Why do Mormons believe that God the Father has a physical body?

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It’s just another one of those doctrines that Smith developed. Early Mormons didn’t always believe in this though, if we take a look at Joseph Smith’s earliest writings (i.e The Book of Mormon) you will see he was very much a Modalist. He published The Book of Mormon in 1830, but by 1832 Smith’s thought on God started to change drastically. By 1844 he had completely developed the doctrine of the Mormon Godhead, which is what Mormons now believe in today. Smith heavily developed his doctrine after The Book of Mormon was published, that’s why there is so much contradiction between early Smith and the later Smith. Just take a look at some of his later sermons and Doctrines and Covenants compared to the earlier Book of Mormon.
 
I actually want a copy of the Book of Mormon, what I do not want to do is give the LDS church my address, Thank goodness for the interwebs! I am going to read it when I get the time. I read some when I was a child, and for, whatever reason, I have been to an LDS chapel. Anyway, I don’t remember too terribly much of the book, I do remember my sisters had copies of it, and I remember reading it at a dentist office. I mean, that was like 21 years ago. I find it interesting that this is no longer a uniquely Mormon belief. I’ve found that some Pentecostals also believe this.
 
I actually want a copy of the Book of Mormon, what I do not want to do is give the LDS church my address, Thank goodness for the interwebs!
You can read it here if you like: https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm?lang=eng

It is good to get a sense of what they believe in, and also as to how Mormon doctrine developed. Contrary to their claims, it’s not the “most correct book ever written.” It has many many many flaws, especially in light of recent archaeological, DNA, and linguistic evidence. And of course you have the later Smith contradicting what he originally wrote in The Book of Mormon.
I find it interesting that this is no longer a uniquely Mormon belief. I’ve found that some Pentecostals also believe this.
Really now? I was not aware of that at all. Do any specific groups of Pentecostals hold to it?
 
I was actually watching Tim Staples taking about it on youtube. It was one of the times he was on The Journey Home. He mentioned some names but I don’t recall all of them.
 
Thank you. Do you know when those were given/published? He does seem to have developed his view of God a little more, moving away from a Modalistic stance to more of a semi-Binitarian view (I say semi-Binitarian because although he does seem to acknowledge the Holy Spirit as having the same nature as the Father and the Son, he still places him in a subordinate position to both of them, making the Father and Son equal, and making the Holy Spirit lesser).
 
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Actually, upon further reading of that article he does seem to imply they are different beings rather than sharing the same nature, but he does makes some confusing statements. In the opening he says the Godhead is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, but then in the Q&A section he says the Godhead is only the Father and the Son whilst excluding the Holy Spirit.
 
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Interesting… I wonder what could Smith have been thinking?
 
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I actually just found something interesting that might explain the confusion in the Lecture:


This site claims that Smith saw the Holy Spirit as the uniting principle of the Father and the Son, not as a distinct personage of his own which he didn’t begin to teach until later. That’s why the opening and the Q&A may seem contradictory, but really are just putting emphasis on different things. It does seem to fit in well with how it’s explained in the lecture as well.

It also shows an interesting chart of his transition. He basically went from Modalism, to Ditheism, and finally Tritheism.
 
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Indeed, but the Heavenly Mother isn’t considered apart of the Godhead in Mormonism and she isn’t really worshiped.
 
We believe that God the Father has a body because that truth has been revealed to us by a prophet. Fortunately this truth squares with Holy Scripture. Here is a list of verses that we believe supports our belief: God, Body of, Corporeal Nature

Regarding John 4:24, here’s what FAIR Mormon says on the topic: Question: How is John 4:24 used as a proof-text by critics of Mormon doctrine of the corporeal nature of God? - FAIR

Christopher Stead of the Cambridge Divinity School (non-Mormon scholar) explains how a statement that God is spirit would have been interpreted within ancient Judaism:

By saying that God is spiritual, we do not mean that he has no body … but rather that he is the source of a mysterious life-giving power and energy that animates the human body, and himself possesses this energy in the fullest measure. (Christopher Stead, Philosophy in Christian Antiquity (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1994), 98)

I hope this helps…
 
We believe that God the Father has a body because that truth has been revealed to us by a prophet. Fortunately this truth squares with Holy Scripture. Here is a list of verses that we believe supports our belief: God, Body of, Corporeal Nature
Does God have wings? (Ruth 2:12, Psalms 91:4, Psalms 36:7, Psalms 61:4, Psalms 57:1) Does God also roar like a lion? (Hosea 11:10, Joel 3:16, Amos 1:2). Why shouldn’t we interpret these as literal physical characteristics of God in your logic?

The anthropomorphic verses prove nothing about God, it is quite evident that they’re to be taken metaphorically. If we’re going to take anthropomorphic verses about God literally, we might as well take anthropomorphic verses about animals literally, such as in Numbers 22:28, when God causes a donkey to speak. Should we also then take anthropomorphic verses about trees literally too, since we find in Judges 9 the trees speaking to one another, and anointing one among them as a king.

But throughout the Bible, God is continually shown to have no physical containment. The most explicit reference to God being spirit is made in John 4:24, but at the moment I will hold off from that and very briefly examine where other references occur. Let us take Number 23:19, for example, which says, “God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind.” Here, it is clearly states that God is not a man, and that his nature is far above that of man’s. In Deuteronomy 4:15 we read of God, “You saw no form of any kind the day the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the fire.” God has no form, and although he often manifest himself as divine light (these are his uncreated energies), as Paul tells us in 1 Timothy 6:16, he is shown here to be wholly incorporeal, having no true form. Let us quickly go over into Paul, where in 1 Timothy 1:17 he says, “Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen” Paul here tells us that God is invisible and eternal, he rejects any notion of God possessing anything mortal.

Reading the anthropomorphic texts of the Bible literally is not only completely erroneous, but a great dishonor to the text itself. Old Testament scholar, Ludwig Köhler says:
One realizes at this point the function of the anthropomorphisms. Their intention is not in the least to reduce God to a rank similar to that of man. To describe God in terms of human characteristics is not to humanize him. That has never happened except in unreasonable polemic. Rather the purpose of anthropomorphisms is to make God accessible to man. - Old Testament Theology, pp. 22-25.
Another Old Testament scholar, Roberto Sirvent, though slightly more critical, says:
“The [ancient] rabbis, for instance, generally thought that God has not eyes with which to see literally, or actual legs with which to stand.” - Embracing Vulnerability: Human and Divine
 
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(Note: Read the article for the context of these paragraph I have written, I am not going to quote each line from the article when making my two individual responses in the different paragraphs.)

The author here misses the point about both of the passages he references, and instead attempts to manipulate them into saying something about Mormonism. This tactic isn’t entirely atypical for Mormons.

First, when we read the context of John 4, the author is right in telling us that Christ is teaching that the manner of worship is not important, but then he completely misses the point when Christ gives us an explanation of his teaching in John 4:24. The context of this passage is the Samaritans woman polemic over the proper place to worship, either in Jerusalem, as the Jews say, or on Mount Gerizim, as the Samaritans say. In John 4:20, the Samaritan woman says, “Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.” As we know from 1 Kings 8:11, and 2 Chronicles 5:14, the Temple(s) (the Samaritans at one time had a Temple of their own, until it was destroyed in the 2nd Century B.C) were believed the house the very presence of God at its fullest. Indeed, even after the destruction of both them, God was still thought of as being most present in these particular areas, and that is why the Temple Mount is still of such great importance in Judaism today. Because of this belief among both Jews and Samaritans, they thought, “how could we worship anywhere else where God is not fully contained?” But Jesus tells us something quite different, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.” (John 4:21). Jesus makes a very radical departure from both Judaism and Samaritanism. He goes onto tell her that the Father seeks those who worship him in spirit and in truth (John 4:23), and his explanation for all of this is found in the next verse, John 4:24, where he says “God is spirit”; by telling the Samaritan women that God is spirit, he is telling her that God cannot be contained in a physical location because God himself is not physical, instead he is spiritual and can be present anywhere, so true worship comes not from worshiping at a mountain, but rather worship must be spiritual [in spirit] and in truth. Indeed, in Luke 24:39, Jesus himself says, “spirit does not have flesh and bones.”

Now, as for the authors interpretation of John 3:6, again, he is manipulating the actual meaning. In the context of the verse, Jesus is speaking to Nicodemus about being born again, that is, a spiritual renewal. In John 3:3 Jesus says, “Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God”, (this verse can actually be translated from the Greek in two ways, either as “born again” or "born from above). Now, Nicodemus of course questions him about this (John 3:4), and Jesus explains to him in John 3:5-6, (jumping to John 3:6 here) “That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” That is, those who are of the flesh will do the ways of the flesh, but those who are of the spirit, having gone through spiritual renewal, will act according to the ways of the spirit (Romans 8:5), because the flesh and spirit are contrary to one another (Galatians 5:17).

The authors manipulation of the verses here are astounding, he wants to cause the reader to completely miss the point of what the verses are actually saying, and instead tries to feed them into Mormon doctrine when they both really having nothing to do with Mormon doctrine.
 
Now I’d also like to add that there is nothing in the early Church to indicate that God was seen as a physical material being. All the quotes we do have about this in the early Church by the Church Fathers are against it.

“Our God has no introduction in time. He alone is without beginning, and is himself the beginning of all things. God is a spirit, not attending upon matter, but the maker of material spirits and of the appearances which are in matter. He is invisible, being himself the Father of both sensible and invisible things” - Tatian the Syrian (Address to the Greeks 4 [A.D. 170]).

“I have sufficiently demonstrated that we are not atheists, since we acknowledge one God, unbegotten, eternal, invisible, incapable of being acted upon, incomprehensible, unbounded, who is known only by understanding and reason, who is encompassed by light and beauty and spirit and indescribable power, by whom all things, through his Word, have been produced and set in order and are kept in existence” - Athenagoras (Plea for the Christians 10 [A.D. 177]).

“Far removed is the Father of all from those things which operate among men, the affections and passions. He is simple, not composed of parts, without structure, altogether like and equal to himself alone. He is all mind, all spirit, all thought, all intelligence, all reason . . . all light, all fountain of every good, and this is the manner in which the religious and the pious are accustomed to speak of God” - Irenaeus of Lyons (Against Heresies 2:13:3 [A.D. 189]).

“Being is in God. God is divine being, eternal and without beginning, incorporeal and illimitable, and the cause of what exists. Being is that which wholly subsists. Nature is the truth of things, or the inner reality of them. According to others, it is the production of what has come to existence; and according to others, again, it is the providence of God, causing the being, and the manner of being, in the things which are produced” - Clement of Alexandria (Fragment from On Providence [A.D. 200]).

“What is God? ‘God,’ as the Lord says, ‘is a spirit.’ Now spirit is properly substance, incorporeal, and uncircumscribed. And that is incorporeal which does not consist of a body, or whose existence is not according to breadth, length, and depth. And that is uncircumscribed which has no place, which is wholly in all, and in each entire, and the same in itself” - Clement of Alexandria (ibid.).

“Since our mind is in itself unable to behold God as he is, it knows the Father of the universe from the beauty of his works and from the elegance of his creatures. God, therefore, is not to be thought of as being either a body or as existing in a body, but as a simple intellectual being, admitting within himself no addition of any kind” - Origen (Fundamental Doctrines 1:1:6 [A.D. 225]).

There is absolutely no evidence that doctrine of God being corporeal was apart of the early Church, the early Church actually wholly rejected it.
 
By that same logic, Jesus is a four-legged animal that says, “Bahhhhhhh”
 
Does God have wings? (Ruth 2:12, Psalms 91:4, Psalms 36:7, Psalms 61:4, Psalms 57:1) Does God also roar like a lion? (Hosea 11:10, Joel 3:16, Amos 1:2). Why shouldn’t we interpret these as literal physical characteristics of God in your logic?
The anthropomorphic verses prove nothing about God, it is quite evident that they’re to be taken metaphorically. If we’re going to take anthropomorphic verses about God literally, we might as well take anthropomorphic verses about animals literally, such as in Numbers 22:28, when God causes a donkey to speak. Should we also then take anthropomorphic verses about trees literally too, since we find in Judges 9 the trees speaking to one another, and anointing one among them as a king.
We ought to take the Bible at face value when it says God created man in His own Image per Genesis 1:27, and we ought to take Paul at his word when he says that Jesus is the express image of God per Hebrews 1:3. “express image” means similar in every way. There are no statements less ambiguous than these.
But throughout the Bible, God is continually shown to have no physical containment.
Except when He’s walking in the Garden of Eden per Genesis 3:8, and in His temple per Habakkuk 2:20.
The most explicit reference to God being spirit is made in John 4:24, but at the moment I will hold off from that and very briefly examine where other references occur. Let us take Number 23:19, for example, which says, “God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind.” Here, it is clearly states that God is not a man, and that his nature is far above that of man’s. In Deuteronomy 4:15 we read of God, “You saw no form of any kind the day the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the fire.” God has no form, and although he often manifest himself as divine light (these are his uncreated energies), as Paul tells us in 1 Timothy 6:16, he is shown here to be wholly incorporeal, having no true form. Let us quickly go over into Paul, where in 1 Timothy 1:17 he says, “Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen” Paul here tells us that God is invisible and eternal, he rejects any notion of God possessing anything mortal.
Some of these verses refer to the righteousness of God, not physical characteristics. As far as God being invisible, how did Abraham (Genesis 17:2), Jacob (Genesis 32:30), Moses (Exodus 33:23), and Stephen (Acts 7:55) come to see the living God?
 
Now I’d also like to add that there is nothing in the early Church to indicate that God was seen as a physical material being. All the quotes we do have about this in the early Church by the Church Fathers are against it.

There is absolutely no evidence that doctrine of God being corporeal was apart of the early Church, the early Church actually wholly rejected it.
I’m glad I can enlighten you a bit on this topic!!

In the Clementine Homilies, Peter is quoted as saying that man is in the image of God: “And Simon said: ‘I should like to know Peter, if you really believe that the shape of man has been moulded after the shape of God.’ And Peter said: 'I am really quite certain, Simon, that this is the case… It is the shape of the just God.” (The Anti-Nicene Fathers 8:316)

Origen said the issue wasn’t settled in his day. “For it is also to be a subject of investigation how God himself is to be understood, – whether as corporeal and formed according to some shape, or of a different nature from bodies, – a point which is not clearly indicated in our teaching, and the same inquiries have been made regarding Christ and the Holy Spirit”. (The Anti-Nicene Fathers 4:241)
 
Early Mormons didn’t always believe in this though, if we take a look at Joseph Smith’s earliest writings (i.e The Book of Mormon) you will see he was very much a Modalist.
Can you provide any names of early Mormons who believed in an incorporeal God? Here is an early Mormon who didn’t:

Joseph Smith’s mother, Lucy Mack Smith, noted that other Christian denominations took issue with the new Church because of its teachings about God, noting that in 1830 “the different denominations are very much opposed to us… The Methodists also come, and they rage, for they worship a God without body or parts, and they know that our faith comes in contact with this principle” (Lucy Mack Smith, The History of Joseph Smith By His Mother Lucy Mack Smith, edited by Preston Nibley, (Salt Lake City, Utah: Bookcraft, 1956), 161. AISN B000FH6N04)
 
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