Why Do Mormons Use Kjv Of The Bible

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They were good scholars, and they compared their translations with all the major translations that had previously been made to make sure theirs was as acurate as possible; but that does not mean that they were unduly influenced by them. Tyndale’s translation had the greatest influence, as far as “influence” goes.

zerinus
I actually asked someone else this question earlier but he didn’t know. With the discovery of the dead sea scrolls in aramaic is it possible that the LDS Church might add what is usually called the apocrypha to the official church cannon?
 
They were good scholars, and they compared their translations with all the major translations that had previously been made to make sure theirs was as acurate as possible; but that does not mean that they were unduly influenced by them. Tyndale’s translation had the greatest influence, as far as “influence” goes.

zerinus
Perhaps you missed my post,

King James Version
The Authorized King James Version is an English translation of the Christian Bible begun in 1604 and first published in 1611 by the Church of England. The Great Bible was the first “authorized version” issued by the Church of England in the reign of King Henry VIII.[3] In January 1604, King James I of England convened the Hampton Court Conference where a new English version was conceived in response to the perceived problems of the earlier translations as detected by the Puritans, a faction within the Church of England.
The king gave the translators instructions designed to guarantee that the new version would conform to the ecclesiology and reflect the episcopal structure of the Church of England and its beliefs about an ordained clergy.
 
Slightly off track, I am interested to know why so many Catholics are so interested in Mormonism and entertain them when they are so insulting to us?

A family member of mine when her husband was at Mass, was visited by Mormons, on explaining she was not interested as she was married to and respected Catholicism, the guys completely demolished her, convinced her she was already numbered among the dead and she had a nervous breakdown.

I would go to the aid of anyone, anyone that is except for a Mormon.For two men to gang up on and bully a woman into a nervious breakdown is to my mind so so sick yet Catholics everywhere [least over here] seem to go to extraordinary lengths to entertain them.???

Blessings and peace
Speaking in terms of religion I could not disagree more with them. But as people and I have worked with many, I found them to be great people.

I live in an Anti-Catholic and Anti-Mormon location so I guess we had something in common. I haven’t gotten any trouble from them at all. Btu that is just my personal experiance.
 
The original manuscripts still exist, and can be compared to.
OK. I was refering to the Golden Plates, as that most closely parallels the translation situation of the Bible, but taking what you said to be true: What then do you think accounts for the quantitative and (more importantly) qualitative changes to the BoM, in the absence of translation issues? What reason could there be for the sorts of changes written about on the page I linked?
 
I actually asked someone else this question earlier but he didn’t know. With the discovery of the dead sea scrolls in aramaic is it possible that the LDS Church might add what is usually called the apocrypha to the official church cannon?
Why should the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls make a diference?

zerinus
 
Why should the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls make a diference?

zerinus
Because they were not found to be written in Aramaic or Hebrew, Luther would not allow them full status as he did with the rest of the bible. To him they became the apocrypha. See the Council of Jamnia around 70 AD. That is where the Jewish Canon was set.

Had the protestants known about the dead sea scrolls it would be interesting to have seen their reaction to it at the time Luther set his cannon.

Theoretically it might change the current cannon of the Protestant bible. And therefor change much of their theology…
 
like i said, having 16 different bibles is the silliest thing in the world. I can imagine sitting there and reading from 16 different books all trying to teach the same thing. Except they probably don’t teach the same thing. They probably teach different things.

If that’s what religion has come to, its a joke.
If they teach different things? You are making stuff up. If you take 16 Bibles, and they all say the same thing but the one, well then, you know the one is up in the night.

And that is how it is. Pick up 16 Bibles, and read them, if they all say the same thing then you know the one that says something different has been modified outside of original texts (as original as we can get).

Also, I wonder if you are confusing translation with interpretation? And even that against what JS did, which was more imagination.
 
Because they were not found to be written in Aramaic or Hebrew, Luther would not allow them full status as he did with the rest of the bible. To him they became the apocrypha. See the Council of Jamnia around 70 AD. That is where the Jewish Canon was set.

Had the protestants known about the dead sea scrolls it would be interesting to have seen their reaction to it at the time Luther set his cannon.

Theoretically it might change the current cannon of the Protestant bible. And therefor change much of their theology…
I don’t know why the Protestants had rejected the apocrypha. Our reasons were not the same as theirs. We excluded the apocrypha from the Bible by the commandment of the Lord; and the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls does not alter that:

D&C 91:

1 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you concerning the Apocrypha—There are many things contained therein that are true, and it is mostly translated correctly;

2 There are many things contained therein that are not true, which are interpolations by the hands of men.

3 Verily, I say unto you, that it is not needful that the Apocrypha should be translated.

4 Therefore, whoso readeth it, let him understand, for the Spirit manifesteth truth;

5 And whoso is enlightened by the Spirit shall obtain benefit therefrom;

6 And whoso receiveth not by the Spirit, cannot be benefited. Therefore it is not needful that it should be translated. Amen.

It does not say that the apocrypha is completely bad. But it is not inspired scripture either.

zerinus
 
Was that command given in the book of mormon? or to the Prophets?
That scripture is section 91 of the Doctrine and Covenants. We have three additional volumes of scripture besides the Bible; they are the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price.

zerinus
 
Slightly off track, I am interested to know why so many Catholics are so interested in Mormonism and entertain them when they are so insulting to us?
To answer your slightly off track question, I believe it is because most people in the United States are taught “toleration at any cost”. And in my specific case, I had no interest at all in them until they got my daughter. In an attempt to live peacefully (and because I now have frequent door-to-door Mormon missionaries), I tried to learn as much as I could. And while I agree, that there is sometimes “less than nice” behavior, I don’t think that gives us the right to return that “less than nice” behavior. IMO, we who are Catholics have a duty toward “noblesse oblige”. (Perhaps I should be more like the Early Church Fathers and treat them as they are–usurpers and poachers of Christ’s Church, but …)

To the original question–my convert daughter wanted my KJV (I have other translations since I like to compare the verses–English is a living language and original concepts do change over years and it helps understanding to compare) and several sets of Mormon missionaries have insisted on only KJV Bibles.
 
Have you guys found archaeological evidence of the Lamanites and uhmm what was the other tribe again?:confused:
 
Have you guys found archaeological evidence of the Lamanites and uhmm what was the other tribe again?:confused:
If you are looking to archaeology to bolster your faith in religion you are looking in the wrong place.

zerinus
 
Can anyone find here a news clip to that early church in syria that goes back to apostolic times? They found it under a modern church a few months back. Let me go and see if I can find it. Help me out.
 
If you are looking to archaeology to bolster your faith in religion you are looking in the wrong place.

zerinus
Yeah, cos don’t you know that there were never any such people as Ethiopians, Canaanites, Aramaeans, Arabs, etc.! The Bible made all of those people up! Looking for evidence is useless… 😛
 
I was wondering how he would choose to say, no.
The answer to that is actually yes. See the videos that why me gave in this thread:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=262752
Great point to make if I was a Mormon. Hmmm that gives me an idea…
Can anyone find here a news clip to that early church in syria that goes back to apostolic times? They found it under a modern church a few months back. Let me go and see if I can find it. Help me out.
I wrote an article about that in my Blog, that you might find interesting:

zerinus.blogspot.com/2007/08/archaeology-and-book-of-mormon.html

See also the videos in the above link.

zerinus
 
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