Why do all the non catholic christians believe that catholics are going to burn in Hell?

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As far as I know the Catholic Church was the church who printed the bible on paper. NOT the baptist, pentecostal, evangelical, united church, ect. I grew up pentecostal and they taught me that God wrote the bible and at 7 years old I assumed that God had literally wrote the bible himself and dropped it on earth :hmmm: . Then again at 10 I am thinking to myself if looking at God would kill us couldn’t reading something that he wrote by his own hand at least make us blind? So I read the bible at 10 years old (the 66 book version) and as I read the points of view change throughout the bible. The bible talked more about the person talking to God than God talking to the people (that kind of made no sense 🤷) I mean God is on almost every single page dont get me wrong but it seems more like people are doing something and God comes to them. So at that point it seemed to me that people in the bible had wrote the bible. That was my conclusion for a while until I noticed that even though it was about that person it seem that it was never told in the first person. It seemed more like someone was there recording what happened. Mind you not every book was like that some did seem to be written by the person who wrote it but not all of them. I have to say that after all of that I can conclude that the bible was written by man and that the catholic church was the actual church who put it all together. I heard a lot of fundamentalists say that Catholics added 7 books to the bible. logically thinking no I am pretty sure someone (people say Luther others say someone else) took those 7 out so Catholics didn’t add or take away to it. That is just one thing but like there are so many more things. I just used the bible as an example that the bible itself is not a strong basis for faith. The catholic church can trace its roots straight to Jesus. Lutherans to Marrtin Luther, Anglicans to King Henry the VIII, Mormons to Joseph Smith, and so on. The current church I am at is a very very newly found one. Around 30 years old and why? Because everyone has interpreted the bible differently. Goodness that is so confusing :confused: I was reading about the assumption of Mary because my little brother asked me about it and I needed more information and someone asked where in the Bible does it say that Mary was assumed to heaven. Another person answered it is something they made it up to make Mary more powerful than God :banghead: I am sorry but who is tellng these people these lies? I know at church they tell us some misconceptions but I was never told by any evangelical preacher that that was what catholics taught. I know that they are all untrue but so many believe them to be true and I really wonder why they think so.
 
As far as I know the Catholic Church was the church who printed the bible on paper. NOT the baptist, pentecostal, evangelical, united church, ect. I grew up pentecostal and they taught me that God wrote the bible and at 7 years old I assumed that God had literally wrote the bible himself and dropped it on earth :hmmm: . Then again at 10 I am thinking to myself if looking at God would kill us couldn’t reading something that he wrote by his own hand at least make us blind? So I read the bible at 10 years old (the 66 book version) and as I read the points of view change throughout the bible. The bible talked more about the person talking to God than God talking to the people (that kind of made no sense 🤷) I mean God is on almost every single page dont get me wrong but it seems more like people are doing something and God comes to them. So at that point it seemed to me that people in the bible had wrote the bible. That was my conclusion for a while until I noticed that even though it was about that person it seem that it was never told in the first person. It seemed more like someone was there recording what happened. Mind you not every book was like that some did seem to be written by the person who wrote it but not all of them. I have to say that after all of that I can conclude that the bible was written by man and that the catholic church was the actual church who put it all together. I heard a lot of fundamentalists say that Catholics added 7 books to the bible. logically thinking no I am pretty sure someone (people say Luther others say someone else) took those 7 out so Catholics didn’t add or take away to it. That is just one thing but like there are so many more things. I just used the bible as an example that the bible itself is not a strong basis for faith. The catholic church can trace its roots straight to Jesus. Lutherans to Marrtin Luther, Anglicans to King Henry the VIII, Mormons to Joseph Smith, and so on. The current church I am at is a very very newly found one. Around 30 years old and why? Because everyone has interpreted the bible differently. Goodness that is so confusing :confused: I was reading about the assumption of Mary because my little brother asked me about it and I needed more information and someone asked where in the Bible does it say that Mary was assumed to heaven. Another person answered it is something they made it up to make Mary more powerful than God :banghead: I am sorry but who is tellng these people these lies? I know at church they tell us some misconceptions but I was never told by any evangelical preacher that that was what catholics taught. I know that they are all untrue but so many believe them to be true and I really wonder why they think so.
Well thankfully, a majority of Protestants do not think that Catholics are hellbound pagans. But almost all of them with whom I come in contact are gravely misinformed about the Church. I think part of it just goes back to the History of the country. In the days of colonisation the pilgrims fled to New England because they loathed the Church of England, why? Because it was too “Catholic”. The Southern colonies were elitists loyal to the Crown and the English Church, which resented and persecuted Catholics, and the Middle colonies were incredibly Quaker. Catholicism was connected with monarchy too, and unpatriotic after the Revolutionary War. Then in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s Irish, Polish, Italian, and Eastern Europeans poured into the US-all almost exclusively Catholic. Catholicism was seen as a foreigner’s religion, and even as the second and third generation immigrants were citizens, the idea that white, Anglo-Saxon, Protestants were the only “real” Americans and lies were perpetuated to uphold this idea and scare Protestants from interacting with Catholics so they wouldn’t see through the bs. These lies have still been past down, and many Protestants still believe them. Plus today’s secular media isn’t fond of the Church either, considering her stance on pornography, fornication, divorce, contraception, and the endless list of sins being not only accepted but encouraged by the media.
That’s my theory, anyway 🙂
 
Bishop Fulton Sheen once said that “there aren’t 100 people in the world who truly hate the Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they perceive to be the Catholic Church.” Ignorance of what the Church really teaches is probably the short answer to your question.

People trust what they have been told about the Church because the people who told them were preachers or good people who they knew didn’t deliberately say untrue things. It is hard to convince someone in that situation to trust what a stranger says or what they read in books or articles or blog posts when they place so much more trust in the people who they learned from. This is why we really need to be careful about “bearing false witness.”
 
I come from a Methodist background and I can honestly say that they did not consider the Catholic Church one way or the other. It was almost as if it didn’t even exist. In fact, they spoke more negatively about the Church of England’s history than anything to do with Catholicism. Now that I am Catholic, I have found that many Evangelicals, Baptists, and Pentecostals do believe that we are all going to hell. Most of what I have heard is this: we worship Mary, we worship the Pope, we go to a priest for absolution, it is a pagan mystery religion. This is the majority of what I have heard. I have found that the denominations who require their clergy to have a certain level of formal education (Anglicans, Methodists, Episcopalians, etc.) tend to NOT think that we are going to hell. Just my personal observations.
 
Not all protestants believe that at all, however, those that do probably believe it because they have accepted a religion that teaches that Catholics are not Christian. This is based on an errored and completely human interpretation of Scripture as well as bias that stems from centuries of social and political beliefs.

It’s foolish when Protestants say that their faith is correct because it is based on Scripture. All Christian faiths are based on Scripture and they are all different. This unfortunate situation if obvious to anyone who looks at it honestly. So, why are all these Churches teaching different beliefs? Obviously, because they are interpreting the same Scripture differently. What is more, the followers of these faiths are submitting themselves to those interpretations, despite their protests that they are “free-thinkers”.

(I can never understand these folks that laugh at Catholics and say, “I would never just blindly follow some old man in a funny hat.” So, instead they follow a young man in a suit and alot of hair gel?🤷)

Anyway, these interpretations are profoundly different, and they can’t all be right. So, how do you know which one is right? Who has the authority to interpret Scripture? Who is protected from human error by the Holy Spirit? This is what every Christian has to answer for themself. I personally think that Scripture, history, and reason all point to the guy in the pointy hat.
 
confusedgirl you are very wise beyond your years! I hope the Holy Spirit continues to fill you with the wisdom, courage and strength you need to seek the truth for yourself.

God Bless!

Much Peace!

Mike 🙂
 
Not all of us believe in blanket damnation for everyone.
 
Confused, there are many non-Catholic Christians who do not believe that “Catholics go to hell.” Generally, evangelicals who lean toward fundamentalism tend to think this way. But many evangelicals do have issues with some doctrinal beliefs of the Catholic Church, which they regard as having veered over time from biblical truth. Catholic dogmas about Mary would be a one of those areas that Catholics and evangelicals would strongly disagree.

As for the whole issue of the Bible and God “writing it,” I think you are confusing “penning” the Bible with “inspiring” the men who penned it. God “wrote” the Bible in the sense that He inspired men to put His truth to paper. Yet it was men who actually wrote the words down. As 2 Tim. 3:16 states, “All scripture is God-breathed …”.
 
I was reading about the assumption of Mary because my little brother asked me about it and I needed more information and someone asked where in the Bible does it say that Mary was assumed to heaven.
You might want to verify this with a priest, but I’m pretty sure Catholicism gets the Assumption of Mary from Revelation 12. The child who will rule is Jesus and therefore the woman is Mary, who happens to be in heaven and clothed with the sun.
 
As for the whole issue of the Bible and God “writing it,” I think you are confusing “penning” the Bible with “inspiring” the men who penned it. God “wrote” the Bible in the sense that He inspired men to put His truth to paper. Yet it was men who actually wrote the words down. As 2 Tim. 3:16 states, “All scripture is God-breathed …”.
Confused is correct in saying that the Catholic Church gave us the bible. Guided by the Holy Spirit the bishops of the Catholic Church recognized which books were inspired and which books were not.

Take a look at the Acts of the Apostles. Who wrote that book? If you believe Luke did then why? The bible doesn’t say that.* Acts* doesn’t say it is inspired.
The belief that Luke wrote Acts and it is inspired comes from the Catholic Church guided by the Holy Spirit into all Truth.
 
You might want to verify this with a priest, but I’m pretty sure Catholicism gets the Assumption of Mary from Revelation 12. The child who will rule is Jesus and therefore the woman is Mary, who happens to be in heaven and clothed with the sun.
We don’t necessarily “get it” from Sacred Scripture but also from Sacred Tradition. We don’t believe in Scripture alone.
 
As far as I know the Catholic Church was the church who printed the bible on paper. NOT the baptist, pentecostal, evangelical, united church, ect. I grew up pentecostal and they taught me that God wrote the bible and at 7 years old I assumed that God had literally wrote the bible himself and dropped it on earth :hmmm: . Then again at 10 I am thinking to myself if looking at God would kill us couldn’t reading something that he wrote by his own hand at least make us blind? So I read the bible at 10 years old (the 66 book version) and as I read the points of view change throughout the bible. The bible talked more about the person talking to God than God talking to the people (that kind of made no sense 🤷) I mean God is on almost every single page dont get me wrong but it seems more like people are doing something and God comes to them. So at that point it seemed to me that people in the bible had wrote the bible. That was my conclusion for a while until I noticed that even though it was about that person it seem that it was never told in the first person. It seemed more like someone was there recording what happened. Mind you not every book was like that some did seem to be written by the person who wrote it but not all of them. I have to say that after all of that I can conclude that the bible was written by man and that the catholic church was the actual church who put it all together. I heard a lot of fundamentalists say that Catholics added 7 books to the bible. logically thinking no I am pretty sure someone (people say Luther others say someone else) took those 7 out so Catholics didn’t add or take away to it. That is just one thing but like there are so many more things. I just used the bible as an example that the bible itself is not a strong basis for faith. The catholic church can trace its roots straight to Jesus. Lutherans to Marrtin Luther, Anglicans to King Henry the VIII, Mormons to Joseph Smith, and so on. The current church I am at is a very very newly found one. Around 30 years old and why? Because everyone has interpreted the bible differently. Goodness that is so confusing :confused: I was reading about the assumption of Mary because my little brother asked me about it and I needed more information and someone asked where in the Bible does it say that Mary was assumed to heaven. Another person answered it is something they made it up to make Mary more powerful than God :banghead: I am sorry but who is tellng these people these lies? I know at church they tell us some misconceptions but I was never told by any evangelical preacher that that was what catholics taught. I know that they are all untrue but so many believe them to be true and I really wonder why they think so.
Confusedgirl,

Regarding the Assumption of our Blessed Mother: (2 Kings 2:11) And as they went on, walking and talking together, behold a fiery chariot, and fiery horses parted them both asunder: and Elias went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
If God Our Father, took Elijah straight to Heaven body and soul, how much More the Blessed Virgin Mary the Mother of Jesus Christ, being assumed into heaven body and soul. Amen Not all things/miracles are written in the New Testament, because the world would not be able to contain it. This is why Our Lord left His Church. This goes to show that God can do all things. Amen

Confusedgirl, Yes there is holy Scripture but What Jesus Christ left us is His Church He founded over 2000 years ago, Yes the Church that compiled the New Testament is the only Church that has the Authority to explain it to us, and the only Church we must adhere to. Amen

Confusedgirl, you are not so confused as you think you are.

Ufam Tobie
 
Well thankfully, a majority of Protestants do not think that Catholics are hellbound pagans. But almost all of them with whom I come in contact are gravely misinformed about the Church. I think part of it just goes back to the History of the country. In the days of colonisation the pilgrims fled to New England because they loathed the Church of England, why? Because it was too “Catholic”. The Southern colonies were elitists loyal to the Crown and the English Church, which resented and persecuted Catholics, and the Middle colonies were incredibly Quaker. Catholicism was connected with monarchy too, and unpatriotic after the Revolutionary War. Then in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s Irish, Polish, Italian, and Eastern Europeans poured into the US-all almost exclusively Catholic. Catholicism was seen as a foreigner’s religion, and even as the second and third generation immigrants were citizens, the idea that white, Anglo-Saxon, Protestants were the only “real” Americans and lies were perpetuated to uphold this idea and scare Protestants from interacting with Catholics so they wouldn’t see through the bs. These lies have still been past down, and many Protestants still believe them. Plus today’s secular media isn’t fond of the Church either, considering her stance on pornography, fornication, divorce, contraception, and the endless list of sins being not only accepted but encouraged by the media.
That’s my theory, anyway 🙂
Yeah there is that too. I mean I find nothing wrong with religion. I find people are just trying to find fault with everything because if it comes to giving up sins theyd much rather have their short lived lifetime at sin because sin is there to physically see and touch but faith is too blind.
 
Bishop Fulton Sheen once said that “there aren’t 100 people in the world who truly hate the Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they perceive to be the Catholic Church.” Ignorance of what the Church really teaches is probably the short answer to your question.

People trust what they have been told about the Church because the people who told them were preachers or good people who they knew didn’t deliberately say untrue things. It is hard to convince someone in that situation to trust what a stranger says or what they read in books or articles or blog posts when they place so much more trust in the people who they learned from. This is why we really need to be careful about “bearing false witness.”
Yeah I can confirm that one. When I was going to catholic school my mom told me a bunch of lies about the church and for a while I though they were true cuz at the time we went to a baptist church and well I guess that’s what I thought. Even when I went to religion class and learned the truth I guess at times I was a little arrogant to it. I didn’t fullt learn about the faith till I was 15 or 16 so I guess that is a big part of it too
 
Yeah I can confirm that one. When I was going to catholic school my mom told me a bunch of lies about the church and for a while I though they were true cuz at the time we went to a baptist church and well I guess that’s what I thought. Even when I went to religion class and learned the truth I guess at times I was a little arrogant to it. I didn’t fullt learn about the faith till I was 15 or 16 so I guess that is a big part of it too
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I come from a Methodist background and I can honestly say that they did not consider the Catholic Church one way or the other. It was almost as if it didn’t even exist. In fact, they spoke more negatively about the Church of England’s history than anything to do with Catholicism. Now that I am Catholic, I have found that many Evangelicals, Baptists, and Pentecostals do believe that we are all going to hell. Most of what I have heard is this: we worship Mary, we worship the Pope, we go to a priest for absolution, it is a pagan mystery religion. This is the majority of what I have heard. I have found that the denominations who require their clergy to have a certain level of formal education (Anglicans, Methodists, Episcopalians, etc.) tend to NOT think that we are going to hell. Just my personal observations.
Yeah its pretty bad and its because there are pastors up at the front telling them these lies like if you are a part of a catholic church you with burn in hell or whatever. I’ve been to 2 churches like that. My mom knows I’m trying to convert but whenever she sees something inthe news about the catholic church she teases me for it. It can be something as small as loud church bells or big like a child molesting scandal. I’ve done my research and I don’t understand that either. There are some pastors that have done things just as bad as that or even worse. For example I was at a church where the pastor who was in his forties was having an affair with a church member who was 18 years old. My mom called them out and destroyed the church like it doesnt exist anymore. These scandals aren’t exclusive to the church either most happen within families or in schools or on sports teams and yet nobody criticizes that. But its sad that Christians would bring down other christians
 
Not all protestants believe that at all, however, those that do probably believe it because they have accepted a religion that teaches that Catholics are not Christian. This is based on an errored and completely human interpretation of Scripture as well as bias that stems from centuries of social and political beliefs.

It’s foolish when Protestants say that their faith is correct because it is based on Scripture. All Christian faiths are based on Scripture and they are all different. This unfortunate situation if obvious to anyone who looks at it honestly. So, why are all these Churches teaching different beliefs? Obviously, because they are interpreting the same Scripture differently. What is more, the followers of these faiths are submitting themselves to those interpretations, despite their protests that they are “free-thinkers”.

(I can never understand these folks that laugh at Catholics and say, “I would never just blindly follow some old man in a funny hat.” So, instead they follow a young man in a suit and alot of hair gel?🤷)

Anyway, these interpretations are profoundly different, and they can’t all be right. So, how do you know which one is right? Who has the authority to interpret Scripture? Who is protected from human error by the Holy Spirit? This is what every Christian has to answer for themself. I personally think that Scripture, history, and reason all point to the guy in the pointy hat.
Haha of course in fact I once had a pastor who didn’t go to bible college preached some very skewered scriptures and people believed him. Not everybody some people have sense but oh my was it bad. And yes protestant evangelicals and fundamentalist ect are so hypocritical
 
confusedgirl you are very wise beyond your years! I hope the Holy Spirit continues to fill you with the wisdom, courage and strength you need to seek the truth for yourself.

God Bless!

Much Peace!

Mike 🙂
Thank you very much Mike. God :blessyou:
 
I’ve seen this line of thinking from some Born-Again Christians.
 
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