Why do Mullahs and Imams Enter Christianity ?

[franki_rulz]

…Sorry wrong post…

 

[franki_rulz]

Very few outside of Islam see it as a beautiful religion.
Considering the violence that muhammad personally and Islam generally has brought upon the world I can honestly say that i find it exceedingly unlikely that Islam was revealed by God.

Thank the lord for you to be living in Australia.Had you said that in a muslim country, you would have been dead meat man!.

 

[franki_rulz]

That man had 12 wives and so many keeps.But he set a rule of only 4 wives for his followers…can you answer y?

can any muslim answer that question? Ive asked so many muslim that question and all I got is an angry stare(thankfully, I am a bodybuilder and bigger than most average indians, so when I post this question to Indian muslims,all they can do is starve at me in anger, as if Ive pulled their pants down in public!

 

[Christos]

can any muslim answer that question? Ive asked so many muslim that question and all I got is an angry stare(thankfully, I am a bodybuilder and bigger than most average indians, so when I post this question to Indian muslims,all they can do is starve at me in anger, as if Ive pulled their pants down in public!

I haven’t been online for a while, just life, but I may be back for a couple days. Not sure though. However, in response to your question. I’m sure if you weren’t so intimidating to those people, they would be able to answer you. I’m just kidding. However, the answer is simple, and if you read his biography you will see, but I can tell that you never had the time to fully read his biography, as probably the many Muslims you have asked.

Its the simple answer, he wasn’t married to more than four at one time. You must have thought of your self as a genius for thinking up that one, when no one else could, but if you did a little research you would have seen that he was never married to more than 4 at a time.

I would so love to reply to all the posts in this forum, just so little time, and so much untrue, absurd comments about the prophet.

Just a question, do people not feel ashamed when they accuse and insult others, whether dead or alive, of horrible deeds. I can’t say that I haven’t done so myself, but only because I have been pushed to a corner or have been offended myself, and even then I feel ashamed. Do you people not feel ashamed? Making these remarks. Is this what teachings of Jesus you bring forward.

I have had many conversations with Christians, Jews, Hindus, and even people from the Shia sect of Islam, but I’ve never had any of them make any such accusations, unless phrased in a really polite honest question.

I hope we can have people speaking here more respectfully.
Thanks.

 

[Jay53]

I haven’t been online for a while, just life, but I may be back for a couple days. Not sure though. However, in response to your question. I’m sure if you weren’t so intimidating to those people, they would be able to answer you. I’m just kidding. However, the answer is simple, and if you read his biography you will see, but I can tell that you never had the time to fully read his biography, as probably the many Muslims you have asked.

Its the simple answer, he wasn’t married to more than four at one time. You must have thought of your self as a genius for thinking up that one, when no one else could, but if you did a little research you would have seen that he was never married to more than 4 at a time.

I would so love to reply to all the posts in this forum, just so little time, and so much untrue, absurd comments about the prophet.

Just a question, do people not feel ashamed when they accuse and insult others, whether dead or alive, of horrible deeds. I can’t say that I haven’t done so myself, but only because I have been pushed to a corner or have been offended myself, and even then I feel ashamed. Do you people not feel ashamed? Making these remarks. Is this what teachings of Jesus you bring forward.

I have had many conversations with Christians, Jews, Hindus, and even people from the Shia sect of Islam, but I’ve never had any of them make any such accusations, unless phrased in a really polite honest question.

I hope we can have people speaking here more respectfully.
Thanks.

If what you say is correct, then you need to correct Islamic writers who are teaching Muslims otherwise:

Who Were the Prophet’s Wives?

Prophet Muhammad married 12 wives in his life. When he died he had 9 wives. They have a very special status in the hearts of Muslims as the “Mothers of the Believers,” as the Qur’an instructs, and they are the source of a great amount of wisdom which they learned while living close to such a great man. Perhaps you’d like to research a bit to find their beautiful stories, so here are their names: Khadijah bint Khuwaylid, Sawdah bint Zam’ah, A'ishah bint Abi Bakr, Hafsah bint Umar ibn Al-Khattab, Zaynab bint Khuzaymah, Umm Salama, Zaynab bint Jahsh, Juwayriah bint Al-Harith, Umm Habibah, Safiyah bint Huyay ibn Akhtab, Maymunah bint Al-Harith, Maria the Copt. readingislam.com/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1179664473565&pagename=Zone-English-Discover_Islam/DIELayout

I also haven’t looked up all of them, but judging by the timeline, the above writer would seem to be correct - I’ve found at least 5 that Muhammad was married to at the same time:

Zaynab bint Hajash - married in 627 (she died in 641)
Habiba - married in 628 (she died in 664)
Hafsa - married in 625 (she died in 665)
Aisha - married in 619 (she died in 678)
Salama - married in 626 (she died in 681)
(These 5 all died after Muhammad, so we cannot conclude that he waited to marry again until one of his 4 wives died before marrying another to keep the total at 4.)

easyislam.com/chronology_of_events_in_the_life_of_muhammad.asp
iqra.net/articles/muslims/family4.php

If someone wants to look up the rest, feel free, but since I found more than 4, this leads me to believe that Christos is mistaken.

 

[franki_rulz]

I haven’t been online for a while, just life, but I may be back for a couple days. Not sure though. However, in response to your question. I’m sure if you weren’t so intimidating to those people, they would be able to answer you. I’m just kidding. However, the answer is simple, and if you read his biography you will see, but I can tell that you never had the time to fully read his biography, as probably the many Muslims you have asked.

Its the simple answer, he wasn’t married to more than four at one time. You must have thought of your self as a genius for thinking up that one, when no one else could, but if you did a little research you would have seen that he was never married to more than 4 at a time.

I would so love to reply to all the posts in this forum, just so little time, and so much untrue, absurd comments about the prophet.

Just a question, do people not feel ashamed when they accuse and insult others, whether dead or alive, of horrible deeds. I can’t say that I haven’t done so myself, but only because I have been pushed to a corner or have been offended myself, and even then I feel ashamed. Do you people not feel ashamed? Making these remarks. Is this what teachings of Jesus you bring forward.

I have had many conversations with Christians, Jews, Hindus, and even people from the Shia sect of Islam, but I’ve never had any of them make any such accusations, unless phrased in a really polite honest question.

I hope we can have people speaking here more respectfully.
Thanks.

I know how u feel, the truth is always bitter my friend, you have no answer to my question.

I also think Jay has countered your claim. Btw, I love to see the way muslims try to justify the act of the self proclaimed prophet(I call him self proclaimed coz I dont think he is a prophet from any angle). (oh btw, your so called scholar on islam, zakir naik also hasnt been able to answer this question, I happend to visit one of his “enlighting” sessions on islam and when I asked him this question, he just ignored it! so much for islam being a scientific and logical religion!

I do not despise muslims, I rather look at them as people who are so deeply captivated by their satanic faith that they fail to see what bull**** their religion is actually filled with.
but yes I do have a problem with the quran, no other holy book is filled with such hatred towards mankind like your holy book is.

If you are really such an intelligent and sane person, read the quran from a neutral point of view(I know it is difficult but aint impossible) and then read the bible, you will see two contrasting worlds…then you come back and we can discuss more.
May the good lord show you the true path.

 

[swariffin]

That Indonesian Imam who left Islam and along with thousands of Muslims left Islam in very short period of time. His Name of Yusuf Ronni. He was a renowned Iman in Indonesia.

For Yusuf Ronni, you can contact Indonesia Church Association or abbreviated as PGI. Here is their web :
pgi.or.id/index.cfm?disp=hubungiKami

Yusuf now leads a community of ex-muslims association

Here is an link which lists several ex-mullahs(Rusli Nurpea, Rifai Burhanuddin, Yusuf Ronni, Subarang Tabe, Akmal Sani dll, semuanya) in Indonesia who left Islam and now Christians.
hamline.edu/apakabar/basisdata/1997/10/01/0030.ht ml

For Several more ex-mullahs you contact www.tiberias.or.id, Ask for the name of Hidayatullah, ex-mullah a chinese indonesian descendant Sudardmaji Said, his father owned the largest Mullahs school in Solo Regency.

I know him. I was even join one of his sermon live. He is practically a Methodist Priest now. Very fluent in the bible in the original language, caused he first studied the bible for the purpose of attacking Christianity through the bible. He was converted to Christianity right after he studied the bible. There was no “apparition” story known from him directly.

He originally belong to the royal family blood from Palembang tribe, which is traditionally muslims. In his youth, he liked to throw stones to the churches during masses. When he was converted, he was thrown out of his family completely naked. His family claimed that whatever he wore was from the muslim and would still belong to the muslim. Only by the good relationship with one of his neighbor (never mentioned by him) who threw a table cloth to cover his nakedness.

He seeked refuge in the nearby church, and accepted there. His family went to the court and persecute him for defaming Islam. There is a law in Indonesia prohibiting defaming any religion, but in practice, the law only protect Islam. He was tried, and sentenced to prison for 3 years. In the court room, he did not use any lawyer to defend himself. He based his defense solely from the bible verses, which off course fell into deaf ears from the muslim judges. The church members and the priest were afraid to testify for him, because they were under pressure. He was virtually alone in defense of himself, except Christ himself. The same thing that Christ helped St. Stephen in his defense before the Jewish court.

He started his new “career” after the jail term as a Christian priest. Through many Christian brothers and sisters, he was supported to find a new life in Christianity. He was accepted widely including in the Roman Catholic Community. For the years of his service, not a single time I heard that he “attack” other “branches” of Christianity.

Forget about the supernatural story about Yusuf Roni’s conversion. For sure, his conversion was through a lengthy process. I do have a Roman Catholic Priest who was from a Muslim family. His name is Ibnu Fajar Muhammad. He still retain his given name “Muhammad”. Another one, who is teaching in our school of theology, is Dr. Desi Ramadhani. He is a Jesuit priest, graduating from Gregorian University in Rome. He still used his given name “Ramadhani” which is originated from the word “Ramadhan”.

You see, when the Holy Spirit is calling, He did not care what religion or what society you belong. He just called anybody selected by God.

 

[Indica]

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