Why did'nt God warn Adam and Eve?

[Chipper]

I have been thinking lately, about God and Adam And eve.

This is a question that pops up in my mind every now and then. I would appreciate you folks coloring the picture a little.

God told Adam and Eve not to eat of that tree of knowledge of good and evil, but in the bible, it is only one phrase, and really seems to be what one might call an off hand manner.

Why do you suppose God, who knows everything, never gave Adam and Eve a more stern warning, such as “…now the serpent will try to tempt you into eating from it, but don’t listen to him”. He knew the serpent would tempt them, but he never warned them in advance.

Any ideas?

Regards,
Chipper

 

[Orogeny]

Two words - free will.

God told them not to do it. That was enough. They knew it was wrong but they had the free will to choose to do wrong.

Peace

Tim

 

[Chipper]

Two words - free will.

God told them not to do it. That was enough. They knew it was wrong but they had the free will to choose to do wrong.

Peace

Tim

Thanks for answering.

Free will is exactly why I ask, why didn’t God warn them about the temptation of the serpent.

These are two very innocent people, they would have no experience or even a hint, that someone might try and tempt or deceive them.

I doubt if it would even be in their vocabulary.

 

[deb1]

Thanks for answering.

Free will is exactly why I ask, why didn’t God warn them about the temptation of the serpent.

These are two very innocent people, they would have no experience or even a hint, that someone might try and tempt or deceive them.

I doubt if it would even be in their vocabulary.

We don’t know what God’s actual words to Adam and Eve were really. All we know is what the bible reports. God could have given them a fairly intensive speech about Satan and temptation but we don’t know. More could have occurred then the bible reports.

 

[water]

.now the serpent will try to tempt you into eating from it, but don’t listen to him".

Obeying Him is the key. Why didn’t Adam and Eve ask God what if we ate the fruit? Why didn’t they fight the temptation?

The problem is more about us.

 

[LilyM]

We don’t know what God’s actual words to Adam and Eve were really. All we know is what the bible reports. God could have given them a fairly intensive speech about Satan and temptation but we don’t know. More could have occurred then the bible reports.

Au contraire. We know at least some of God’s exact words. ‘On the day you eat of it, you will surely die’. What more warning did they need - especially given that it was coming from the creator of the universe, who would know if anyone would??? Just because Satan told them different is no reason to ignore God’s warning.

 

[cecilia97]

Thanks for answering.

Free will is exactly why I ask, why didn’t God warn them about the temptation of the serpent.

These are two very innocent people, they would have no experience or even a hint, that someone might try and tempt or deceive them.

I doubt if it would even be in their vocabulary.

I can answer this from personal experience. I married a man that was less than good for me. We’re now divorced. For a while, after the breakup, I was upset at friends and family who would say “we always wondered about XYZ” or “I noticed he would do ABC”. They were telling me all this after the fact. I would think…WHY didn’t they say something BEFORE I married him???

Now I know someone who is serious about a guy that I can see some problems with. I mentioned a few concerns to her and she glossed over them because she loves this guy and she believes differently about him.

Some things you just have to learn for yourself, or make the mistakes that come along with the bad decisions. Others can warn you, but if you exercise your free will and take the wrong action, it was still your action. Can’t go blaming the folks who tried to tell you because you didn’t listen.

I wouldn’t have listened to warnings about my ex…I thought I knew him best and loved him. I was set on that course of action. It’s pointless to be upset at family who “could” have warned me. It wouldn’t have made a difference in my decision.

And God went even further in the Garden…he didn’t say “you know, y’all, it might not be such a great idea to eat that fruit, you might want to rethink it”. He said “DON’T DO IT”.

 

[runandsew]

I have been thinking lately, about God and Adam And eve.

This is a question that pops up in my mind every now and then. I would appreciate you folks coloring the picture a little.

God told Adam and Eve not to eat of that tree of knowledge of good and evil, but in the bible, it is only one phrase, and really seems to be what one might call an off hand manner.

Why do you suppose God, who knows everything, never gave Adam and Eve a more stern warning, such as “…now the serpent will try to tempt you into eating from it, but don’t listen to him”. He knew the serpent would tempt them, but he never warned them in advance.

Any ideas?

Regards,
Chipper

The woman answered the serpent: “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden; it is only about the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden that God said, ‘You shall not eat it or even touch it, lest you die.’” But the serpent said to the woman: "You certainly will not die!

This shows that they did indeed know that they would die.
And about being tempted by the serpent, Scott covers this in the following online bible study, something about Adam being tested.
click on the link to read the whole section, it might answer you questions, at least in Scott Hahn’s interpretation.

Here is the link to one of Scott Hahn’s online bible studies

“Genesis to Jesus”
“Why did God test him like this? Because covenant love requires total self-giving. Self-sacrifice is essential to fulfilling the obligations of the human relationship with God.”

 

[Chipper]

The woman answered the serpent: “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden; it is only about the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden that God said, ‘You shall not eat it or even touch it, lest you die.’” But the serpent said to the woman: "You certainly will not die!

This shows that they did indeed know that they would die.
And about being tempted by the serpent, Scott covers this in the following online bible study, something about Adam being tested.
click on the link to read the whole section, it might answer you questions, at least in Scott Hahn’s interpretation.

Here is the link to one of Scott Hahn’s online bible studies

“Genesis to Jesus”
“Why did God test him like this? Because covenant love requires total self-giving. Self-sacrifice is essential to fulfilling the obligations of the human relationship with God.”

Well, Scott Hahn, gave some good insight to what might be going on here. But, it still doesn’t answer my question. In fact this raises more questions.

Let me give an analogy here.

You take your children and place them in the kitchen/breakfast nook. You tell them, they can eat of any of the food around, but they shall not eat of the “Can of Draino”, or they shall surely die.

A little time goes by, and the neighbors come over for a visit. Now you already know, that the neighbor’s kid is going to try and convince your kids, to eat the “can of Draino”. But you let them do it anyways.

Question 1:
So to re-iterate my postion, why didn’t you as a parent warn your children, about the neighbor’s kids?

Question 2:
It also raises another question. Was it the point that they disobeyed the parents that killed them? Or was it the eating of the “can of Draino” that killed them?

I propose that disobeying the parents did not kill them, for they will continually disobey the parent throughout their life, without death. But eating the can of draino does in fact kill them.

Question 3:
Why as a parent did you leave that “can of Draino” in the kitchen in the first place? Analogy - why did God place the Tree of knowledge of good an evil in the garden, if it’s only outcome would be death?

Don’t get me wrong. I am not disputing any Catholic Teaching on this subject (if there is any official declarations). I am rather, looking for deeper insight into what transpired in the garden.

Regards,
Chipper

 

[Chipper]

Here is the link to one of Scott Hahn’s online bible studies

“Genesis to Jesus”
“Why did God test him like this? Because covenant love requires total self-giving. Self-sacrifice is essential to fulfilling the obligations of the human relationship with God.”

Oh, and by the way. What is the point of testing someone that you know will fail the test?

Regards,
Calvin

 

[deb1]

Au contraire. We know at least some of God’s exact words. ‘On the day you eat of it, you will surely die’. What more warning did they need - especially given that it was coming from the creator of the universe, who would know if anyone would??? Just because Satan told them different is no reason to ignore God’s warning.

Well, according to the bible God used to enjoy taking walks in the Garden. Perhaps he spoke with Adam and Eve in more depth during these periods. Simply because we know one particular statements he made doesn’t mean that we know “Everything” that was said. The fact is, we don’t know. But we can rest assured that God knew how much warning was needed to hold the two culpable.

Come on, he is God. He can read out thoughts. Wouldn’t he know how much information that Adam and Eve would be able to understand?

 

[littleone]

Thanks for answering.

Free will is exactly why I ask, why didn’t God warn them about the temptation of the serpent.

These are two very innocent people, they would have no experience or even a hint, that someone might try and tempt or deceive them.

I doubt if it would even be in their vocabulary.

The truth is that they had more than we will ever have because they were given the fullness of God in a human form. How do we know, well because Adam and Eve were like Jesus and Mary. Jesus and Mary we know were full of grace, (no sin). God however had warned them tha they were not to touch the fruit, because they were full of grace they had more ability to not sin than we do.
They lived in that place of purfect peace. they had Angels roaming the fields, they had the animals roaming freely with no fear. We know that animals attack because of fear, there was non in that time. The ground gave way to the best fruit, how do we know becaues there was no sin. And we could go on for ever.

God bless
littleone

 

[Chipper]

Well, according to the bible God used to enjoy taking walks in the Garden. Perhaps he spoke with Adam and Eve in more depth during these periods. Simply because we know one particular statements he made doesn’t mean that we know “Everything” that was said. The fact is, we don’t know. But we can rest assured that God knew how much warning was needed to hold the two culpable.

Come on, he is God. He can read out thoughts. Wouldn’t he know how much information that Adam and Eve would be able to understand?

This is the kind of thing I’m looking for, your on the right tract, but, I NEED INFO.

For instance, I used to have real trouble understanding the book of Job, until I read St. Thomas Aquinas’s dissertation on the book. He was quite capable of extracting, an enormous amount of heavenly philosophy, from a single sentence, from the scripture. It was very impressive. The guy definately had a direct line into “Heavenly” meanings of language, and suggestions.

I think there is a lot of “heavenly” insight waiting to be unfolded from these scriptures, about Adam and Eve.

Regards,
Chipper

 

[mlchance]

Oh, and by the way. What is the point of testing someone that you know will fail the test?

So that they learn that I was right and that they should’ve paid more attention in class.

– Mark L. Chance.

 

[Marilena]

I have been thinking lately, about God and Adam And eve.

This is a question that pops up in my mind every now and then. I would appreciate you folks coloring the picture a little.

God told Adam and Eve not to eat of that tree of knowledge of good and evil, but in the bible, it is only one phrase, and really seems to be what one might call an off hand manner.

Why do you suppose God, who knows everything, never gave Adam and Eve a more stern warning, such as “…now the serpent will try to tempt you into eating from it, but don’t listen to him”. He knew the serpent would tempt them, but he never warned them in advance.

Regards,
Chipper

He did warn them. He said that in the day when they eat that fruit they would die. That is fair enough warning.

 

[baltobetsy]

First of all, Adam and Eve, before the fall, did not have to contend with the darkened intellect that we have as a result of original sin. They didn’t need stuff spelled out for them and repeated as we sometimes do. The command was sufficient for them. It was their free will that caused their downfall.

The second reason is paradoxical. The Church sings it in the Exsultet during the Easter Vigil: “O happy fault, O necessary sin of Adam, that won for us so great a Redeemer!” Without the sin of Adam and Eve, the role of Jesus would have been very different. He would have come into a world of perfect people to increase the love that was already there for the Father. How much more does it show the love of God for us that He had to send His Son to *suffer and die *for our sins? God’s love is unchanging, but our understanding of it is capable of being increased. Had the fall and the redemption never happened, we would have only a theoretical knowledge of this self-sacrificing love of God. But since it did happen, we have direct, first-hand knowledge of this great Love.

Betsy

 

[cheeto1]

I have been thinking lately, about God and Adam And eve.

This is a question that pops up in my mind every now and then. I would appreciate you folks coloring the picture a little.

God told Adam and Eve not to eat of that tree of knowledge of good and evil, but in the bible, it is only one phrase, and really seems to be what one might call an off hand manner.

Why do you suppose God, who knows everything, never gave Adam and Eve a more stern warning, such as “…now the serpent will try to tempt you into eating from it, but don’t listen to him”. He knew the serpent would tempt them, but he never warned them in advance.

Any ideas?

Regards,
Chipper

I think your question is a good one, and hasn’t been
adequately answered here. I would take it a step further
and say that if God knew that the devil would cause
such harm, why did He create him in the first place?
Only God knows what He’s up to, but we have to trust
that it’s so great that it’s worth all this. I guess maybe
we are still looking for a “tree of the knowledge of good
and evil” to eat from, but there just isn’t one any more.
And even if there was, we already know not to eat from it.
We can’t do anything but trust God and obey Him in
every chance we get.

 

[Chipper]

They lived in that place of purfect peace. they had Angels roaming the fields, they had the animals roaming freely with no fear. We know that animals attack because of fear, there was non in that time. The ground gave way to the best fruit, how do we know becaues there was no sin. And we could go on for ever.

God bless
littleone

Hmmm. I don’t know about it being a perfect place.

After all, you have the Tree that causes death. You have the serpent trying to tempt you to death. And you have Adam and Eve commiting the grave sin, there in paradise. Doesn’t sound like a perfect place to me.

Regards,
Calvin

 

[Chipper]

So that they learn that I was right and that they should’ve paid more attention in class.

– Mark L. Chance.

 

[Chipper]

They didn’t need stuff spelled out for them and repeated as we sometimes do. The command was sufficient for them.Betsy

If it were sufficient, then why did they disobey? It seems to me, that if it were sufficient for me, I wouldn’t do it. Something else was occuring here. Maybe Scott Hahn has it right - maybe Adam was scared to death.

The second reason is paradoxical. The Church sings it in the Exsultet during the Easter Vigil: “O happy fault, O necessary sin of Adam, that won for us so great a Redeemer!” Without the sin of Adam and Eve, the role of Jesus would have been very different.
Betsy

I remember this prayer. I view this as being necessary for understanding the sacrifice of Christ. I don’t think I view it as being necessary in an absolute manner.

Regards,
Calvin