Well, I’m not a Christian apologist; however, I think maybe one can better identify with Christ’s own suffering on the Cross by means of what you call “over-the-top” suffering. Also, I suppose personal suffering may make us more understanding of others’ suffering and more loving toward them. Thus there is redemption in suffering in this world as well as the next.Maybe the questions are “Why must it be so over the top all the time?” “Why must it be so over the top that one can only think of how to make it stop?” That’s not serving Him very well.
Yes. No amount of suffering on my part can compare to His. Any issues of this nature on my part has made me more aware and understanding of others’. Good point. Thank you.Well, I’m not a Christian apologist; however, I think maybe one can better identify with Christ’s own suffering on the Cross by means of what you call “over-the-top” suffering. Also, I suppose personal suffering may make us more understanding of others’ suffering and more loving toward them. Thus there is redemption in suffering in this world as well as the next.
I place LOVE above suffering in respect to salvation.Yes. No amount of suffering on my part can compare to His. Any issues of this nature on my part has made me more aware and understanding of others’. Good point. Thank you.
so do iI place LOVE above suffering in respect to salvation.
The two are connected, it seems, in the life and death of Jesus.I place LOVE above suffering in respect to salvation.
Indeed, they are.The two are connected, it seems, in the life and death of Jesus.
If there was true LOVE in everyone, there would be no need for hell or suffering.Indeed, they are.
What is your take on some of the saints who suffered despite loving much?If there was true LOVE in everyone, there would be no need for hell or suffering.
Or Jesus? And we’re back to my thread about the predestination of mankind’s committing original sin.If there was true LOVE in everyone, there would be no need for hell or suffering.
A means of elevating their souls to new heights.What is your take on some of the saints who suffered despite loving much?
If there was true LOVE in everyone, there would be no need for hell or suffering.
What is your take on some of the saints who suffered despite loving much?
Let me try it this way. Do you think some of the saints did not love enough and so they suffered?A means of elevating their souls to new heights.
I believe that the saints had LOVE, but suffered to elevate their soul to a greater LOVE.Let me try it this way. Do you think some of the saints did not love enough and so they suffered?
Therefore, suffering can be a means to a greater end. However, it is perhaps a necessary means.I believe that the saints had LOVE, but suffered to elevate their soul to a greater LOVE.
gotchaI believe that the saints had LOVE, but suffered to elevate their soul to a greater LOVE.
in your opinions, where does this put people like me?Therefore, suffering can be a means to a greater end. However, it is perhaps a necessary means.
Because we are unfortunately at the mercy of the devils seductions and deceptions. Satan was cast out of heaven for his envy of the ‘top job’ and has been condemned to finding recruits to his unholy empire among Gods children.Why is it that we can’t simply accept the law that is written upon our hearts?
How’s that? These were always my beliefs.gotcha
It is the effect of original sin done by Adam and Eve. We are attracted to sin and wickedness.Why is it that we can’t simply accept the law that is written upon our hearts?