Well, if you want to use that as your argument that Purgatory doesn’t exist, I can use this argument:
Because he was only speaking of our final destiny, which will be either heaven or hell. The good news is that if you make it to purgatory, your final destiny will be heaven. Purgatory will cease, heaven and hell are for eternity.
That’s easy. Because good works are more important than faith alone. A Buddhist can be saved even though he may not have the Catholic faith.
cause he mentions it a million other places ?
Actually those are places, and while contrary to practice purgatory is not a place. It is a state of existence. The state takes place not in hell nor in heaven, so the question how can it not have an" address", a place also ? Of course Jesus does not mention this state of existence either. He does mention judgement and cleansing and everything needing an “accounting”. So now is Calvary and His shed blood and the many sacraments and their proper understanding enough as far as purity /cleansing,accounting ? As for judgement the righteous have their own, and it is their works in Christ that are rewarded or taken away. Yet they are already written in the lambs book of life
because we believe in a God who is not only merciful but just. Also depending on how you define “Bible” there are Scriptural verses that clearly point to the doctrine of purgatory.The Bible proclaims there is only Heaven and Hell.
Thank you all for your answers.
Yes but the one instance (Mac?) the folks did a mortal sin, with the idols ,so not sure it is a good example for the doctrine, but for sure the people in Maccabees thought it was a good idea. Just doesn’t make it infallible doctrine.There are many things said and done in the bible, even by righteous folk, that we can not make a doctrine of (and mainly because what is said/written in other places).
and it is always better to depend on what we know for sure, where there is more universal light , on Calvary and His shed blood and full forgiveness of sins .…because if it is not true, a whole lot of people are in a whole lot of trouble…
Forgiveness yes. But we need to cooperate and say yes. . .and we also need to repair the damage we do as part of that cooperation.
Exactly my point.
No my point was it should be mentioned somewhere. Purgatory is not mentioned anywyhere. The best you can say is that trinity is not there also. Just that heaven and hell are much written and hence are "named’’.
yes we cooperate with believing it.This is the work of God… .
yes , and it is Jesus that saves us still.
Totally agree. I feel purgatory (as “practiced”) dismisses much scripture. Purgatory as in strict definition, by itself, a sort of judgement is more scriptural , but still stretching.
for another thread, but we are all Royal Priests.Interpretation is not private to an individual nor a church.
.Yes agree but what is the Holy Spirit , only given to an authority person? .
A Wedding is “named” but there are a million things involved before you get to the… I dos, and the reception.
Correct, belief is a work. It requires faith and works to believe.
Sure it is, just not by that name.
In his book, Why Do We Reject Purgatory?, Coptic Orthodox Pope Shenouda III presents many theological and biblical arguments against Purgatory, and why Orthodox do not officially accept Purgatory.
Where does the Bible mention that something should be mentioned somewhere in the Bible? Can you quote me book, chapter, and verse? If not, your implication that “it should be mentioned somewhere” does not follow since it also “is not mentioned anywhere.”
Part of that is because the name “Purgatory” didn’t exist until the 12th century. It comes from the Latin purgatorium. So you’re looking through 1st century texts for a word that didn’t exist until the 12th century.
Here’s a great link that someone posted earlier which may help answer your question about how the beliefs can be reconciled: