why do i keep seeing masonic ties.

[benidict]

looking at the Adventist movement, and the Mormons, i notice that both their founders had strong masonic roots. William miller, founder of the Adventist movement, High level Mason. Joseph Bates, Adventist movement, Mason, Joseph Smith, High level Mason. while Charles Taze Russell was reportedly not a Mason, he certainly seemed to know their secret handshakes and such. i just find the tie in with the lodge interesting, and i wonder how much it affected their theological thinking. any thoughts? peace

 

[choy]

looking at the Adventist movement, and the Mormons, i notice that both their founders had strong masonic roots. William miller, founder of the Adventist movement, High level Mason. Joseph Bates, Adventist movement, Mason, Joseph Smith, High level Mason. while Charles Taze Russell was reportedly not a Mason, he certainly seemed to know their secret handshakes and such. i just find the tie in with the lodge interesting, and i wonder how much it affected their theological thinking. any thoughts? peace

even the Iglesia ni Cristo, which is basically an LDS copycat in the Philippines, was founded by a mason. 22nd degree i think

 

[Noesis]

William Miller’s personal theology seems to stem from his attempt to justify his conversion from deism. For Miller, the best evidence that supported a leap from vague belief in a monotheistic deity to Baptist Christianity, was the pillar of prophecy that he felt the Bible contains. His subsequent ‘career’ as a theologian was framed by his (apparent) obsession with prophecy.

One thing to keep in mind about this topic, is that Masonry in and of itself does not openly indoctrinate individuals, so that they adhere to some set of dogmas that prop up some specific theology. ‘Seeing Masonic ties’ between individuals who created offshoots of mainstream Christianity, to my viewing of this, does not imply that those offshoots exist because Masonry created them.

 

[Izdaari]

William Miller’s personal theology seems to stem from his attempt to justify his conversion from deism. For Miller, the best evidence that supported a leap from vague belief in a monotheistic deity to Baptist Christianity, was the pillar of prophecy that he felt the Bible contains. His subsequent ‘career’ as a theologian was framed by his (apparent) obsession with prophecy.

Interesting. Although I’m not a Mason, I am a convert from deism (of Zen/Tao/Vedanta flavor) to Christianity. And I agree with Miller that Biblical prophecy is the best support for Christian belief, though I’m not obsessed with it.

 

[benidict]

William Miller’s personal theology seems to stem from his attempt to justify his conversion from deism. For Miller, the best evidence that supported a leap from vague belief in a monotheistic deity to Baptist Christianity, was the pillar of prophecy that he felt the Bible contains. His subsequent ‘career’ as a theologian was framed by his (apparent) obsession with prophecy.

One thing to keep in mind about this topic, is that Masonry in and of itself does not openly indoctrinate individuals, so that they adhere to some set of dogmas that prop up some specific theology. ‘Seeing Masonic ties’ between individuals who created offshoots of mainstream Christianity, to my viewing of this, does not imply that those offshoots exist because Masonry created them.

thank you very much. i agree that the masons did no create these offshoots. but even if no indoctrination takes place, there is a pretty strong undercurrent of certain types of occultism in the higher degrees of masonry. so the question is, could this have affected these gentlemens theology, in say… numerology, and trying to pick a date for Christ return? peace