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Why do and are catholics leaving the Church and possibily their salvation. Heb. 6:4-8
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Pat
Continued Blessings,
Pat
For their own personal will. Many many many many lol Catholics that leave the Church do so for social reasons. Some leave the Church due to marriage to a non Catholic. I know a lady who left the Church for “family unity.” Her husband was Protestant and she simply left to keep the household in one church and faith. I asked her is family unity worth your salvation? She did not like that question lol.Why do and are catholics leaving the Church and possibily their salvation. Heb. 6:4-8
Continued Blessings,
Pat
“While a lot of people leave the Church, they tend not to be good Catholics,” says Curtis Martin, president of Catholics United for the Faith, who himself returned to the Church after spending five years as an evangelical Protestant. “The Protestants [now] coming into the Church are the most devoted Protestants, people deeply committed to Scripture and prayer. We’re losing the numbers game but we are winning the quality game in spades.”
Ouch!catholiceducation.org/articles/religion/re0252.html
“While a lot of people leave the Church, they tend not to be good Catholics,” says Curtis Martin, president of Catholics United for the Faith, who himself returned to the Church after spending five years as an evangelical Protestant. “The Protestants [now] coming into the Church are the most devoted Protestants, people deeply committed to Scripture and prayer. We’re losing the numbers game but we are winning the quality game in spades.”
I agree:thumbsup:During a discussion in a group at church, one member of the group answered this question very simply “so they can live like they want.” I thought that summed it up pretty well. All the excuses given are just that–excuses.
How does one have any statistical information on the depth of people’s spirituality?catholiceducation.org/articles/religion/re0252.html
“While a lot of people leave the Church, they tend not to be good Catholics,” says Curtis Martin, president of Catholics United for the Faith, who himself returned to the Church after spending five years as an evangelical Protestant. “The Protestants [now] coming into the Church are the most devoted Protestants, people deeply committed to Scripture and prayer. We’re losing the numbers game but we are winning the quality game in spades.”
Many people go to church to get an emotional high or for the social aspects and miss the real importance which are the sacraments particularly the Blessed Sacrement. No one who real believes in the Real Presence would ever leave it. Their focus is on people and not God. Once the high wears off they go looking for another. We are called to mature in the faith, so although there may well be initially an emotional aspect, faith is not emotion and the high goes away as the Spirit leads us into the deserts where we are called to exercise our faith and grow. The Lord never promised us emotional gratification He said “Pick up your cross and follow me”.Why do and are catholics leaving the Church and possibily their salvation. Heb. 6:4-8
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Pat
First of all, to believe in the need for salvation one must accept the premise that we are inherently doomed.Why do and are catholics leaving the Church and possibily their salvation. Heb. 6:4-8
Continued Blessings,
Pat
How do you figure that?First of all, to believe in the need for salvation one must accept the premise that we are inherently doomed.
If you are not doomed, why do you need to be saved?How do you figure that?
I’m sorry to hear that. However, one cannot judge the Church by one individual. I have a Lutheran friend who is not really that moral minded. I do not judge the lutheran faith based on him. Many Catholics that leave the Church do so because of an experience they had with a priest, parish, or social issue they feel more strongly over than what the Church teaches. I know a female who is a lesbian and once Catholic (her words not mine). She left the Church because of gay marriage. Does living the Church make her views on gay marriage correct? Of coursr not. It simply means she does not have to answer to anyone. Or so she thinks.Many times it isn’t because someone isn’t a “good Catholic” or faithful enough or even because they want to do it their way.
Some were told to leave. Or at least told they may as well leave.
Long story, short. My parents left the church after my 1st Communion. Mom was a product of Catholic school, Dad went to CCD, as he put it, forever.
Mom had life saving surgery, but was told by our local priest that recluseeshe didn’t get permission to have a hysterectomy, she was in mortal sin and had excommunicated herself from the church. (Nice, huh?)
Yes, I know the priest was wrong. Yes, my mother came back. But it was hard, and she left for a long time.
And she didn’t want to do it her way, she just wanted to live long enough to raise her children. She knew her faith as well as anyone. And up until that time she was a good Catholic.
I suggest, instead of grouping everyone together, realize that each person has a story. A reason. And take time to learn that story or reason.
I was mostly asking why that might turn someone away from the Catholic faith. Instead of rejecting the notion, why wouldn’t they try to learn more about it on their own, or seek the pastoral considerations of a Priest?If you are not doomed, why do you need to be saved?
No doubt this affects many. It takes discipline to be a disciple. It’s right there in the word. Emotions are fun and sure help, but they can not be any more than a crutch when we are crippled that needs to be discarded when we are ready to walk.Many people go to church to get an emotional high or for the social aspects and miss the real importance which are the sacraments particularly the Blessed Sacrement.