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Salena
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I asked the apologists this question, but have yet to get a response. It just hit me the other day that Jesus never did baptize anyone! Can anyone tell me why?
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Gina
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Friar_David_O.Carm
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Findnmway:
I think there are two answers for this.
- Jesus was not of the tribe of Levi (I think thats the one) like St John the Baptist was. St John, his cousin, baptized.
- How do we know that Jesus did not baptize anyone? While it is true the the scriptures do not say he did they also say that they do not hold the entirety of Jesus’ ministry. As said at the end of the Gospel of St John says…
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facedown
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Just to clarify, Jesus was both in the line of Judah and Levi.
Good question though. A lot isn’t recorded that we can speculate on. Christ submitted Himself to the Will of the Father and recieved the water baptism. This practice goes back to the Temple and Tabernacle practices with the bronze wash basin/laver.
I too like that passage from John, but its speaking after His ressurection, correct? I do not believe that Christ baptized anyone in water. I have several reasons, but no Scripture to back it up right now, so I will keep it to myself. Until then,
Peace.
Good question though. A lot isn’t recorded that we can speculate on. Christ submitted Himself to the Will of the Father and recieved the water baptism. This practice goes back to the Temple and Tabernacle practices with the bronze wash basin/laver.
I too like that passage from John, but its speaking after His ressurection, correct? I do not believe that Christ baptized anyone in water. I have several reasons, but no Scripture to back it up right now, so I will keep it to myself. Until then,
Peace.
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metal1633
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Joh 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
Joh 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,
Joh 4:2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)
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I think it quite certain that Jesus DID Baptize. At least He baptized His Disciples and then they began doing it.
Even so. “Jesus made and baptized more disciples” As a Sacrament, Baptism is a work of Christ. And just like today it is US , His Disciples who Baptize in His Name. The same can be said of the Feeding of the 5000 and the Eucharist.
Mat 14:19 And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to his disciples, and the disciples to the multitude.
He feed them. He Blessed the Bread and gave it to His Disciples to give to the Poeple.
Joh 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,
Joh 4:2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)
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I think it quite certain that Jesus DID Baptize. At least He baptized His Disciples and then they began doing it.
Even so. “Jesus made and baptized more disciples” As a Sacrament, Baptism is a work of Christ. And just like today it is US , His Disciples who Baptize in His Name. The same can be said of the Feeding of the 5000 and the Eucharist.
Mat 14:19 And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to his disciples, and the disciples to the multitude.
He feed them. He Blessed the Bread and gave it to His Disciples to give to the Poeple.
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facedown
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I stand corrected! Just read John 3. Awesome testimony from the John the Baptist too on this matter.
Thats why its important to speak a bunch of assumptions before your ready to show from Sripture what your talking about. Glad I kept my mouth shut…
Very good, thanks!
Thats why its important to speak a bunch of assumptions before your ready to show from Sripture what your talking about. Glad I kept my mouth shut…
Very good, thanks!
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Pug
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I would like to post a few scriptures. They are also from the gospel of John.
John 3:22 After this, Jesus and his disciples went into the region of Judea, where he spent some time with them baptizing.
John 4:1 Now when Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus was making and baptizing more disciples than John 2 (although Jesus himself was not baptizing, just his disciples),
Sometimes I have wondered what type of baptism was being done by the disciples here. Perhaps something just like John the Baptist was doing, so it was just plain water and a promise to repent?
Did the disciples baptize anyone with the modern baptism (the sacrament kind) before pentecost? Or was it all after Jesus died and the HS descended that people were baptized in the name of Jesus and received the HS. I think of that first speech in Acts by St. Peter on Pentecost when there were maybe 3000 people baptized that day:
Acts 2:37 Peter (said) to them, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the holy Spirit.
Were these the first ones “baptized”, on the day when the HS publicly came down?
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SPOKENWORD
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John baptized in water,Jesus baptised in spirit. 
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Salena
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Excuse my ingnorance, but what does being Levi and Judah have to do with it?
Thanks for the help. It makes sense. If I get a reply from the apologists I’ll post it here.
Thanks!
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Br.Rich_SFO
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As Pug notes no Sacramental water Baptisms took place before Pentecost. The only place in Scripture where Jesus could be said to Baptize the Apostles is at the “washing of the feet”. This idea would be taken from the exchange with Peter.
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tmore35
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Sacramental baptism is a unites us with Jesus Christ through His Paschal Mystery. It is through His death and resurrection that we are gifted sacramental grace and a new life through Him.
Romans, 6.:
“Are you aware that we who were baptised into Christ were baptised into His death? We were indeed buried with him through baptism into death so that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might live in the newness of life.”
Jesus did not baptise because it is through His death and resurrection that we receive the sanctifying, sacramental grace of baptism and all the sacraments. He could not bestow sacramental baptism during His lifetime because these events had not yet occured.
Jesus, in essence, baptised all humankind in His dying and rising. The sacramental baptism we experience is a re-enactment of those crucial events. And, we receive the saving grace that was bestowed at the time of their happening.
Pax et Bonum!
Romans, 6.:
“Are you aware that we who were baptised into Christ were baptised into His death? We were indeed buried with him through baptism into death so that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might live in the newness of life.”
Jesus did not baptise because it is through His death and resurrection that we receive the sanctifying, sacramental grace of baptism and all the sacraments. He could not bestow sacramental baptism during His lifetime because these events had not yet occured.
Jesus, in essence, baptised all humankind in His dying and rising. The sacramental baptism we experience is a re-enactment of those crucial events. And, we receive the saving grace that was bestowed at the time of their happening.
Pax et Bonum!
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Matt16_18
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Exactly!
It is in John’s Gospel that we read that Jesus never baptized before he resurrected from the dead. John also gives us the reason why this is so:I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.
John 16:7
Jesus said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping? Whom do you seek?” Supposing him to be the gardener, she said to him, “Sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have laid him, and I will take him away.”
Jesus said to her, “Mary.” She turned and said to him in Hebrew, “Rabboni!” (which means Teacher). Jesus said to her, “Do not hold me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.”
John 20:15-17
Mary Magdalene was clinging to Jesus so that he would not leave her. But Jesus knew that it would be better for Mary Magdalene if he were to ascend to the Father, because then she could receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Likewise, the Apostles were mystified as to why Jesus had to leave them. Jesus told them that it was to their advantage if he left them, because if he did not leave them, the Holy Spirit would not come to them.
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