Why did the Reformation fail in Ireland?

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The Reformation came w CROMWELL! My husband was from Ireland. Read the Droughada Massacre. They built priest holes in houses & castles to hide them from persecution & death. Mary, Queen of Scott’s was Catholic. Elizabeth was Anglican. John Calvin made his way through Scotland & they became Presbyterians/Calvanists in the Lowlands. The Highlanders stayed Catholic for awhile.
There was sweet goodness to the Catholic Church years ago. Yes, pockets of evil popped up but Catholicism after St. Patrick, held true for many years.
There’s a Monastery that sits on a lake(?) It has no land showing around it. Life was barren . Sacrificial life styles were lived. Copying the Bible w graphic art work & accuracy, was a function of Monasteries. The Book of KELLS is the four gospels w magnificent art work. Preaching & saving souls, their main function x for cloisters. Gregorian chanting w the Liturgy of the Hours was a practice.
We have lost so much. S.America has a strong Catholic life style. Coming to America for a better life may lose their souls.
God return us to You, where You are in the church. In Jesus name. Amen
 
I’ve been wanting to visit Skellig Michael for years. It looks amazing — but I think now my knees wouldn’t stand the climb!
 
Yes, and I had serious acrophobial vertigo getting to the tiny top of Steeple in the Lakes, so perhaps I’d better forget it.
 
No one lives on the island (is my understanding) so how does one get there? Are there regular ferries?
 
There are regular boat trips from the mainland, but the number is strictly controlled I understand,so as to protect the place.
 
Mm, yes. I think I must reconcile myself to it. I ain’t gonna get there.
 
Come on, Picky, you can do it! (Just don’t be tempted to take selfies while leaning over the edge for a better shot, as some people have been doing to disastrous results.)
 
I bet I could do it.

Unless I fell.

Wait. Is that Luke Skywalker imitator still up there?
 
Netting up to your armpits. Cable all the way. Solid stuff tightly fastened to walk on. What’s the deal. Little old ladies are doing it.
 
steph03 said:
Protestants did well when they had political support… I guess they didn’t get it in Ireland…
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Actually, they did have political support. Ireland by that time was already a colony of England. The Church of Ireland was Anglican; just like the Church of England. Irish Catholics were forced to pay tithes to the Anglican church. So, yes, Protestants had political support in Ireland. Protestantism just never became popular except in Northern Ireland, and it only became popular there because of immigration from Scotland.
 
tomarin said:
Come on, Picky, you can do it! (Just don’t be tempted to take selfies while leaning over the edge for a better shot, as some people have been doing to disastrous results
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I do suffer from acrophobia. I have spent many holidays fell-walking (so modest heights) and at times — like stepping out onto that little arête to Steeple’s summit — the vertigo has been almost too much. I think a long period of vertigo, which Skerrig Michael looks like, would be too much.

And, oh my knees!
 
Sounds like a pretty bad affliction. Have you had vertigo your entire life?
 
I certainly can’t remember a time when I didn’t. But I wouldn’t say it was clinically bad, in fact I’ve got better at calming myself down and beating it. Striding Edge and Swirrel Edge on Helvellyn I’ve managed, and felt very smug as a result. Steeple for some reason was nastier. In fact I shied away on my first attempt and had to come back the next day to beat it.
 
I once read brief part of history of Reformation in Ireland, and basically Irish were not too inclined towards Rome but neither from it. Ireland pre-Reformation was largely split into colonists (English) and natives (Irish). If English tried to attend Irish Church they would get shunned and sometimes not even let in, while vice-versa it was somewhat better but treatment was not ideal either (keep in mind that Liturgies were still in Latin at the time, so it wasn’t language issue). Rome did try to intervene but appeals fell on deaf ears.

However, when Anglicanism came into existence, Irish were not too inclined to abandon their religion (or Church in the begining) to King who they did not respect too much. Later when England got a Queen, Irish Bishops would try to denounce woman leading the Church on grounds that “Even most immaculate and perfect woman, our Lady, was not chosen to lead the Church”. Whenever English tried to oppress the Irish through religious taxes, Irish would eventually push back. In the end Monarchs would just appoint someone to try and convert Irish, but would not support him openly as to not stir rebellion, but neither seem like they are indifferent to Anglican faith to their English subjects. In the end Monarchs just stopped caring about Ireland (they occasionally started caring for some time but then stopped again … rinse and repeat). Anglican Bishops appointed in Ireland would have almost no one to attend their services, would get ousted for Catholic Bishops very often and in the end England had to just make deals with the Irish (which they would then break again).
 
Thanks for that video, unfortunately I have not even been able to see Skellig Michael from shore since the day our group went that way it was in the middle of the hurricane hitting y’all last year and all we saw was a wall of white fog. Needless to say even if we had planned to go out to it, the ferries were not running. We got to see 70 mph winds earlier in the day at another stretch of flat beach where several of us went out and stood in the wind to say we did. I would not want to go on Skellig Michael with any sort of wind blowing at all and as you said I would have to train for months if I were going to do this climb. I might confine myself to watching the video similar to that video someone else posted of people going up a cliff to the Eastern church cut into the side of the rock.
 
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After that climb maybe a 7mile long zip-line ride back to the mainland?? Probably not huh.
I would love to try the climb, but it will not happen.
Dominus vobiscum
 
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