I agree it is not analogous because of the many Christian denominations. But I was asked by the poster how I would feel if a Christian called himself a “fulfilled covenant Jew,” and my response is I would not mind or try to second guess his religious identity or faith.
Ok, that’s interesting. I tried to make what I said as nice as possible. Sometimes I have been accused of attacking people beliefs when I question them. I don’t know why.
Concretely, 2, baptism and communion. Many would say absolution is a sacrament. Things like confirmation, marriage, etc. we do see as distinctly Christian rites, but do not call them sacraments, according to how we define a sacrament.
That is because in Germany at the time of the Reformation, the Church used Christlische in the creed. Since Luther used that in the Small Catechism, it was translated Christian in the English and has since stayed. Not every Lutheran church uses it though. I know of many that say catholic when the creed is said at liturgy.
How would you define a sacrament?
Which I admit surprises me. I’d think that if one ascribes to a set of beliefs that are commonly referred to by a name for convenience, that people would be bothered when others with different and contrary ideas attempt to appropriate that name. In some cases, it has a smell of an illegitimate attempt to legitimize one’s own ideas by riding the reputation of other ideas.
Something instituted by Christ during His earthly ministry, specifically for use by and only by the Church as part of her apostolic mission.
What if they defined themselves as ultaorthodox (reformed).
If memory serves me, after Catholics and Orthodox, Lutherans are the largest body. If Anglicans are 4th, it’d be a pretty close 4th.
Or, 7 sacraments, depending on which Anglican you ask. Or maybe another number.
Yes the anglican communion is still the 3rd largest body after the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches.
All of them I know would. And maybe a few others. I hate predicting Anglicans. They’re so , something or other.
That’s what Lutherans originally called themselves, and Luther’s preferred term. Lutheran is a name originally called by opponents. But like Mormons and Moonies and Methodists, the name stuck.
Reform Jews tend to be more inclusive although I am expressing my own views on the issue rather than those of any stream of Judaism.
The term sacrament is used by some within Lutheran circles more broadly, so the “count” would be three. Others use it more narrowly, counting two (considering Absolution as an extension of Baptism). It isn’t a point of dispute, as all Lutherans consider confession/Absolution as a means of grace.
