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Steve53,
I saw some of your thoughts in another post and I think I have a clearer understanding of your position.
Again I hold that Jesus was killed by Roman authorities while Stephen’s death was ordered by the High Priest with the Council of 70, without Roman conscent because there were two different political situations separating both events.
First, Jesus died in 33 AD while Pilate was the Prefect of Judea (NB: I’m correcting myself and will now use the title “Prefect” instead of Procurator"). During this time Pilate exercised the sole authority of the Ius Gladii, that is he alone could order captial punishment. The jewish people acknowledege this reality when after Pilate told them they should judge Jesus according to their own laws the jewish people responded, “We do not have the right to execute anyone” (Jn 18: 31). Caiaphas, as High Priest, had to bring Jesus before Pilate to be tried and executed under Roman law - he just did not have the authority to have Jesus stoned.
However, several years later there was a change in Roman authority that, for a time, left a vacuum of power and authority. This vacuum was caused in 36 AD at Passover, when Vitellius, the Roman Legate of Syria and the Transjordan, entered Jerusalem. There he removed Pilate from authority replacing him with one of his officers but this office (Marcellus) no imperial authority to act. At this time Vitellius also removed Caiaphas as High Priest, replacing him with Jonathan and finally he returned the full control of the High-priestly vestments to the high priest himself (Jonathan). Vitellius then left Jerusalem to resume his campaigns against the Parthians.
Leaving Marcellus behind without any imperial authority left a vacuum in authority that Jonathan, as High Priest and the most powerful man in office in Palestine, quickly filled. It was during this time that Stephan was brought before the High Priest and Council of 70, found quilty of blasphemy and stoned. The jewish authorities were able to do this because the was no Roman controling authority to stop them. Jonathan was a very ambitious man and he pushed his new found authority to the limits allowing Saul/Paul to conduct persecutions of the Church outside of Jerusalem as far north as Damascus. This came to an end at Passover of 37 AD when Vitellius removed Jonathan as the High Priest, replacing him with Jonathan’s younger brother: Theophilius.
Steve53, I know you hold Jesus died in 36 AD, rendering my theory wrong. But I have to disagree with your time table for the following reasons.
Part of your bases rest on the writing of Josephus in regards to Herod Antipas’ divorce of the daughter of King Aretas IV king of the Nabateans which lead to the arrest and execution of John the Baptist and the attack on Antipas by Aretas IV. First, Josephus does not make the connection between Antipas’ divorce and John’s arrest. He does state that some held Antipas’ defeat by Aretas IV was punishment by God for John’s death but Josephus does not connect the divorce and John’s arrest. All Josephus says is Antipas feared that John’s preaching would lead to a revolt so he had John arrested and executed. (Ant., 18:117 -119). The only place where there is a definite connection between divorce and John’s death is in the Gospel of Mark.
Also, in 36 AD, Vitellius was not in Jerusalem prior to his campaign against Aretas IV. Vitellius had just finish his fist campaign against the Parthians and was in Jerusalm at the Passover of 36 AD as part of his preparation for his second campaign against the them. Aretas IV waited until the Romans were fully engaged in their struggles with the Parthians before attacking Antipas. In 37 AD, after his campaigns with the Parthians were completed and a peace settlement made, Vitellius turned his attention to Aretas IV. During passover of 37 AD, Vitellius left his two legions, who were marching from Ptolemais to Petra, with Antipas and several others and entered Jerusalem. It was then (Passover of 37 AD) that Vitellius replaced Jonathan as High Priest with Theophilius. Once this was done he proceeded to defeat Aretas IV.
One final note, I just remember reading someplace that Jesus had to died either in 30 AD or 33 AD because those were the only two years Nisan 14 fell on a Friday. But I am doing a terrible thing and trusting my memory. Maybe someone can help me with this.
I saw some of your thoughts in another post and I think I have a clearer understanding of your position.
Again I hold that Jesus was killed by Roman authorities while Stephen’s death was ordered by the High Priest with the Council of 70, without Roman conscent because there were two different political situations separating both events.
First, Jesus died in 33 AD while Pilate was the Prefect of Judea (NB: I’m correcting myself and will now use the title “Prefect” instead of Procurator"). During this time Pilate exercised the sole authority of the Ius Gladii, that is he alone could order captial punishment. The jewish people acknowledege this reality when after Pilate told them they should judge Jesus according to their own laws the jewish people responded, “We do not have the right to execute anyone” (Jn 18: 31). Caiaphas, as High Priest, had to bring Jesus before Pilate to be tried and executed under Roman law - he just did not have the authority to have Jesus stoned.
However, several years later there was a change in Roman authority that, for a time, left a vacuum of power and authority. This vacuum was caused in 36 AD at Passover, when Vitellius, the Roman Legate of Syria and the Transjordan, entered Jerusalem. There he removed Pilate from authority replacing him with one of his officers but this office (Marcellus) no imperial authority to act. At this time Vitellius also removed Caiaphas as High Priest, replacing him with Jonathan and finally he returned the full control of the High-priestly vestments to the high priest himself (Jonathan). Vitellius then left Jerusalem to resume his campaigns against the Parthians.
Leaving Marcellus behind without any imperial authority left a vacuum in authority that Jonathan, as High Priest and the most powerful man in office in Palestine, quickly filled. It was during this time that Stephan was brought before the High Priest and Council of 70, found quilty of blasphemy and stoned. The jewish authorities were able to do this because the was no Roman controling authority to stop them. Jonathan was a very ambitious man and he pushed his new found authority to the limits allowing Saul/Paul to conduct persecutions of the Church outside of Jerusalem as far north as Damascus. This came to an end at Passover of 37 AD when Vitellius removed Jonathan as the High Priest, replacing him with Jonathan’s younger brother: Theophilius.
Steve53, I know you hold Jesus died in 36 AD, rendering my theory wrong. But I have to disagree with your time table for the following reasons.
Part of your bases rest on the writing of Josephus in regards to Herod Antipas’ divorce of the daughter of King Aretas IV king of the Nabateans which lead to the arrest and execution of John the Baptist and the attack on Antipas by Aretas IV. First, Josephus does not make the connection between Antipas’ divorce and John’s arrest. He does state that some held Antipas’ defeat by Aretas IV was punishment by God for John’s death but Josephus does not connect the divorce and John’s arrest. All Josephus says is Antipas feared that John’s preaching would lead to a revolt so he had John arrested and executed. (Ant., 18:117 -119). The only place where there is a definite connection between divorce and John’s death is in the Gospel of Mark.
Also, in 36 AD, Vitellius was not in Jerusalem prior to his campaign against Aretas IV. Vitellius had just finish his fist campaign against the Parthians and was in Jerusalm at the Passover of 36 AD as part of his preparation for his second campaign against the them. Aretas IV waited until the Romans were fully engaged in their struggles with the Parthians before attacking Antipas. In 37 AD, after his campaigns with the Parthians were completed and a peace settlement made, Vitellius turned his attention to Aretas IV. During passover of 37 AD, Vitellius left his two legions, who were marching from Ptolemais to Petra, with Antipas and several others and entered Jerusalem. It was then (Passover of 37 AD) that Vitellius replaced Jonathan as High Priest with Theophilius. Once this was done he proceeded to defeat Aretas IV.
One final note, I just remember reading someplace that Jesus had to died either in 30 AD or 33 AD because those were the only two years Nisan 14 fell on a Friday. But I am doing a terrible thing and trusting my memory. Maybe someone can help me with this.