Why do extremist give the EF and traditionalist a bad name?

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CilladeRoma said:
If you needed an example of why some people give a bad name to “traditionalists” you need to look no further than the responses to my posts about this. I posted Church documents that do exactly what many “traditionalists” say was never addressed at VII, and we still get arguments
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I appreciate your adding the link. Thank you. It does show it is an option, which is why I gave the second answer I did. I have, though, read before from priests that part of the reasoning for the position of the altar was so that he could incense the altar and turn to the people when needed and that was the reason for my answer.

As far as traditionalists and arguing. That is kind of a generalization of one group of people. This CAF forum is nothing but arguing and debating. I rarely see a polite, simple, discussion going on here amongst anyone about anything, whether it be a traditionalist or not and there are many here who are not traditionalists.

Is it okay for someone who is not a traditionalist to express their point and it not be considered arguing but tradtionalists are not allowed to express their point of view or we will give them a bad name and say all they do is argue?

Something just doesn’t seem right about that. I have started many posts here at CAF and then withdrew them because I felt someone would attack me because it was too traditional, so I think there needs to be a little bit more balanced, Christian approach to who we give a bad name to and who is pushy and who argues. I am pretty sure it comes from both sides.

God bless.
 
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Augustinian said:
Really, with funeral arrangements, the time, who the mortician is, what cemetery, are the kinds of details that need to be worked out. It becomes too complex to expect the family to decide on the Mass propers
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Which is why we should consider making our own choices about such things beforehand and attaching our funeral Mass plan to our wills. Our loved ones can then just hand this over to the priest.
 
I’m not a traditionalist. Clarifying that Ad Orientem is an option is a neutral response. I’m good either way generally speaking.

“Progressives” who ridicule AO (not saying that applies to you) are just as bad as traditionalists who insist it’s the only way.
 
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Brendan_64 said:
The GIRM does specifically state at certain points that the priest should say specific words facing the people. If versus populum was the automatic position and he was already facing the people, then why would it state that he face in a position he is already facing?
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If, as said above, saying the mass in either direction is allowed, then how should the GIRM be written? What are the options? Either you write it for the priest facing one direction and mention the times he needs to turn around if he is celebrating the mass the other way, or you need two parallel GIRMs, one for masses Ad Orientem and one for masses Versus Populum. Choosing the option of writing only one GIRM does not necessarily mean the assumed posture is preferred.
 
What the last guy said. People always sound madder writing than talking.
 
I have to ask: what is EF? Please excuse me on this - I don’t keep up on buzzwords and acronyms and such. Thanks in advance.
 
Stands for “extraordinary”, and its a common term and initials for what pedestrians call the Latin Mass.
 
Extraordinary Form of the Mass — aka the Pre Vatican II Latin Mass, where the Priest faced away from the parishoners (Ad Orientum) and most of the Mass was said in Latin rather than the vernacular. Until the late 1960s-early 1970s, this was the norm in the Latin Rite of the Catholic Church.

As opposed the the OF, or Ordinary Form, which is the standard Mass said in the vernacular most of us attend normally today. The Priest faces the parishoners during most of the Mass (versus populum).

There are many people on here who go out of their way to parishes that celebrate the EF because they love the traditional liturgy or because those parishes tend to be much more conservative in general or both.
 
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The church has also gained a lot if you look at Africa and Asia…people don’t realize the Catholic Church is bigger than the west
 
johnjacob2004 said:
I like aspects of the EF and tradition, but I don’t push my views on others. I also think when one becomes pushy then the other person feels less inclined to learn about the tradition
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There is something wrong with these people.
 
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