tongue.
Al- An’am (6):92 And this is a book (Qur’an) which We have sent down, bringing blessings and confirming (the revelations) which came before it.
Al-Maidah (5):48 To thee (Muhammad) We sent the scripture (Qur'an) in truth **confirming** the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety. Muminun (40):70-72 Those who reject the Book(Bible) and the (revelations) with which We sent Our apostles: but soon shall they know, - when the yokes (shall be) round their necks, and the chains; they shall be dragged along in the boiling fetid fluid; then in the Fire shall they be burned.

According to Qura`n it came to confirm and guarding the Bible in the Arabic tongue, then why there is a ban to Bible in Saudi Arabia?

In Christ,
selvaraj
 
I wonder what they do about all the US military there that have bibles? Are they sequestered to the base?
 
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selvaraj:
If they believe Quran and following that, then they wont do this. Let us see, what Qura`n says about Bible.
just curious, what is the reasoning that makes you think that these verses show that if saudi truly believed in the Quran, they wouldn’t ban the bible in their country?
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selvaraj:
According to Qura`n it came to confirm and guarding the Bible in the Arabic tongue…
this a perfect example why you can’t rely just on any english translations of the Quran or even just Quranic verses on their own without knowing their explanations :nope: . also, just to clarify, since you seem to be just cutting & pasting these verses from somewhere else without verifying, soorah al-mu’minoon is chapter 23, not chapter 40. chapter 40 is soorah ghaafir.

the word translated as “confirms” and “confirming” in the above quotes is the word “musaddiq”, which is used as an adjective to the word “book” in the 1st verse, meaning “attesting”, and as a noun in the 2 after it, meaning “attestation”.

in 5:48, “guarding it” does not refer to the Quran guarding the previous scriptures, it refers to Allah and His angels guarding the Quran.

you should also know that when Allah says He sent the Quran as an attestation that it means that we affirm that Allah revealed Books to the people before us and that we believe in and acknowledge them as once being Books sent by Allah.

as for the last verse, it does not refer to those who reject bible at all. it refers to those who reject the Quran. had you referred to the Quranic exegesis, you would have known that.

46:12 and before it is moses’ book, as a standard and a mercy. and this is an attesting Book in an arabic tongue in order that those who were oppressed would be warned and as a glad tiding for the beneficent. meaning: before this Quran, We revealed the torah as a standard for the children of israel to be guided by, and as a mercy for whoever believed in it and acted by what it contained. and this Quran is an attestation to what was before it from the Books. We revealed it in an arabic tongue so that those who oppressed themselves with disbelief and disobedience would be warned and as a glad tiding for those who obeyed Allah and excelled in their faith and their obedience in the worldly life. (source: tafseer al-muyassar).

6:92 and this is a Book that We have revealed. a blessing and the attestation of that which is in front of it (lit. between its hands) and in order that the mother of towns (mecca) and whoever is around it would be warned. and those who believe in the hereafter believe in it, and they are guardians of their prayers. meaning: and this Quran is a Book that We revealed to you, o Messenger - great in benefit, an attestation to what preceded it from the ] Books. We revealed it in order to frighten the people of mecca and whoever is around it from the people of aqtaar of all of the world from Allah’s punishment and His harm with it. and those who attest to the life of the hereafter and attest that the Quran is Allah’s speech and they guard the establishment of the prayer during its times. (source: tafseer al-muyassar).

5:48 and We revealed the Book to you in truth as an attestation for what is in front of it (lit. between its hands) of the Book and as a guardian over it. meaning: We revealed to you - o Messenger - the Quran and all of what it contains is truth testifying to the truthfulness of the Books before it and that they are from Allah, and as an attestation for what they contain of correctness, and as a clarifier for what they contain of distortion, as an abrogator for some of their legislations. (source: tafseer al-muyassar).

40:70-72 those who belied the Book and what We sent Our messengers with, so they will come to know. when the fetters are on their necks and the iron chains are dragged. in the hameem, then in the fire they are heated. meaning: those polytheists who belied the Quran and the named Books that Allah sent down upon His messengers for the people’s guidance, so, those rejectors will come to know the results of their rejection when the fetters are placed on their necks, the iron chains on their legs and the guards of the punishment drag them in the hot water that is severe in its ? and its heat, then in the fire of hell that burns them. (source: tafseer al-muyassar).

the Quran testifies that Allah revealed Books to the peoples before us and that He sent them with His messengers. this is how it confirms and attests to them. it is the final revelation to mankind that Allah has sent and abrogates all that came before it. Allah says, “whatever the Messenger gives you, then take it and whatever the Messenger prohibits you from, then avoid it.” and there is a famous incident that is narrated where prophet muhammad saw one of his companions reading the torah, he said to that companion, “surely, if moses was alive today, he would have to follow me.”
 
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r.gonzales:
and there is a famous incident that is narrated where prophet muhammad saw one of his companions reading the torah, he said to that companion, “surely, if moses was alive today, he would have to follow me.”
Wow, he was rather full of himself wasn’t he?
 
My fellow Muslim brethren,

I work and live in Saudi Arabia for the US mission. Believe me! I do believe most Muslims are good people and God fearing. I interact with them all day long. They’re good to me, at least on official business anyway. I rarely rarely get approached by a Saudi wanting me to become a Muslim. Maybe because I represent the US govt or something. If the bible is not worth the paper it’s printed on, why can’t we bring it inside the country? Please, explain that to me. Thanks!
 
I dont think any knowledgable muslim would say the Bible is not worth teh paper it is written on . TYhe Bible DO have teh word of God in it . But it is not Pure word of God , its mixed . Some are things God really said and some is not . For me when i handle teh bible i handle it with respect . I dont put anything on top of it.

brothers you can have the bible as print out on a printer from the internet . its all over the internet and if you have a printer you can have the bible .

Saudi is the Muslim shrine. Muslims only are citizens of saudi. It has a special place in the hearts of Muslims and would like to keep it purly Islamic. The prophet commanded that there is no other religion but Islam in this part of the world. I dont think saudi has any worth for non muslims any way. Its a piece of desert with no historical sites or beaches or anything at all. And petrol is flowing. I guess there are many places in teh world to go and visit or work better than saudi .

Peace
 
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MugenOne:
I work and live in Saudi Arabia
you’re there, why don’t you ask one of their government officials why? you’d get a better answer from them than you would from those of us who don’t live there or aren’t from there.
 
Why did Saudi Arabia ban Bible?

B/c they felt like it. What other reason would they need? They oppress their own people who follow the state religion, what makes makes you think they will be all lovey-dovey with outsiders?

wa salam
 
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meedo:
I dont think any knowledgable muslim would say the Bible is not worth teh paper it is written on . TYhe Bible DO have teh word of God in it . But it is not Pure word of God , its mixed . Some are things God really said and some is not . For me when i handle teh bible i handle it with respect . I dont put anything on top of it.

brothers you can have the bible as print out on a printer from the internet . its all over the internet and if you have a printer you can have the bible .

Saudi is the Muslim shrine. Muslims only are citizens of saudi. It has a special place in the hearts of Muslims and would like to keep it purly Islamic. The prophet commanded that there is no other religion but Islam in this part of the world. I dont think saudi has any worth for non muslims any way. Its a piece of desert with no historical sites or beaches or anything at all. And petrol is flowing. I guess there are many places in teh world to go and visit or work better than saudi .

Peace
Same like I do to quran. I never think it was word of god nor was it from god. if we can have the bible(book) why should we print by ourselves? isnt it obvious that you people really ban bible in arabic? “there is no other religion but islam in this part of the world” such a lovely word from a so called prophet of god.

Unfortunately…arabian need them to work there…
 
Peace bro/sis

To tell u the truth, i think the bible should be banned from SA.

The Protestant deleted 7 books (Apocrypha) from the Bible, the reason they say is that they never met the criteria for divine inspiration, but the truth is that those 7 books (which the Catholic still include in the Bible) contain explicit writings.
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 Read this from (Judges 16:1)  "Then went Samson to Gaza, and saw there a harlot, and went in unto her."    
       Is this the word of God !!!    

 Read Genesis chapter 38, verses 6 to 25.  (no comment).

   In Islam many kids memorise the Qur'an with the interpretation by age 15.    I don't think you should be allowed to even read the Bible under age 18.

  Peace
 
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Edris:
Peace bro/sis

To tell u the truth, i think the bible should be banned from SA.

The Protestant deleted 7 books (Apocrypha) from the Bible, the reason they say is that they never met the criteria for divine inspiration, but the truth is that those 7 books (which the Catholic still include in the Bible) contain explicit writings.
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 Read this from (Judges 16:1)  "Then went Samson to Gaza, and saw there a harlot, and went in unto her."    
       Is this the word of God !!!    

 Read Genesis chapter 38, verses 6 to 25.  (no comment).

   In Islam many kids memorise the Qur'an with the interpretation by age 15.    I don't think you should be allowed to even read the Bible under age 18.

  Peace
aha … thats because you hate peace and love. you like violent, killing people. no wonder bible should be ban in SA. Bible is not what you are looking for and it is not what you prophet say about injeel. memorise? hmmm you are brainwashed. you just memorise it and never doubt it. you just go around in your circle.
 
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cute2904:
aha … thats because you hate peace and love. you like violent, killing people. no wonder bible should be ban in SA. Bible is not what you are looking for and it is not what you prophet say about injeel. memorise? hmmm you are brainwashed. you just memorise it and never doubt it. you just go around in your circle.
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  I said  "memorise the Qur'an with the Interpretation".

   I Believe you haven't read the verses that i quoted,   maybe your God loves peace this is why he killed  two guys because they didn't want to marry their brother's widow.    Or what a doctrine is that  we should follow,  "a man cohibiting with his daughter inlaw".       Or maybe we should do like Samson, when we meet a prostitute we should sleep with her.   
   IS THIS THE TEACHINGS OF THE BIBLE !!!
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Edris:
I said “memorise the Qur’an with the Interpretation”.
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   I Believe you haven't read the verses that i quoted,   maybe your God loves peace this is why he killed  two guys because they didn't want to marry their brother's widow.    Or what a doctrine is that  we should follow,  "a man cohibiting with his daughter inlaw".       Or maybe we should do like Samson, when we meet a prostitute we should sleep with her.   
   IS THIS THE TEACHINGS OF THE BIBLE !!!
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Were those written in the quran?.. wow…never know that before… would like to hear for the complete version about "why he killed two guys because they didn’t want to marry their brother’s widow. Or what a doctrine is that we should follow, “a man cohibiting with his daughter inlaw”.
 
cute2904 said:
**Were those written in the quran?.. ** wow…never know that before… would like to hear for the complete version about "why he killed two guys because they didn’t want to marry their brother’s widow. Or what a doctrine is that we should follow, “a man cohibiting with his daughter inlaw”.
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Those were written in your bible,  if u want to hear the full version check your bible.
  It seems, you don't even read your own book.

(Judges 16:1)
(Genesis 38: 6-25)
 Both in the old testament.
 
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Edris:
Those were written in your bible, if u want to hear the full version check your bible.
It seems, you don’t even read your own book.
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(Judges 16:1)
(Genesis 38: 6-25)
 Both in the old testament.
Oh okay. thanks for the infor :D, since you been nice to me today to show me OT then let me be sincere to you to show yours.

3:151
We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.

8:60
And prepare against them what force you can and horses tied at the frontier, to terrorize thereby the enemy of Allah…

8:12
I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

Moreover Allah says of those who reject him. Because, Allah has already sentenced them to death.

2:191, And slay them wherever ye catch them

2:193, And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression

2:216, Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you

3:28, Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah

4:48 “Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed.”

4:84, Then fight in Allah’s cause - Thou art held responsible only for thyself - and rouse the believers. It may be that Allah will restrain the fury of the Unbelievers; for Allah is the strongest in might and in punishment.

8:17, It is not ye who slew them; it was Allah: when thou threwest (a handful of dust), it was not thy act, but Allah’s: in order that He might test the Believers by a gracious trial from Himself
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9:29, Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

9:39, Unless ye go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least.

Sura 4:144: Believers, do not choose the unbelievers rather than the faithful as your friends. Would you give Allah a clear proof against yourselves?

Sura 5:17: Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely, Allah-- He is the Messiah, son of Marium. Say: Who then could control anything as against Allah when He wished to destroy the Messiah son of Marium and his mother and all those on the earth?

Sura 5:51: O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

Sura 8:13: When thy Lord revealed to the angels, saying, 'I am with you; so make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Smite them above their necks, and smite off all finger-tips.

Sura 8:40: And fight them until there is no persecution and religion is wholly to Allah. But if they desist, then surely Allah is Watchful of what they do.
 
😃 I assume you copied them from some website i’m sure you didn’t read the Qur’an and pick up those verses by your self. But anyways good job. Some of the verses i don’t know why they are even quoted don’t see the relivence, but i corrected some mistakes in a couple of verses (next time check the translation from a good reference) cause one of the mistakes in verse 5:17 i’m sure it was Intentional. All the verses you mentioned makes sense to every muslim because we understand their meaning, the full story behind each and every verse and why it was mentioned in the Qur’an, and if you want i’m willing to discuss each verse with you or anyone and show you that Islam is a religion of Peace and from the verses you quoted. But i was hoping you’d explain to me what are (Judges 1:16) and (Genesis 38:6-25) doing in the Bible, and by the way i’m still reading the Bible and i have found two more interesting stories, but give me your answers on the previous two first :).

8:12 I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

8:12: When your Lord inspired the angels, "Verily, I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes"

2:191, And slay them wherever ye catch them

2:191: And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah (i.e. Tumult) is worse than killing. And fight not with them at Al-Masjid-al-Harâm (the sanctuary at Makkah), unless they (first) fight you there. But if they attack you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

2:193, And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression

2:193: And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (Tumult) and (all and every kind of) worship is for Allâh. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zâlimûn (the wrong-doers)

2:216, Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you

2:216: Fighting in Allah’s Cause is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allâh knows but you do not know.

8:17, It is not ye who slew them; it was Allah: when thou threwest (a handful of dust), it was not thy act, but Allah’s: in order that He might test the Believers by a gracious trial from Himself

8:15 – 17: O you who believe! When you meet those who disbelieve, in a battle-field, never turn your backs to them. And whoever turns his back to them on such a day - unless it be a stratagem of war, or to retreat to a troop (of his own), - he indeed has drawn upon himself wrath from Allâh. And his abode is Hell, and worst indeed is that destination! You killed them not, but Allâh killed them. And you (Muhammad SAW) threw not when you did throw but Allâh threw, that He might test the believers by a fair trial from Him. Verily, Allâh is All-Hearer, All-Knower.

9:39, Unless ye go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least.

9:38 – 40: O you who believe! What is the matter with you, that when you are asked to march forth in the Cause of Allâh you cling heavily to the earth? Are you pleased with the life of this world rather than the Hereafter? But little is the enjoyment of the life of this world as compared with the Hereafter. If you march not forth, He will punish you with a painful torment and will replace you by another people, and you cannot harm Him at all, and Allâh is Able to do all things. If you help him (Muhammad) not (it does not matter), for Allâh did indeed help him when the disbelievers drove him out, the second of two, when they (Muhammad and Abu Bakr) were in the cave, and he (Muhammad) said to his companion (Abu Bakr): “Be not sad (or afraid), surely Allâh is with us.” Then Allâh sent down His Sakînah (calmness, tranquility, peace, etc.) upon him, and strengthened him with forces (angels) which you saw not, and made the word of those who disbelieved the lowermost, while it was the Word of Allâh that became the uppermost, and Allâh is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
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4:144: Believers, do not choose the unbelievers rather than the faithful as your friends. Would you give Allah a clear proof against yourselves?

**4:142 – 145: Verily, the hypocrites seek to deceive Allâh, but it is He Who deceives them. And when they stand up for As-Salât (the prayer), they stand with laziness and to be seen of men, and they do not remember Allâh but little. (They are) swaying between this and that, belonging neither to these nor to those, and he whom Allâh sends astray, you will not find for him a way. O you who believe! Take not for Auliyâ’ (protectors or helpers or friends) disbelievers instead of believers. Do you wish to offer Allâh a clear proof against yourselves? Verily, the hypocrites will be in the lowest depths (grade) of the Fire; no helper will you find for them. **

5:17: Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely, Allah-- He is the Messiah, son of Mariam. Say: Who then could control anything as against Allah **when He wished ** to destroy the Messiah son of Mariam and his mother and all those on the earth?

5:17: Surely, in disbelief are they who say that Allâh is the Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary). Say (O Muhammad SAW): “Who then has the least power against Allâh, if He were to destroy the Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), his mother, and all those who are on the earth together?” And to Allâh belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them. He creates what He wills. And Allâh is Able to do all things.

Just in case you want to read the next verse after it here it is

5:18: And (both) the Jews and the Christians say: “We are the children of Allâh and His loved ones.” Say: “Why then does He punish you for your sins?” Nay, you are but human beings, of those He has created, He forgives whom He wills and He punishes whom He wills. And to Allâh belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them, and to Him is the return (of all).

5:51: O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

5:46 – 51: …and in their footsteps, We sent ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), confirming the Taurât (Torah) that had come before him, and We gave him the Injeel (Gospel), in which was guidance and light and confirmation of the Taurât (Torah) that had come before it, a guidance and an admonition for the pious. Let the people of the Injeel (Gospel) judge by what Allâh has revealed therein. And whosoever does not judge by what Allâh has revealed (then) such (people) are the Fâsiqûn (the rebellious i.e. disobedient) to Allâh. And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad) the Book (this Qur’ân) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allâh has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allâh willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allâh; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ. And so judge (you O Muhammad) between them by what Allâh has revealed and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they turn you (O Muhammad) far away from some of that which Allâh has sent down to you. And if they turn away, then know that Allah’s Will is to punish them for some sins of theirs. And truly, most of men are Fâsiqûn (rebellious and disobedient to Allâh). Do they then seek the judgement of (the Days of) Ignorance?] And who is better in judgement than Allâh for a people who have firm Faith. O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Auliyâ’ (friends, protectors, helpers, etc.), they are but Auliyâ’ to one another. And if any amongst you takes them as Auliyâ’, then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allâh guides not those people who are the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrongdoers and unjust).
 
Edris said:
😃 I assume you copied them from some website i’m sure you didn’t read the Qur’an and pick up those verses by your self. But anyways good job. Some of the verses i don’t know why they are even quoted don’t see the relivence, but i corrected some mistakes in a couple of verses (next time check the translation from a good reference) cause one of the mistakes in verse 5:17 i’m sure it was Intentional. All the verses you mentioned makes sense to every muslim because we understand their meaning, the full story behind each and every verse and why it was mentioned in the Qur’an, and if you want i’m willing to discuss each verse with you or anyone and show you that Islam is a religion of Peace and from the verses you quoted. But i was hoping you’d explain to me what are (Judges 1:16) and (Genesis 38:6-25) doing in the Bible, and by the way i’m still reading the Bible and i have found two more interesting stories, but give me your answers on the previous two first :).

OF course I read, learn and understand it. afterward, if i need i take it as I dont mind where do I get it. You wish me to have whole books at hand? no way!!! this is internet my friend. you can find what is right and what is wrong according to people. I read christian site and also read muslim site. Most important is the contents. And you just explained in detail the contents i quoted above. Thanks. lets people read and know what islam looks like. 👍 good job to you too!!!
 
Brother Edris,

the story you asked for in Genesis 38 is in there because that is what happened at that time. Not everything in the bible is there because it is a positive thing sanctioned by God. Very often it shows the sinfulness of God’s people, not just rightheousnes. It is a historic story, and it shows that sin is and has been committed, even by Judah himself.
In terms of the meaning, reprocussion, etc of the story, I haven’t looked into it that far.

Oh, and the same with Judges.

I think when we say the Word of God we have different meanings. God wanted to make sure the evil that His people have committed would be in the Scriptures. It is the truth, un-watered down for people to see what has been committed, by virtually everybody, except Jesus. Even Abraham (at the time Abram) committed crimes and were recorded…prophets of God aren’t sinless just because they are prophets of God.

Peace,
Luigi
 
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