Why do non catholics dislike Mother Mary?

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Timothy_Piper said:
You must have a mind of perversion; I belong to a church where the pastor is married with children, grown children and they not only understand the nature of parent-child relationships, but also have great insights to parenting, which you will get from experience. Many of the pastors children, serve to help other children grow by teaching Sunday School and Vacation Bible School. Therefore, if the priests were allowed to be married and have children; it would be a benefit to kids in that manner, not your perverted thinking.
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Well you never know. When you said that, it was just taken as another attack on the Catholic Church.
 
tweetymom said:
yes they do!
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I am the kind of person who tries to see the good in everyone so I will overlook that comment. I am not trying to cause any disturbance to this thread, but I am worried about the reasons behind some of the responses I am seeing.
 
Cristian_B said:
I will tell you guys a story which may seem familiar:

There was once a bride and a groom. The groom had to go in voyage to prepare the wedding, and unfortunately, he could not take the bride with him. He gave his bride detailed instructions on what she had to do while he was gone. Shortly before leaving, he told her that, just after leaving, he would send his friend to remind her everything he told her. Now, the groom did not put his bride in charge, but sent his friend to remind her what to do, thus he would still be in charge; though he was not there, his instructions would still remain. Because he gave detailed instructions on what to do in any case, it’s like if he would still be there.

The bride is the Church, the groom is Jesus and His friend is the Holy Spirit. Jesus did not put His Church in charge of His Law, but gave us the Holy Spirit to remind us His Law, His Sacrifice, His teachings and His promise. To say that the Church has authority to change His Law (based on the passage of Matthew 16:19) is madness. It’s like if His Bride rebelled, and that is she’s not under the Groom’s authority. The Holy Spirit takes what is Jesus’ and gives it to us (His Word). In this age, the Holy Spirit cannot change the Law, because he does not speak from himself, but from God/Jesus. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth. he only says what the Groom said. If he would speak from himself, he would be a liar. Therefore, Jesus did not put His Church in charge, or in His place. He sent the Holy Ghost (the Holy Spirit and Jesus are the same, based on the Trinity) to remind us that there is still a Law which we must follow. If the Holy Spirit is here, it means that Jesus is spiritually here as well and saying that you have the authority to change His Word, is like rebelling against Him under His surveillance.

Saying that you can change His Word is like making yourself equal with Him, or superior, which is blasphemy.
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Tastefully done and may God bless what you have written.
 
lil_flower_luv said:
I am the kind of person who tries to see the good in everyone so I will overlook that comment. I am not trying to cause any disturbance to this thread, but I am worried about the reasons behind some of the responses I am seeing.
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So glad that you try so do I. And I see a lot of disrturbing responses as well.
 
Prodigal_Son1 said:
Timothy,
I responded to your statements above in post 1187. I used scriptures to support Catholic belief on the subject of statues and relics and would be interested in seeing your response.
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The same, I will leave it between you and God; He has made it know in His first two commandments where He stands and has demonstrated the violation of such commandments and it wasn’t ever a pretty. So unless you are implying that God has contradicted Himself in post#1187, then that is a different issue and just as potentially frightening as I see it.
 
Dokimas said:
He would be with them in eccumenical decisions that would affect His flock. I don’t understand your meaning.He would be with them in eccumenical decisions that would affect His flock. I don’t understand your meaning.
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He was telling Church leaders that He would be with them as the Church grew, so they could make decisions concerning teachings/doctrines/beliefs, which certainly would affect His flock in the Church. In my opinion, it’s like He was defining how He would be with them so they could bind and loose on earth with confidence.
Dokimas said:
The first above were appointed by men, the latter was appointed by God. Who has more power to protect the original trutch? I missed something? What first, what latter?
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The first was the founding fathers of the country appointing legislative bodies over the constitution and the latter was talking about God giving us His inspired word in a written form and Christ appointing Church leaders.
Dokimas said:
Did God have a choice in that situation.? Didn’t they choose the two and kind of telling God He had to choose from these two? Non of the other disciples where chosen by casting lots.
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Remember, this was the first official action on the part of the Apostles. They cast lots trusting and praying to God.

**Act 1:24 And praying, they said: Thou, Lord, who knowest the heart of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, **

I believe Paul was added to show the Church would grow beyond the 12s ability to lead.
 
Aren’t these threads supposed to close after 1000 posts? Or has that rule changed?
 
Timothy_Piper said:
The same, I will leave it between you and God; He has made it know in His first two commandments where He stands and has demonstrated the violation of such commandments and it wasn’t ever a pretty. So unless you are implying that God has contradicted Himself in post#1187, then that is a different issue and just as potentially frightening as I see it.
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I’m not saying God contradicted Himself. I merely asked how could what you were saying be true if God’s plan included statues. I’d also provided scriptures from the inspired word of God showing there was good that came from relics in both the Old and New Testament.

I kindly ask that you stop making this personal and discuss the issues that you, yourself, brought up. You brought up it was wrong to have the statues and relics and I provided scriptures that do not seem to support what you’re saying.
 
lil_flower_luv said:
Well you never know. When you said that, it was just taken as another attack on the Catholic Church.
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Gets back to how the mind thinks. He even added; I noticed that I implied “saftety of children”, which tells one exactly where the mind is. I said it would be good or great for the kids and I still believe that because I witness the benefit in my own church as well as others. You also, participated in the perversion by acknowledging the nonsense. But; I have been so blessed here; that I am frankly overwhelmed and pray that God will return the same blessings. .)
 
sckcd said:
I don’t know anyone that dislikes Mary. But while most non-Catholics respect her for her role in bringing Jesus to us, we don’t regard her in the same sense Catholics do. I am in RCIA, learning about the church, but I just can’t see Mary like Catholics do. She did a wonderful thing, she played a major role by being His mother, and certainly deserves respect and admiration, but it sometimes seems she is focused on as much as Jesus and that just seems odd if you aren’t Catholic I guess. And as a non-Catholic it is hard to imagine praying to anyone else than Jesus (even though I know you aren’t really worshipping her).
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I have some non-Catholic friends who wonder the same thing. Here is what I tell them: Here on earth when we are faced with afflictions, don’t we go to our families and friends and ask them to pray for us. When we call on Mary , we are asking for her intercession, what a better way to ask for help with the praying by someone who is already up there.
 
Timothy_Piper said:
You won’t see many apologies; which is another indication of the heart.
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Timothy I will apology for them. I have never been apoligied by anyone here either, I am glad to have read all your post and your great understanding of Scripture. I agree with you 100% of what you have said and praise God for it. You are truly Blessed of God.
 
lil_flower_luv said:
I am the kind of person who tries to see the good in everyone so I will overlook that comment. I am not trying to cause any disturbance to this thread, but I am worried about the reasons behind some of the responses I am seeing.
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Do you have a couple of examples?
 
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