Why do Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet?

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Hello. I am a Catholic who has a question about Islam. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Islam teaches that Jesus was a prophet, but not the son of God. A prophet like, say, Isaiah, or Jeremiah. I don’t understand the belief for the following reason. Taken simply as historically accurate text (which may be my incorrect assumption according to Islam), the gospels claim that there existed this man named Jesus who claimed to be the son of God. Now, to me it seems that, based on his behavior, he either was the son of God, or he was a lunatic. I mean, no simply ‘‘good prophet’’ would claim to be the son of God, or on par with God. So if Islam taught that he was a nut, I would understand. Can anyone clear this up for me? I must be misunderstanding something, wheather it be how Muslims interpret the gospels or whatever. Thanks!
 
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bobby_bambino:
Hello. I am a Catholic who has a question about Islam. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Islam teaches that Jesus was a prophet, but not the son of God. A prophet like, say, Isaiah, or Jeremiah. I don’t understand the belief for the following reason. Taken simply as historically accurate text (which may be my incorrect assumption according to Islam), the gospels claim that there existed this man named Jesus who claimed to be the son of God. Now, to me it seems that, based on his behavior, he either was the son of God, or he was a lunatic. I mean, no simply ‘‘good prophet’’ would claim to be the son of God, or on par with God. So if Islam taught that he was a nut, I would understand. Can anyone clear this up for me? I must be misunderstanding something, wheather it be how Muslims interpret the gospels or whatever. Thanks!
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Muslims claim that Jesus was just a prophet so that their false prophet could be credible. But if Jesus is the Son of God, then Mohammed would have just been running around the desert on a camel looting caravans, and the whole world would have been a lot better off and we wouldn’t have terrorists killing people!
 
Hello Bobby. Before answering your question I ask you to look in your heart and ask yourself why you asked it. Did you ask it to learn, or was it more like an accusation. or were you trying to prove Islam (the religion you know so little about) to be flase?

I heard this from many Christians that Jesus peace be upon him is either the son of God or a lunatic. Why can’t he just be a Prophet? We believe he claimed to be a Prophet and Messenger of God and nothing more. For the Islamic view on Jesus peace be upon him read this link whyislam.org/877/Prophet%5FJesus/ If you have any more questions about Islam please join the WhyIslam forum and ask them there. There are many more Muslims there, many of whom are ex-catholics who will be more than happy to answer all your questions.

BookLover how do you link terrorists to the Prophet peace be upon him? I guess if I were to follow your logic I would have to say that if Christians didn’t believe that Jesus peace be upon him was the son of God we would have less homosexual priests molesting little boys. Is that all you know about the Prophet peace be upon him? Don’t you know all the good and upright things that he taught us? If you wish to learn more about them I will be more than happy to list them for you.

Before Muhammad peace be upon him claimed to be a Prophet he was known as “the trustworthy one” Do you know where his own enemies used to hide there money? Do you know where they used to keep their most precious possesions? They used to keep it with Muhammad peace be upon him. When he migrated from Mecca to Medina he could have easily took all that money with him, yet he left his cousin Ali behind to give back the trusts to their owners. He used to borrow money in order to give to the poor. He lived most of his life as a poor man. He would always be in the company of the poor people. The people of Quraish told him that they would give him all of the money he wanted if he gave up his message, yet he refused. If all he wanted to do was loot caravans why didn’t he accept the offer of Quraish to be their king and have all of the money he wanted? etc

I suggest you learn more about this man who you claim to be a flase prophet. Peace be upon those who seek to follow the true guidance.
 
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bobby_bambino:
Taken simply as historically accurate text (which may be my incorrect assumption according to Islam), the gospels claim that there existed this man named Jesus who claimed to be the son of God. Now, to me it seems that, based on his behavior, he either was the son of God, or he was a lunatic. I mean, no simply ‘‘good prophet’’ would claim to be the son of God, or on par with God. So if Islam taught that he was a nut, I would understand. Can anyone clear this up for me? I must be misunderstanding something, wheather it be how Muslims interpret the gospels or whatever. Thanks!
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Hi Bobby,

Muslims do not believe Jesus claimed himself to be Son of God. Rather we believe Jesus will renounce this claim on the Day of Judgement infront of God, as the Quran says:

And (remember) when Allâh (God) will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you say unto men: ‘Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allâh?’ " He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my innerself though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the AllKnower of all that is hidden and unseen. (Al-Ma’idah 5:116)

What we believe about Jesus is that (as the Quran says):

**The Messiah (Jesus), son of Mary, was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. His mother (Mary) was a Siddiqah . They both used to eat food (as any other human being, while Allâh does not eat). Look how We make the Proofs clear to them, yet look how they are deluded away (from the truth). (Al-Ma’idah 5:75)

O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allâh aught but the truth. The Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, was (no more than) a Messenger of Allâh and His Word, (“Be!” - and he was) which He bestowed on Mary and a spirit (Rûh) created by Him; so believe in Allâh and His Messengers. Say not: “Three (trinity)!” Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allâh is (the only) One Ilâh (God), Glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allâh is All*Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs. (An-Nisa 4:171)

**It befits not (the Majesty of) Allâh that He should beget a son. Glorified (be He). When He decrees a thing, He only says to it, “Be!” and it is. [Jesus said]: “And verily Allâh is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him (Alone). That is the Straight Path.”(**Maryam 19:35-36)

For more on Jesus and Mary, refer to the Quran chapters 3 “The Family of Imran”, chapter 5 “The Table Spread with Food”, and chapter 19 “Mary”.**
 
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Emad:
I heard this from many Christians that Jesus peace be upon him is either the son of God or a lunatic.
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what you heard is not correct!, if a person calls jesus a lunatic, he is not a christian,

for a christian point of view,Jesus is true God
 
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marlo:
what you heard is not correct!, if a person calls jesus a lunatic, he is not a christian,

for a christian point of view,Jesus is true God
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Maybe he meant christians and jews.
 
Thank you everyone! By the way, Emad, I most certainly asked this question out of curiosity and to learn more about Islam.
 
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Emad:
Hello Bobby.
I heard this from many Christians that Jesus peace be upon him is either the son of God or a lunatic. Why can’t he just be a Prophet? We believe he claimed to be a Prophet and Messenger of God and nothing more.
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Why can’t He be the Son of God and 2nd person of the Blessed Trinity?? Jesus never claimed that he was just a prophet! Mohammed said that and let’s face it, it was not to Mohammed’s advantage for people to believe that Jesus was the Son of God, was it? Would anyone believe in Mohammed if Jesus was indeed the Son of God??
BookLover how do you link terrorists to the Prophet peace be upon him? I guess if I were to follow your logic I would have to say that if Christians didn’t believe that Jesus peace be upon him was the son of God we would have less homosexual priests molesting little boys. Is that all you know about the Prophet peace be upon him? Don’t you know all the good and upright things that he taught us? If you wish to learn more about them I will be more than happy to list them for you.

Before Muhammad peace be upon him claimed to be a Prophet he was known as “the trustworthy one” Do you know where his own enemies used to hide there money? Do you know where they used to keep their most precious possesions? They used to keep it with Muhammad peace be upon him. When he migrated from Mecca to Medina he could have easily took all that money with him, yet he left his cousin Ali behind to give back the trusts to their owners. He used to borrow money in order to give to the poor. He lived most of his life as a poor man. He would always be in the company of the poor people. The people of Quraish told him that they would give him all of the money he wanted if he gave up his message, yet he refused. If all he wanted to do was loot caravans why didn’t he accept the offer of Quraish to be their king and have all of the money he wanted? etc

I suggest you learn more about this man who you claim to be a flase prophet. Peace be upon those who seek to follow the true guidance.
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I’ve read enough about Mohammed to know that what you’ve written is a highly fictionalized account of his life! the historical Mohammed committed many atrocities during his lifetime. He killed people and had people assassinated simply because they wouldn’t accept him as a prophet, among other things.
 
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Why can’t He be the Son of God and 2nd person of the Blessed Trinity?? Jesus never claimed that he was just a prophet! Mohammed said that and let’s face it, it was not to Mohammed’s advantage for people to believe that Jesus was the Son of God, was it? Would anyone believe in Mohammed if Jesus was indeed the Son of God??

You are free to believe he was the son of God if you want. However you make it seem like Mohammad peace be upon him was getting some kind of benefit out of claiming that he was a Prophet. Please show me that benefit.

I’ve read enough about Mohammed to know that what you’ve written is a highly fictionalized account of his life!

Prove it my friend. In Islam we have the Isnad system. Since you seem to know so much about Islam I am sure you know what that is and you don’t need me to explain it to you.

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Emad:
You are free to believe he was the son of God if you want. However you make it seem like Mohammad peace be upon him was getting some kind of benefit out of claiming that he was a Prophet. Please show me that benefit.
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You asked for motivation, here is one:

Jesus is the Son of God. That he came to earth to teach the Good News to all mankind. Kind of makes any subsequent profits superfluous, doesn’t it? There is no way Mohammad could recognize Jesus as the Son of God and still claim to be the one profit sent by God for the Arabs.
 
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Emad:
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Why can’t He be the Son of God and 2nd person of the Blessed Trinity?? Jesus never claimed that he was just a prophet! Mohammed said that and let’s face it, it was not to Mohammed’s advantage for people to believe that Jesus was the Son of God, was it? Would anyone believe in Mohammed if Jesus was indeed the Son of God??

You are free to believe he was the son of God if you want. However you make it seem like Mohammad peace be upon him was getting some kind of benefit out of claiming that he was a Prophet. Please show me that benefit.

I’ve read enough about Mohammed to know that what you’ve written is a highly fictionalized account of his life!

Prove it my friend. In Islam we have the Isnad system. Since you seem to know so much about Islam I am sure you know what that is and you don’t need me to explain it to you.

🙂
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Hi Emad. I looked up Isnad and here is what I got:

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The isnad (Arabic اسناد or in Qur’anic era Arabic اسند) are the citations or “backings” that establish the legitimacy of the hadith, which are the sayings of Muhammad, Prophet of Islam.

After Muhammad’s death in 632, Islam began to divide into factions based on different interpretations of his views. It became important to trace narrators to the source, and to investigate the reputation and reliability of that source for transmitting evidence - this developed into Ilm ar-rijal or the “science of biography”.

If I am reading correctly then the Qur’an IS written by men based of what they remember Mohammed saying. Am I wrong?
 
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Emad:
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Why can’t He be the Son of God and 2nd person of the Blessed Trinity?? Jesus never claimed that he was just a prophet! Mohammed said that and let’s face it, it was not to Mohammed’s advantage for people to believe that Jesus was the Son of God, was it? Would anyone believe in Mohammed if Jesus was indeed the Son of God??

You are free to believe he was the son of God if you want. However you make it seem like Mohammad peace be upon him was getting some kind of benefit out of claiming that he was a Prophet. Please show me that benefit.
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You can’t be serious! Of course Mohammed had to claim that Jesus Christ was a mere prophet in order to make himself credible. If Jesus Christ is the Son of God that means that Mohammed is not a real prophet at all!
Prove it my friend. In Islam we have the Isnad system. Since you seem to know so much about Islam I am sure you know what that is and you don’t need me to explain it to you.

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I’ve never claimed that I’m an expert on Islam! I have no idea what the Isnad system is.

But I’ll tell you one thing. If Mohammed had come to the Catholic church with his claims of having received divine revelation, and his only proof was a book, no matter how beautiful or whatever, he would never have been believed! It’s a heck of a lot easier to produce a beautiful piece of religious literature than to perform miraculous feats of nature! All the other prophets before Mohammed performed wonders so it seems very strange that Mohammed who claimed to be the seal of the prophets, could do none of these things! :rolleyes:
 
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iamrefreshed:
If I am reading correctly then the Qur’an IS written by men based of what they remember Mohammed saying. Am I wrong?
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There is a long standing tradition that Mohammed was illiterate (as were most Arabs of his time), he could not write the Qur’an himself.
 
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You can’t be serious! Of course Mohammed had to claim that Jesus Christ was a mere prophet in order to make himself credible. If Jesus Christ is the Son of God that means that Mohammed is not a real prophet at all!

This is not what I meant. I mean why would Muhammad peace be upon him claim to be a Prophet? What would he get out of it? His life after Prophethood was much harder than it was before it. If he was lying about being a Prophet he must have had a motive, my question to you is what was it?

It’s a heck of a lot easier to produce a beautiful piece of religious literature than to perform miraculous feats of nature! All the other prophets before Mohammed performed wonders so it seems very strange that Mohammed who claimed to be the seal of the prophets, could do none of these things!

What kind of miracles are you looking for? Muhammad peace be upon him did have other miracles, but his main and biggest miracle is the Quran. Muhammad peace be upon him healed the sick, split the moon, when there was a shortage of water, water gushed from between his fingers etc. Muhammad peace be upon him had many more miracles.
 
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Emad:
This is not what I meant. I mean why would Muhammad peace be upon him claim to be a Prophet? What would he get out of it? .
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Hard for someone 1500 years later to find the motivation of someone that long ago. We know he:
  1. Was against the selfish paganism in Mecca
  2. Was shagrinned that the Arabs had no covenant with God as he thought the Jews and Christians had (he didn’t really distinguish between the two here).
  3. As time went on, realized the need for a strong Arab unifying force in both religious and secular life.
  4. Some may also say he wanted to be a Sheik. He definitely embraced the role.
reference:

Islam : A Short History (Modern Library Chronicles) by Karen Armstrong
 
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iamrefreshed:
Hi Emad. I looked up Isnad and here is what I got:

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The isnad (Arabic اسناد or in Qur’anic era Arabic اسند) are the citations or “backings” that establish the legitimacy of the hadith, which are the sayings of Muhammad, Prophet of Islam.

After Muhammad’s death in 632, Islam began to divide into factions based on different interpretations of his views. It became important to trace narrators to the source, and to investigate the reputation and reliability of that source for transmitting evidence - this developed into Ilm ar-rijal or the “science of biography”.

If I am reading correctly then the Qur’an IS written by men based of what they remember Mohammed saying. Am I wrong?
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No the Isnad system was used for hadith. The Quran was memorized by hundreds of Muslims in the time of the Prophet peace be upon him, and today it is memorized by 100’s of thousands of Muslims.

Isnad is basically a chain of narrators back to the Prophet peace be upon him. No one can just come and say the Prophet peace be upon him said this or that. The scholars of hadith would study each narrator in the chain and they made sure that every narrator met the other. It is a science in Islam. Without it we wouldn’t know which sayings of the Prophet peace be upon him are authentic and which are fabricated. Today any saying of the Prophet peace be upon him is known, by its authenticity. This is why the saying of the Prophet peace be upon him can’t be fabricated fairy tales or a fictional account of his life as booklover said.
 
gilliam your claims really have no base. If he wanted to be a leader, the Quraish offered him leadership if he gave up his message, he refused. Anyone with half a brain would be against worshipping stones that can’t hear, see, benefit or harm. Are you saying he invented a new religion to unite the Arabs through it? 99% of the Arabs were already united on the religion of idol worship.

Here is a short copy/paste from another site:

If Muhammad was fake, then why did he turn down the big offer from his tribe to put him as their leader and make him one of their wealthiest for compromising some of his Divine Message?

If Muhammad was fake, then why did he put himself in the agony of not only praying five times a day (which is mandatory for all Muslims), but also prayed more prayers (which we call it Sunni praying)? If he was fake, then he wouldn’t go to this EXTREME to do such a thing EVERY SINGLE DAY OF HIS LIFE during his ministry?

If Muhammad was fake, then why did he put himself in the agony of fasting the entire month of what we call “Ramadan”? Not eating nor drinking from sun rise to sun set (approximately 12-14 hours) EVERYDAY FOR 30 DAYS is extremely difficult for a fake person to do!

If Muhammad was fake, then why did he forgive all of his enemies (especially the ones who raped many Muslim women) when he finally got them to surrender when he liberated the city of Mecca?
 
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What kind of miracles are you looking for? Muhammad peace be upon him did have other miracles, but his main and biggest miracle is the Quran. Muhammad peace be upon him healed the sick, split the moon, when there was a shortage of water, water gushed from between his fingers etc. Muhammad peace be upon him had many more miracles.
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Emad

In the Catholic Church, there are many holy people who like Padre Pio of Pietrelcina God responded with miracles in answer to their prayers WHILE THEY WERE STILL ALIVE.

After their deaths, people pray and ask these holy people for miracles. IF GOD ANSWERS WITH A MIRACLE, such as the sudden curing of a sick person that medical doctors cannot cure, THEN THAT BECOMES EVIDENCE THAT THE PERSON’S SOUL IS A FRIEND OF GOD AND IS IN HEAVEN.

TWO SUCH MIRACLES ARE NEEDED AFTER THE DEATH OF THE PERSON - IN ORDER FOR THE DEAD PERSON TO BE DECLARED A SAINT IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. (note: all past miracles when the person’s body was alive ARE EXCLUDED AND NOT COUNTED!!!)

Yet many of these Saints are NOT EVEN PROPHETS!!!

Muhammed is not only a prophet of the Muslims but CONSIDERED BY THE MUSLIMS AS THE LAST OR THE GREATEST OF ALL THE PROPHETS. IF SUCH IS THE CASE, NOW THAT THE BODY OF MUHAMMED IS DEAD, IT SHOULD BE VERY EASY FOR THE SOUL OF THE MUSLIM PROPHET MUHAMMED TO ASK GOD FOR MIRACLES GREATER DONE GOD HAS DONE FOR THESE CATHOLIC SAINTS.
 
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