Why do Catholics distrust Muslims?

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All women whether Catholic or not should distrust Islam!!

10 November 2011 Last updated at 10:10 ET
EU censors own film on Afghan women prisonersBy Orla Guerin

BBC News, Kabul

The European Union has blocked the release of a documentary on Afghan women who are in jail for so-called “moral crimes”.

The EU says it decided to withdraw the film - which it commissioned and paid for - because of “very real concerns for the safety of the women portrayed”.

However, human rights workers say the injustice in the Afghan judicial system should be exposed.

Half of Afghanistan’s women prisoners are inmates for “zina” or moral crimes.

A statement from the EU’s Kabul delegation said the welfare of the women was the paramount consideration in its decision.

No official from the delegation was prepared to be interviewed about the film.

No new dawn

Some of the women convicted of “zina” are guilty of nothing more than running away from forced marriages or violent husbands.

Human rights activists say hundreds of those behind bars are victims of domestic violence.

Amnesty International says it is important to “lift the lid on one of Afghanistan’s most shameful judicial practices”.

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You hear the story again and again of women going to the police and asking for help and ending up in prison instead”
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Heather Barr

Human Rights Watch
The documentary told the story of a 19-year-old prisoner called Gulnaz.

After she was raped, she was charged with adultery. Her baby girl, born following the rape, is serving her sentence with her.

“At first my sentence was two years,” Gulnaz said, as her baby coughed in her arms. “When I appealed it became 12 years. I didn’t do anything. Why should I be sentenced for so long?”

Stories like hers are tragically typical, according to Heather Barr, of Human Rights Watch, who is carrying out research among Afghan female prisoners.

“It would be reassuring to think that the stories told in this film represent aberrations or extreme case,” she said. “Unfortunately that couldn’t be further from the truth.”

She has interviewed many women behind bars, who were victims twice over - abused by their husbands, or relatives, and then by those who were supposed to protect them.

“You hear the story again and again of women going to the police and asking for help and ending up in prison instead,” Ms Barr said.

A decade after the Taliban were overthrown, Afghan women are still waiting for justice, campaigners say.

Ms Barr said: “It’s very important that people understand that there are these horrific stories that are happening now - 10 years after the fall of the Taliban government, 10 years after what was supposed to be a new dawn for Afghan women.”

For many that new dawn has not come, but for Gulnaz there is now the hope of freedom.

Her name is on a list of women to be pardoned, according to a prison official, but as she has no lawyer, the paperwork has yet to be processed.

Gulnaz’s pardon may be in the works because she has agreed - after 18 months of resisting - to marry her rapist.

“I need my daughter to have a father,” she said.
 
do not see to the muslims in theese days they get away by far from their religion …so
Because the only language that everyone can understand is the language of science; away from the emotions; away from history … Why there is no talk here about miracles of the Koran and the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad? you will find it wonderfull and you will see the origine and the reality of islam ,take it by the sciece language ,this religion is all right ;;;;;;;;;;;;
bye bye see you later and sory about my absent
do not forget take it by the sciece language
peace be upon you (salam alikom our brothers and sisters)
The arguments to this effect that I have seen are not convincing. They depend on elaborate interpretations of the Arabic to try to make the Qur’an foreshadow modern science. If Muslims had come up with these interpretations before modern scientific development provided a base for them, then you would have an interesting case. But as far as I know that didn’t happen, even once. So there’s really no case.

Fundamentalist Christians do this too. They claim that because Isaiah speaks of the “circle of the earth” therefore the Bible teaches that the world is round (they seem to miss the difference between “round” and “spherical”). I don’t find their arguments convincing for the same reasons.

Edwin
 
The arguments to this effect that I have seen are not convincing. They depend on elaborate interpretations of the Arabic to try to make the Qur’an foreshadow modern science. If Muslims had come up with these interpretations before modern scientific development provided a base for them, then you would have an interesting case. But as far as I know that didn’t happen, even once. So there’s really no case.

Fundamentalist Christians do this too. They claim that because Isaiah speaks of the “circle of the earth” therefore the Bible teaches that the world is round (they seem to miss the difference between “round” and “spherical”). I don’t find their arguments convincing for the same reasons.

Edwin
Yes. And in fact such an argument, if adopted, would work to thoroughly discredit the Qur’an. Many statements made in it about the cosmos are flat-out wrong (scientifically). My favorite example is the story in the Qur’an of Muhammad traveling to the edge of the universe where he witnessed the setting of the sun. Apparently, the sun dunked into a muddy/mirky pool! Others clearly make statements reflecting the Arabic understanding of the cosmos at the time, that the sun and moon orbited the sky of the Earth (which at the time was understood to be a dome over a flat Earth).
 
To be honest I don’t think its Catholic’s that do not trust Muslims I think its Americans in general.

911 would be the best reason.

I understand that not all Muslims are like that, but unfortunately we are judged by bad as good alike.

And unfortunately in this country we have not heard much of the good!🤷
 
At least one poster here would probably consider me an “anti-islamist” and all anti-islamists he accuses of having an arsenal, as he calls it. #1 in that arsenal is to accuse people of being a muslim when they have no proof that the accusation is grounded.
Let me say without any embarrassment that I am, without any doubt, an anti-islamist. And let me also say that I have never before “accused” anyone of being muslim when they claimed they were not and I have never heard anyone else accuse a person of being a muslim when that person claimed they were not. People who have decided that islam is not a faith to be admired do not need to be timid about their belief. They are not wild eyed unreasonable people and that includes me. I have not changed my mind about the subject of my controversial post ( apparently it wasn’t as controversial as I thought) and that is the way it is, as I see it. I also expected someone to defend the subject of my post but not to wrap himself in righeousness and superiority over it.
Since I have seen fit to dish it out…I don’t think it is unreasonable for me to expect to take it, within the forum’s rules. I was a little surprised at the support my post revealed, public and private,…so apparently “paranoid delusions” are communicable.🤷
 
At least one poster here would probably consider me an “anti-islamist” and all anti-islamists he accuses of having an arsenal, as he calls it. #1 in that arsenal is to accuse people of being a muslim when they have no proof that the accusation is grounded.
Let me say without any embarrassment that I am, without any doubt, an anti-islamist. And let me also say that I have never before “accused” anyone of being muslim when they claimed they were not and I have never heard anyone else accuse a person of being a muslim when that person claimed they were not. People who have decided that islam is not a faith to be admired do not need to be timid about their belief. They are not wild eyed unreasonable people and that includes me. I have not changed my mind about the subject of my controversial post ( apparently it wasn’t as controversial as I thought) and that is the way it is, as I see it. I also expected someone to defend the subject of my post but not to wrap himself in righeousness and superiority over it.
Since I have seen fit to dish it out…I don’t think it is unreasonable for me to expect to take it, within the forum’s rules. I was a little surprised at the support my post revealed, public and private,…so apparently “paranoid delusions” are communicable.🤷
As I said, your unfortunate choice to engage in unfounded and uncharitable speculation is a more common one than you seem to realize.

I knew you had support, which is why I made such a big deal about it. I had no desire to pick on you individually, but this is simply a vicious habit that needs to be opposed.

I have no desire to claim superiority. I have made some very unfortunate statements on Internet forums myself, and appreciate being called on it (when I am convinced that I’m wrong–sometimes I’m not, and sometimes I have to cool down and go away and think about it before I realize that yes, I could have handled the situation better:D).

Edwin
 
There is a show on TLC tonight at 10:00 Eastern 9:00 Central called “All American Muslim,” if anyone is interested.🙂
 
There is a show on TLC tonight at 10:00 Eastern 9:00 Central called “All American Muslim,” if anyone is interested.🙂
Never mind. I have only watched 10 minutes, but so far it displays the worst understanding of religion that I have ever seen. A Catholic is converting to Islam just so he can marry a Muslim? He clearly does not understand his faith or their faith very well. Sorry, I had no clue what this show would entail, but perhaps it is just one of the families that has such a distorted view of what religion means.
 
I don’t know if this is a joke thread or something, but on a serious note, we don’t “distrust” muslims. We just believe they are following a false prophet, which would mean a false religion. If you really want to help, pray for them that they will see the truth someday.
 
If I had to answer that with history and honestly. A primary reason for any distrust would be the with the ‘Prophet’ Muhammad. It is very hard for me to agree with him as prophet since he began his life in peace. However, as time went by… Methods for conversion were through beheadings.

I am not going to be unaccountable since the early Church has blood on its hands as well. Still, Christ as a prophet or our own savior. Founded our church with personal sacrifice, not someone elses’. Therefore I say I do not distrust them, I distrust their foundation.
 
If I had to answer that with history and honestly. A primary reason for any distrust would be the with the ‘Prophet’ Muhammad. It is very hard for me to agree with him as prophet since he began his life in peace. However, as time went by… Methods for conversion were through beheadings.

I am not going to be unaccountable since the early Church has blood on its hands as well. Still, Christ as a prophet or our own savior. Founded our church with personal sacrifice, not someone elses’. Therefore I say I do not distrust them, I distrust their foundation.
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I don’t know if this is a joke thread or something, but on a serious note, we don’t “distrust” muslims. We just believe they are following a false prophet, which would mean a false religion. If you really want to help, pray for them that they will see the truth someday.
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There is a show on TLC tonight at 10:00 Eastern 9:00 Central called “All American Muslim,” if anyone is interested.🙂
I would be wary, if not completely dismissive, of programmes such as this one. Shows like this one often attempt to sensationalize issues, or completely fail to understand their subject matter.
 
It hasn’t been my experience that Catholics distrust Muslims… I have run into many, many Protestants who distrust Muslims (who won’t even talk to them in fact!) but I have yet to meet a Catholic who distrusts Muslims?

This is an odd question …

But I believe the question is flawed from the start. There is nothing in Protestant theology that teaches to distrust Muslims and there is nothing in Catholic theology that teaches to distrust Muslims so if an individual Catholic or Protestant is distrusting towards Muslims that is their personal choice and actually has nothing to do with their Catholic or Protestant faith.
 
But I believe the question is flawed from the start. There is nothing in Protestant theology that teaches to distrust Muslims and there is nothing in Catholic theology that teaches to distrust Muslims so if an individual Catholic or Protestant is distrusting towards Muslims that is their personal choice and actually has nothing to do with their Catholic or Protestant faith.
I would argue something of the opposite. To identify under any label o religious beliefs entails hoding a certain set of beliefs as per what the holy book of that faith teaches or what religious authorities have deemed the truth, and viewing those who hold the opposite or differing views to be wrong.
And from what I can tell even from what I have seen on this forum this view leads to a certain amount of hostility from even the quietest of the group members towards anyone who is not part of the group. It is called in goup mentality by sociologists and by anthropologists.

But answering the initial OP,I would argue that Catholics are probably the least hostile and the least ditrusting of the Christian denominations with regards to Islam. From my own reading there has been much paal debate and interaction with various Islamic groups and figures, and much has been done to encourage religious tolerance within the Church.
 
If I had to answer that with history and honestly. A primary reason for any distrust would be the with the ‘Prophet’ Muhammad. It is very hard for me to agree with him as prophet since he began his life in peace. However, as time went by… Methods for conversion were through beheadings.

I am not going to be unaccountable since the early Church has blood on its hands as well. Still, Christ as a prophet or our own savior. Founded our church with personal sacrifice, not someone elses’. Therefore I say I do not distrust them, I distrust their foundation.
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When Muhammad first fabricated his religion, he believed that his converts would be mostly Arab Jews and Christians, therefore the Koran spoke highly of both groups. They were called “people of the book” and were to be treated with respect.

The Jews and Christians didn’t bite. They rejected Muhammad and Islam.

The Koran then began describing Jews as apes and pigs.

Christians fared even worse. They were guilty of shirk- the unforgivable sin of assigning God a son.

To a Muslim, a Christian is worse than a pagan. Salvation is within the reach of the pagan, but not the Christian.
 
Now… about this thread of yours…

You’ve locked it to only “Catholics”… :confused:
I don’t distrust Muslims, not at all. They’re often more conservative than other groups which makes it easier to get along with them. In my experience I don’t find stereotypes about Muslims to be true.

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Why do I not trustr Muslims? 9-11 Read parts of the Quran. Plus how they run amuck over burning of it, how they give out justice etc.

A for instance: "“So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.” According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam. Prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religions Five Pillars. - Quran 9,5 This taken from source thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm

Many wonderful peaceful passages. (Heavy sarcasm) It is no wonder the Muslim world do what they do. I do not trust them as their works plainly show I can not.

Edit: I have my opinion not because I am Catholic but because of common sense.
 
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