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When it is forbidden in the Bible?
It is not forbidden. I have to guess, since you do not document your unfounded charge, that you refer to Deuteronomy 18:11 and to Samuel consulting with a witch. Neither of these deal with prayers to saints but his does so read it.When it is forbidden in the Bible?
No Contact with the dead"
Sometimes Fundamentalists object to asking our fellow Christians in heaven to pray for us by declaring that God has forbidden contact with the dead in passages such as Deuteronomy 18:10–11. In fact, he has not, because he at times has given it—for example, when he had Moses and Elijah appear with Christ to the disciples on the Mount of Transfiguration (Matt. 17:3). What God has forbidden is necromantic practice of conjuring up spirits. “There shall not be found among you any one who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, any one who practices divination, a soothsayer, or an augur, or a sorcerer, or a charmer, or a medium, or a wizard, or a necromancer. . . . For these nations, which you are about to dispossess, give heed to soothsayers and to diviners; but as for you, the Lord your God has not allowed you so to do. The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your brethren—him you shall heed” (Deut. 18:10–15).
God thus indicates that one is not to conjure the dead for purposes of gaining information; one is to look to God’s prophets instead. Thus one is not to hold a seance. But anyone with an ounce of common sense can discern the vast qualitative difference between holding a seance to have the dead speak through you and a son humbly saying at his mother’s grave, “Mom, please pray to Jesus for me; I’m having a real problem right now.” The difference between the two is the difference between night and day. One is an occult practice bent on getting secret information; the other is a humble request for a loved one to pray to God on one’s behalf.
Because the people many Protestants merely call dead ar actually alive of a superior life in Christ, even now.When it is forbidden in the Bible?
Asking questions is how I came to revert back to the Catholic Church. Referrals to good reading material is what CAF is all about.That’s an excellent idea. Why keep posting questions based on anti-Catholic rhetoric, seeking answers from hundreds of random strangers, when there’s plenty of good reading material to learn from? That’s the way I leaned about Judaism, Buddhism, etc. Learning is more interesting and valuable than posting!
While Lutherans do not, generally, practice invocation of the saints, it isn’t because they are dead. They are alive in Christ, and pray for us, The Church Militant, unceasingly.When it is forbidden in the Bible?
So, could you explain exactly what you think Catholics do that falls under the category of “consulting the dead”?9 When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead.
Do you really want the answers to all of these common misconceptions,When it is forbidden in the Bible?
I read the Obituaries and at the end there are usually Memorials. Now I KNOW there not all written by Catholics. SOOOO I often wonder if those who do write them think they are writing to the “Dead??? Do they think the “dead” can read them’. Almost all are written to the person who has died, Example, “Johnny, you have been gone for 10 years but we love you and miss you as much as we did the day you left us.” Read for yourself and see! If they are really " dead” whats the use? Waste of money. Catholics, pray to or “talk” to those who have gone on ahead of us without having to pay big bucks to the newspaper. I think it is a God given desire to stay close to those we love that have died, even if we don’t believe the way Catholics do. If they are in Purgatory, our prays help them. The Sacred Scriptures, (the part that Luther left out) says it is a Holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead. And that’s what we do ! Not to ask for forgiveness of their sins, they have to take care of that by repentance before they die, but to help atone for them. Repair the damage done by them. I would suggest that before you criticize the Catholic Church, try to understand her beliefs. It’s not really fair to criticize something you don’t understand. God Bless, MemawWhen it is forbidden in the Bible?
I believe this OP might be involved with the GotQuestions.org anti-Catholic Protestant site.
So let’s make sure to give him/her solid answers to help teach him/her the full Truth.
God Bless
I read the Obituaries and at the end there are usually Memorials. Now I KNOW there not all written by Catholics. SOOOO I often wonder if those who do write them think they are writing to the “Dead??? Do they think the “dead” can read them’. Almost all are written to the person who has died, Example, “Johnny, you have been gone for 10 years but we love you and miss you as much as we did the day you left us.” Read for yourself and see! If they are really " dead” whats the use? Waste of money. Catholics, pray to or “talk” to those who have gone on ahead of us without having to pay big bucks to the newspaper. I think it is a God given desire to stay close to those we love that have died, even if we don’t believe the way Catholics do. If they are in Purgatory, our prays help them. The Sacred Scriptures, (the part that Luther left out) says it is a Holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead. And that’s what we do ! Not to ask for forgiveness of their sins, they have to take care of that by repentance before they die, but to help atone for them. Repair the damage done by them. I would suggest that before you criticize the Catholic Church, try to understand her beliefs. It’s not really fair to criticize something you don’t understand. God Bless, Memaw
Apology of the Augsburg Confession“Regarding the adversaries’ quoting the Fathers about the offering for the dead, we know that the ancients speak of prayer for the dead, which we do not ban.”