Why do non catholics dislike Mother Mary?

[Prodigal_Son1]

I guess I would worry about your mental state if after being shown the clear scripture about baptism and profession of faith you still refused but yes you would be welcomed as a member trusting that you would come to believe it eventually. that is my answer. I will ask my paster on sunday I would call him but I dont want to disturb him just to ask a hypothetical question.

So someone’s mental state should be questioned if they don’t agree with your interpretation of scriptures?

You deny the authority of the Catholic Church, but you have to ask your pastor on Sunday? Is he the authority of your Church? Does he interpret scriptures for you?

 

[Dokimas]

Martin Luther was given opportunities to avoid excommunications. It was his decisions that led to the excommunication.

Have you read Martin Luther’s 99 theses?

 

[Teneas]

I guess I would worry about your mental state if after being shown the clear scripture about baptism and profession of faith you still refused but yes you would be welcomed as a member trusting that you would come to believe it eventually. that is my answer. I will ask my paster on sunday I would call him but I dont want to disturb him just to ask a hypothetical question.

Just curious. Is it only your particular church building and congregation inside that hold the true interpretation of scripture?

 

[MyRdmrLvs]

If you go back and read my post you will see that it is the behavior that I judge, not the intent. Over time, the intent become obvious. There are several new members in this thread that are displaying a pattern of hostility and inflammatory posting that I have seen in the past and it has all lead to the same end.

Those people that want to continually claim that the Catholic Church teaches that we worship Mary and that the pope claims to be God and that we support burning people at the stake need to be confronted. There behavior is unacceptable and hostile.

here I will provide it for you.

“You use inflammatory words to stir negative emotion:tsktsk: and others have seen it and commented on it.”

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

Have you read Martin Luther’s 99 theses?

I agree with Martin Luther that the Church was in need of a reformation, but you cannot reform what you leave. Martin Luther made vows to God to enter into the priesthood. He threw aside those vows when he left the priesthood.

 

[PRmerger]

Such bad English; bet you’d never guess daughter #1 teaches 7th grade English.

You get an A for effert…er, I mean effort!

(I’d give you an A+ if you could just learn how to post your responses without nestling them in the original post. sigh!)

 

[Randy_Carson]

Peter did what he could: remind them, remind them, remind them. It has nothing that I can see about setting up successors that in and of themselves has a ‘Peter’ given authority.

Did you not read the passage from Irenaeus which specifically states that Peter DID appoint his successor, Linus?

And are you not familiar with the passage from Acts 1 in which Peter directs the Apostles to choose a replacement for Judas so that the office might be filled?

Paul passed on his authority to Timothy and Titus; Peter ordained Clement, Linus and Ignatius; John discipled Polycarp, etc.

 

[Dokimas]

I agree with Martin Luther that the Church was in need of a reformation, but you cannot reform what you leave. Martin Luther made vows to God to enter into the priesthood. He threw aside those vows when he left the priesthood.

Can you reform something that ‘kicks you out on your ear’ for bringing to light things that are wrong?

 

[Dokimas]

Did you not read the passage from Irenaeus which specifically states that Peter DID appoint his successor, Linus?

There is not a concensous whether it was Peter or Paul who appointed the next pastor at Rome.​

I’m not sure the disciples got the replacement for Judas correctly. I believe Paul was God’s choice.

 

[Randy_Carson]

There is not a concensous whether it was Peter or Paul who appointed the next pastor at Rome.

In whose minds?

 

[Dokimas]

You get an A for effert…er, I mean effort!

(I’d give you an A+ if you could just learn how to post your responses without nestling them in the original post. sigh!)

I’m not sure why its difficult for you??? I try to answer specific statements and it’s easier for me to do it my way. If you have another easy way, please try to explain it to me. Remember men have brain damage.

 

[Teneas]

Can you reform something that ‘kicks you out on your ear’ for bringing to light things that are wrong?

Yes, see Saint Francis of Assisi

 

[Teneas]

In whose minds?

In some non-Catholic Christians minds. I have come to realize that St. Paul is their “go to boy” to “disprove” most of our church’s teachings.

 

[tweetymom]

Look at it this way, Dokimas. Let’s say there’s someone who’s on a Muslim forum and she’s professing to be a Christian. She’s ostensibly presenting the Christian viewpoint, but she’ll say things like, *“I don’t believe Jesus is Divine. I think he was just a really good teacher. And, since my preacher knows this and he’s ok with it, and I’m ok with it, and God is ok with it, here you go!” * She does clarify and say, "I know Christianity says that Jesus is Divine, but I don’t believe everything Christianity says."

Of course, all the other Christians on this rhetorical Muslim forum must admonish and correct this sweet little old Christian great grandma, lest Muslims think she represents orthodox Christianity.

I am sweet and a greatgrandma, but 1 thing I ain’t is a little old lady.

 

[Dokimas]

In whose minds?

Wikipedia

The earliest witness is Irenaeus, who in about the year 180 wrote:“The blessed apostles, then, having founded and built up the Church, committed into the hands of Linus the office of the episcopate.”[1] The Oxford Dictionary of Popes interprets Irenaeus as saying that Linus was the first bishop of Rome.[2] Linus is presented by Jerome as “the first after Peter to be in charge of the Roman Church”,[3] by Eusebius, as “the first to receive the episcopate of the church at Rome, after the martyrdom of Paul and Peter”[4] by John Chrysostom as “second Bishop of the Church of Rome after Peter”,[5] while the Liberian Catalogue[6] presents Peter as the first Bishop of Rome and Linus as his successor in the same office. The Liber Pontificalis;[7] also presents a list that makes Linus the second in the line of bishops of Rome, after Peter; but at the same time it states that Peter ordained two bishops, Linus and Cletus, for the priestly service of the community, devoting himself instead to prayer and preaching, and that it was to Clement that he entrusted the Church as a whole, appointing him as his successor. Tertullian too makes Clement the successor of Peter.[8] And while, in another of his works, Jerome gives Clement as “the fourth bishop of Rome after Peter” (i.e., fourth in a series that included Peter), he adds that “most of the Latins think that Clement was second after the apostle”.[9]

 

[Randy_Carson]

I’m not sure why its difficult for you??? I try to answer specific statements and it’s easier for me to do it my way. If you have another easy way, please try to explain it to me. Remember men have brain damage.

How to use the Catholic Answers Forum Quote Function

If you want to respond to something that someone else posted, you can simply hit the “Quote” button on the lower right…not the “Post Reply” button on the lower left. Simply begin typing after the text that the forum automatically copies for you. That’s what I did at the beginning of this post above.

If you want to insert your comments into the middle of something you are quoting, you have to manually insert square brackets. Here is the original passage I want to comment on:

Mary had a little lamb whose fleece was black as soot, and everywhere that Mary went, his sooty foot he put.

In order to show you what you need to do, I have to use a different set of brackets for illustrative purposes only. I’ll use { and } instead of and ] so that you can see where the brackets should be located, and I’ll insert my comments in red text.

{quote}Mary had a little lamb whose fleece was black as soot,{/quote} I’m inserting my comments here in red. {quote}and everywhere that Mary went, his sooty foot he put.{/quote}Hope this helps.

Now, wherever you see the { or } you have to actually use a square bracket or ]. So the paragraph above comes out like this:

Mary had a little lamb whose fleece was black as soot,

I’m inserting my comments here in red.

and everywhere that Mary went his sooty foot he put.

Hope this helps.

One more thing: the quote function will automatically insert the name of the person to whom you are replying so that person can find your response more easily.

 

[tweetymom]

But then she also wouldn’t be getting all the Protestants querulously telling us to “leave the poor, sweet little old lady alone” either.

Clearly, there is some positive repercussions to her in proclaiming to be a Catholic here while espousing Episcopalian or Methodist or Church of God beliefs.

Iam sweet ,but not a poor little old lady,

 

[PRmerger]

Great! So if the leadership was not lead by the Spirit then how can you trust their resistance to the reforms that so many people tried to bring?

Their resistance to some reforms was incorrect. They ought to have listened to some of the reformers.

However, that doesn’t change the fact that they were (and are!) inerrant when teaching about faith and morals.

Not to mention that we (and you!) ought to obey your leaders, whether they’re infallible or not!

For God commands that you do so, MRL.

 

[tweetymom]

Actually the opposite is true. We don’t expect those who admit they are Protestant to accept the Apostolic Teachings.

No, it is in jeapardy for rejecting the teachings of the Church. There would be less jeapardy if she did not claim to be Catholic, but since she does,…

It is an effective way to cause scandal to the Catholic faith, for sure. However, her beliefs are Baptist.

Everyone is welcome in the Catholic Church. There is no requirement that they become Catholic. If someone claims to be catholic, they are expected to embrace and represent the doctrines of the Church.

Thank you I am Catholic but really liked being Pentecostal

 

[Teneas]

Thank you I am Catholic but really liked being Pentecostal

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