Why do Catholics partake of the body and blood of Christ?

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Jehovah’s witnesses have 144,000 that partake of the body and blood of Christ.

What scriptural reasons do Catholics have for EVERY baptized catholic to partake of the bread and wine?
Should the question be “What scriptural reasons do Catholics have for EVERY baptized catholic to partake of the bread and/or wine?” since Catholics believe that they fully partake of Communion by either eating the bread or by drinking the wine (or both, of course)?
 
Jehovah’s witnesses have 144,000 that partake of the body and blood of Christ.

What scriptural reasons do Catholics have for EVERY baptized catholic to partake of the bread and wine?
Matthew 26:
Institution of the Lord’s Supper

26Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and after blessing it broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is my body.” 27And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, “Drink of it, all of you, 28for this is my blood of thec covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. 29I tell you I will not drink again of this fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.”

Jon
 
I thought the number 144, 000 was the number who were going to be in the Kingdom after Christ’s return. How are you to know if you are one of the 144, 000?
According to them maybe.

But in answer to your question.

They are the ones who have been marked on their foreheads. Revelation 7:3, and are not one of the great multitude which no man can number from every nation from all tribes and peoples and tongues.
 
The number of one hundred and forty-four thousand is not to be taken in a literal and strict sense, but to express in general terms the great number of the elect; for it appears that the tribe of Dan, which certainly must have produced some elect, is not mentioned, and the tribe of Joseph is put in lieu of that of Ephraim: so that if it be supposed that these numbers must be taken literally, the tribe of Joseph would have produced a double number to that of any other tribe, since Manasses was his son, and the tribe of Dan would have produced none. (Ven. Bede)
 
It should also be noted that the 144000 are males, they are firstfruits, they are unique from the general laity (which no man can number), they have a special position before God in heaven.
 
Jehovah’s witnesses have 144,000 that partake of the body and blood of Christ.

What scriptural reasons do Catholics have for EVERY baptized catholic to partake of the bread and wine?
If you are a Catholic, you should know and if you don’t know the answer then you have come to the right place. Don’t concern yourself with what JWs do, concentrate on learning the basics of your own faith first.

We really need to improve our RCIA and adult catholic education courses.
 
If you look at the OPs posts you’ll notice he is toying with the idea of becoming a JW.
I suspect this thread is a way of proselytizing. Just MHO.
If not, then perhaps he would like to explain what he means.
I have noticed the original poster has posted a few queries regarding JWs. One thread I answered has been Closed. 🤷

His profile states he is Catholic, we can only take his word for it. Indeed the same applies to all of us. 🙂
 
I have noticed the original poster has posted a few queries regarding JWs. One thread I answered has been Closed. 🤷

His profile states he is Catholic, we can only take his word for it. Indeed the same applies to all of us. 🙂
The OP was in their own words raised JW and has discovered the Catholic Church. There may be remaining questions, since JW and Catholic are worlds apart, and since the JW practice is to isolate their flock from contact with other faith formulas, and since they also tend to have a heavily insular indoctrination process, and since they are primarily educated by picture-books.
 
The OP was in their own words raised JW and has discovered the Catholic Church. There may be remaining questions, since JW and Catholic are worlds apart, and since the JW practice is to isolate their flock from contact with other faith formulas, and since they also tend to have a heavily insular indoctrination process, and since they are primarily educated by picture-books.
Ah…that explains it. Thank you for that background information. 👍 I suppose it would be a torrid time attempting to explain Catholic beliefs to his JW friends in a manner they understand when many Catholics themselves don’t understand. He should just invite all of them into the lions den here at CAF for the senior members here to assist. 😃
 
Ah…that explains it. Thank you for that background information. 👍 I suppose it would be a torrid time attempting to explain Catholic beliefs to his JW friends in a manner they understand when many Catholics themselves don’t understand. He should just invite all of them into the lions den here at CAF for the senior members here to assist. 😃
If they show up you’re in BIG trouble.
😉
 
I don’t really understand. Only 144,000 JW’s can receive communion?
 
I don’t really understand. Only 144,000 JW’s can receive communion?
Apparently yes for the JWs. The OP should know being raised JW and maybe he can support it’s validity. There must be many many kingdom halls where they bring out “communion” and then put it away again in empty silence. I would think that it would be possible for the JWs to predict the return of Jesus Christ based on the numbers of JWs who filled up that 144000. I would be interested whether they kept records of that. Maybe the OP knows and can answer this. 1914 does spring to mind, so maybe the time of the 144000 has passed already, and they belonged to a very small time frame. I hope the OP can answer this question too.
 
Here’s a quote from the JW book called “What Does the Bible Really Teach?”
Who should partake of these Memorial emblems? Logically, only those in the new covenant—that is, those who have the hope of going to heaven—should partake of the bread and the wine. God’s holy spirit convinces such ones that they have been selected to be heavenly kings. (Romans 8:16) They are also in the Kingdom covenant with Jesus.—Luke 22:29.
What about those who have the hope of living forever in Paradise on earth? They obey Jesus’ command and attend the Lord’s Evening Meal, but they come as respectful observers, not partakers. Once a year after sundown on Nisan 14, Jehovah’s Witnesses observe the Lord’s Evening Meal. Although only a few thousand worldwide profess to have the heavenly hope, this observance is precious to all Christians. It is an occasion when all can reflect on the superlative love of Jehovah God and Jesus Christ.—John 3:16.
It doesn’t refer to the exact number of 144,000, but the JW who came to my door said that only those who “feel” they are part of the 144,000 may partake.
 
Jehovah’s witnesses have 144,000 that partake of the body and blood of Christ.

What scriptural reasons do Catholics have for EVERY baptized catholic to partake of the bread and wine?
I see some have posted scripture for every baptized Catholic to partake. What I would like to see now is scripture evidence that only 144,000 can partake. No JW has ever presented such evidence to me.
 
Here’s a quote from the JW book called “What Does the Bible Really Teach?”

It doesn’t refer to the exact number of 144,000, but the JW who came to my door said that only those who “feel” they are part of the 144,000 may partake.
Then that is another resent change in their dogma. It used to be literally 144,00.
 
I see some have posted scripture for every baptized Catholic to partake. What I would like to see now is scripture evidence that only 144,000 can partake. No JW has ever presented such evidence to me.
There is no such scripture but this is how they think, and it’s complicated!

JW’s believe that scripture was written only to the 144,000, not to anyone else. Of course in NT times, everyone was of the 144,000, but since then most of the slots have been filled, and only a few thousand are left at the present time. JW’s pass the bread and wine around, from person to person, once a year on the Jewish date Nisan 14, and they signal their membership in the 144,000 by partaking. Of course most of the time no one partakes!

The Watchtower teaches that only the 144,000 are in the new covenant, that scripture only applies to those, and so it follows that any scripture that says to partake only applies to a self-designated member of the 144,000. When the average JW reads scripture, he or she must always remind themselves that what they read is not for them, but applies only to the “little flock”, the 144,000. The average JW is of the “other sheep,” the “great multitude.”

The remaining members of the 144,000 are rapidly dying off, and when one dies, he or she is turned into a spirit creature and goes to heaven. Only the little flock go to heaven.

How do the “other sheep” get saved? Well, by how well they obey the 144,000, saved via their association with them. That is, they won’t be killed off if Armageddon arrives while they are still alive, and if they die before Armageddon, they will be resurrected to live in the millenium. How they behave in the 1000 year reign will determine if they survive to live in “the paradise earth.”
 
If you look at the OPs posts you’ll notice he is toying with the idea of becoming a JW.
I suspect this thread is a way of proselytizing. Just MHO.
If not, then perhaps he would like to explain what he means.
I was not sure why a Catholic would post this the way that they had and on reading your post. I went back and reread, so a Catholic referring to the Holy Eucharist as bread and wine instead of Christ’s Body and Blood. 🤷

it may be as you say, I guess he will chime in at some point.
 
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