Why do I see God this way?

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I don’t know how it happened, but I just formed this idea in my head that somehow when I do something wrong, even by accident, that God doesn’t love me…

I look at what Christ did for me, and I look at the fact that He was Eternally Begotten of the Father in Love which is the Holy Spirit, but I …I don’t know. This is frustrating, because I want to have a personal and loving relationship with my Savior and my Father and the Spirit, but I just see them as “too good” I guess. Like they’re above me. Like I’m missing out because I can’t understand and “feel the love” I guess you could say.

Add to that a bumpy past (let’s just say I’ve had to ask for St. Joseph’s and Mary Madelene’s intercession), and recurring attraction to the same sex and you’re looking at a strained relationship where I misunderstood a lot.

I guess Advent is a good time to be reflecting on this.🤷
I started spiritual direction in August, but I didn’t go back to see my director because school got so busy and I just forgot. I’ll probably just explain to him that moving across the country was tough, starting college was tough, and maybe it was too soon to start that process.
 
Dear soul, considering what you say here, and what I’ve read of your posts elsewhere, you seem to be suffering from scrupulosity.

Relax. There’s no such thing as an uptight saint.

And remember this: we don’t get to choose our temptations.
 
somehow when I do something wrong, even by accident, that God doesn’t love me…

This is frustrating, because I want to have a personal and loving relationship with my Savior and my Father and the Spirit, but I just see them as “too good” I guess. Like they’re above me.
Sure, God is too good; how else could He loves us, sinners, if He is not super good and merciful. To say that God does not love you is to deny His goodness.
 
You know, love is such a confusing thing. Many of us don’t think we’ve been in love or are in love or are loved because what we are recieving isn’t what we expect. Expectations, when it comes to love, seem to always mess us up.

My Great Grandma celibrated her 113 birthday last Wednesday, and my Grandma is still alive and in 89 years old. My Grandma was telling me something interesting about love. I had asked her about how she knew that Grandpa was “the ONE.” She said she didn’t know he was the one. She said that back then no one had TV to set their expectations on what love should be. On top of that she barely knew anything about sex except for what the animals on the farm would do. All she knew is that my Grandpa was kind and hardworking and so she married him. She felt lucky that he wasn’t a drunk or soemthing and their love grew out of mutual respect. it didn’t grow from sexual attraction as everyone seems to want these days.

I also heard a Priest once who said that love was not a feeling it was an action. Something to think about…

Ok, my point is what you expect to feel from God, as true love, and what he actually gives you might be different. I think you should try to not expect or want anything from God and instead just give love to Him with no expectations and no wants. Do this and I am sure that you will feel love.
 
I don’t know how it happened, but I just formed this idea in my head that somehow when I do something wrong, even by accident, that God doesn’t love me…

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in answer to your title, I think of an insight Jeff Cavins has offered when he witnesses about his own life and conversion story. He made particular reference to his relationship with his father, and how that was a factor in this story. I guess from that I would conclude the perhaps for most of us our first idea about God, particularly his love, justice and mercy, comes from our ideas about our own parents, particularly the father. I have often heard in retreats etc. that understanding and healing the parental relationship is the key to healthy perceptions and relationship with God.
 
scapularkid

While we were yet sinners, God came into the world to save us.

Consider the fact that God, who is divine, who is all knowing, all powerful, all pure and perfect in every way, humbled Himself, by becoming chosing to become one of us, and suffer and die for us.

Despite his divine nature, he chose to live as a man. Suffer as a man, and live with stupid men. He suppressed his divine powers and took it upon himself, to live as one of us. No one has ever made such a sacrifice, as our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ did.

This is how much he loves you.

Hope this helps!

God Bless
Jim
 
Is it just possible Adam and Eve thought (temporarily) that God didn’t love them when the world was devastated by their sin? They knew 100% that He loved them before that. Then they disobeyed so inexcusably, and were utterly ashamed, and knew it was their fault. But maybe they were too focused on their shame and not on His love. (Of course I don’t know these things, but I wonder)

God proved how much He loved them (and us) when He sent His Son to redeem us from the sin they let loose on the world. “O happy fault that merited such and so great a Redeemer.” God’s love brings good out of the wrong that we do, if we stay with Him or return to Him: “Everything works together for those who love God”.

He loves us as a father loves his son, even when the son is far beneath the father in goodness and wisdom and strength. It is wonderful how a father loves a son, who came from him and needs his help. How much more wonderful is it how God loves each child He created to be forever in His loving care.

We’ll only understand God’s love perfectly in heaven. In the mean time, we should pray to increase our faith and trust that He does really love us, and remember the many proofs He has given. Above all we must increase OUR love of Him “…with our whole heart, our whole soul, our whole mind, our whole strength.” The closer we get to Him the more we’ll understand His love for us.
 
I don’t know how it happened, but I just formed this idea in my head that somehow when I do something wrong, even by accident, that God doesn’t love me…
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When you say you do something wrong, I assume you mean you commit some sin. Sin is evil. When we sin we do things that are evil. God is good, so when we do evil things that are opposed to God’s nature, we separate ourselves from God and from His love.

It is not that He does not love us. He is love. Rather it is us who do not love Him. Love is a two way street. It is given and received and then given back. There is a giver and a receiver who do both give and receive, and there is the love itself, a trinity. God loves us, but in sin we are broken and lose awareness of His love and can not receive it unless we are restored or repaired.

When we do evil we break ourselves spiritually and can not have this communion of love with God who always loves us. He does not withdraw His love from us. We withdraw from Him and the life giving and receiving communion of love is broken by us, not Him.

Love is not a thing that you have in store like money that sits in your pocket inactive and you can put your hand in you pocket and feel it and know you can use it whenever you need it. Rather it is like the blood in your veins, constantly beinging pumped through your body keeping you alive. It is your spiritual life blood, but it does not come from your heart. It comes from God and when we do evil we stop its flow and we die. This does not mean God does not love us. We are the ones who make it stop.

Jesus asks Saint Peter three times, “Peter, do you love me”. He asks you the same question. How do we know whether we love God? Here is what Saint John says. “The love of God consists in this, that we keep His commandments”. Here is what Jesus says, “If a man loves me he will keep my commands”. If our consciences convict us of sin we know we do not love God, and we are all sinful. Faith tells us that even though we do not love God in this state, He still loves us and wants to redeem us. This gives rise to hope and we call out to God to help us love Him, to give us the grace to repent, obey, love and live in holiness.

Everyone who asks for mercy receives it. Everyone who prefers sin to love also gets what they want. We are free to choose spiritual life or death.
 
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I don’t know how it happened, but I just formed this idea in my head that somehow when I do something wrong, even by accident, that God doesn’t love me…
When you say you do something wrong, I assume you mean you commit some sin. Sin is evil. When we sin we do things that are evil. God is good, so when we do evil things that are opposed to God’s nature, we separate ourselves from God and from His love.
God’s merciful love will never abandon us in this life, but we can willfully separate ourselves from Him. His love can still find a way to us, but we must desire it and accept it.

But this separation from God occurs only through mortal sin, not venial sin. Mortal sin requires knowing (or firmly believing) that what we want to do is seriously evil, and then doing it intentionally. Mortal sin “kills” our soul, by causing it to lose its participation in God’s life.

Venial sin does not “kill” the soul, but it leaves a kind of blemish or wound. Of course venial sin IS evil; it offends our infinitely loving God. But it leave us as His children, not separated from Him.

If we do something partly “by accident” it may be only a venial sin. If God knows that it is truly unintentional and excusable, it is not a sin at all.

For all sins the act of contrition expresses what we must do: “firmly resolve, with the help of Thy grace, to confess my sins, to do penance, and to amend my life”.

Not caring about our venial sins any more is most likely a mortal sin. At some point(s) we must have deliberately silenced our conscience when it told us we were falling away from God.
Love is not a thing that you have in store like money that sits in your pocket inactive and you can put your hand in you pocket and feel it and know you can use it whenever you need it. Rather it is like the blood in your veins, constantly beinging pumped through your body keeping you alive. It is your spiritual life blood, but it does not come from your heart. It comes from God and when we do evil we stop its flow and we die. This does not mean God does not love us. We are the ones who make it stop.

Everyone who asks for mercy receives it. Everyone who prefers sin to love also gets what they want. We are free to choose spiritual life or death.
When we are in the state of mortal sin, God doesn’t just wait for us to ask for His mercy (although it is true we must ask). I think God follows us in our lives with His love, trying to draw us back to Him (illustrated in the poem the “Hound of Heaven”, or in the lives of some saints - e.g. St. Augustine). From one point of view it is not we who ask for mercy, it is God who asks us “won’t you return to My love?”. God is there, with His love and mercy, at the death bed of the most evil man. How great is God’s love to NEVER abandon a man all others despise, until the man’s death seals his final abandonment of God.

HOWEVER we should RUSH to ask for His forgiveness and mercy, and for His grace to keep us from sin. If we presumptuously dilly-dally in sin, thinking “He’ll forgive me later”, we offend God, kill our soul, risk our salvation and destroy our happiness even now.

But by knowing how much God loves you, you will better learn to sorrow for your sin: “How can I love so little a God who loves me so much?”

Christ’s death on the cross is the best proof that God ALWAYS loves us without measure. He didn’t say “they’ll get what they obviously want”. He said “Father forgive them, they do not know what they do”.
Jesus asks Saint Peter three times, “Peter, do you love me”. He asks you the same question. How do we know whether we love God? Here is what Saint John says. “The love of God consists in this, that we keep His commandments”. Here is what Jesus says, “If a man loves me he will keep my commands”. If our consciences convict us of sin we know we do not love God, and we are all sinful. Faith tells us that even though we do not love God in this state, He still loves us and wants to redeem us. This gives rise to hope and we call out to God to help us love Him, to give us the grace to repent, obey, love and live in holiness.
Disobeying a commandment by a venial sin means that you don’t love God PERFECTLY. Loving God is keeping His commandments. But in this life we don’t do either of those things perfectly. Christ’s first commandment is “Love God with your whole heart, your whole soul, your whole mind, your whole strength”. But such love should grow and grow, until it is perfected in heaven. We are not perfect now.
 
I don’t know how it happened, but I just formed this idea in my head that somehow when I do something wrong, even by accident, that God doesn’t love me…
Believe me, God loves you. Anything that could ever be experienced by a human being, whether bad or good, God is firmilair with, otherwise he couldn’t relate to us personally, especially when we are in despair from sin. It is because he is perfect, that he can not help but care for you, if you think he doesn’t love you, then this simply makes him all the more concerned. Try and work on establishing a relationship with him based on what I said. It seems you think that he is alienated from us because he is perfect, you’re wrong; But that because he is perfect, he cares for us.
 
Just remember that God knows and has seen every sin you will ever commit even before you were born. He still created you because He loves You. He always will love you. His love isn’t earned or deserved - it can just be accepted and reciprocated. God loves you and you love Him. That’s what matters. You are beautiful in God’s sight and He wants you to be perfect - love incarnate on the earth

Trust in His Love 🙂
 
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