Edwin,
Absolutely not. I’m a lot more sympathetic to people leaving ECUSA (particularly if they leave it in a more Catholic direction) than to people leaving other churches. I groan every time I hear of another evangelical becoming Episcopalian. This has nothing to do with sticking up for ECUSA. I really mean what I am saying.
It’s an invitation. One that I wished someone had extended to me a bit earlier in my life.
I tend to think the above is true when non-Catholic missionaries try to separate Catholics from their religious faith if Catholicism is the fold that Jesus speaks of when he says: “I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and mine know me…And I have other sheep, that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will heed my voice. So there shall be one flock, one shepherd.”
Can’t you see that there is incredible hypocrisy on this Board about “sheep steeling”.
It just depends on whose sheep…er…ox…is being gored.
As far as I can tell, this site is not forced on anyone. All come here voluntarily. So who are the sheep here?
It was a joke.
Well next time use a smiley at the end of your statement. This is required for all jokes. Did you not read all of the posting rules for this forum???
Point well taken, although using simileys all the time does take away from the ability to use dry humor a bit.Well next time use a smiley at the end of your statement. This is required for all jokes. Did you not read all of the posting rules for this forum???
The big difference is that evangelicals consider Catholics to be non-Christian cultists and damned to hell, whereas Catholics consider evangelicals to be sincere fellow Christians who just do not have all of the gospel. We don’t go out and knock on doors telling lies about evangelicals, but I often get local evangelicals knocking on my door telling terrible lies about the Catholic faith. We just provide answers for those who are interested in coming home to the Church established by Jesus, with all its authority, priesthood and sacraments.
I guess Catholics need to make sure there is no need for a Protestant medical mission in the Dominican Republic or any other predominantly Catholic country.I tend to think the above is true when non-Catholic missionaries try to separate Catholics from their religious faith if Catholicism is the fold that Jesus speaks of when he says: “I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and mine know me…And I have other sheep, that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will heed my voice. So there shall be one flock, one shepherd.”
I know of a local Presbyterian church that sends a medical mission to the Dominican Republic every year. Upon returning from their last trip, a report was given not only of the medical care given but also how many souls were saved by coming to know Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior. I would consider that to be an admirable effort on their part only as long as the native peoples had no exposure to Christianity at all. But my research shows that 95% of the Dominican Republic’s population is Catholic. This irks the heck out of me.
This sounds so innocuous but is in fact demonstrably false, as evidenced by many posts on Catholic Answers.
Well said. Anyone, Catholic or Protestant, who believes that misconceptions are a one way street is fooling himself.
Really? I’ve never heard anyone say that any particular person will burn in hell. The Catechism of the Catholic Church specifically states the Catholic Church has no idea who will be in hell and it even prays that all souls will come into the presence of God. We can believe the Catholic Church is the One True Faith without at the same time making a judgment on who or who is not in hell. The Catholic catechism in fact states that it expects many non-Catholics have the possibility of attaining heaven. Go read the Catechism and find out what it says before claiming that the Catholic Church believes thus and so.
“There MAY be Christians within the Roman Church”,… and there you have it folks. That pretty much sums it up. My personal, and there are many, experience with evangelicals is this. Almost all, and we have many large ‘congregations’ in our area and growing, are strongly anti-Catholic, they do not think the Roman Church is a Christan Church and spend endless hours discussing just that with their members. In fact, it is a MAJOR part of their platform, used exclusively in our very heavily Catholic region to bring Catholics in. They study Catholic teaching and choose subjects to, I’ll use the word ‘attack’ a weak Catholics beliefs. Things may be different in your area, but that’s the way it is here. But I suspect not. Everything you said about Evangelisms growing is true. Everything you said about the RCC loosing ground is true. But what you said about their ‘attitude towards Catholics’ is not. It is evident on their websites, official websites, not a post, it’s evident on their broadcasts. You said Evangelicals “provide answers’…which are? You said in 'defense of the faith”…which one? You speak of Evangelical as if it’s one coordinated answer to the Roman Church, shoulder to shoulder in defense of ‘the faith’. ‘My’ experience is that Evangelicals each have their own version of ‘the faith’. But it’s seems as long as it’s ‘anything but Catholic’, then that works. The Pentecostal Movement and Evangelical Movement is growing, because it relates better to the individual, it provides more engagement, more feeling, more emotion, but more truth, hardly. The Church’s approach is old and stogy, unless you count the part about following Christs commands like “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.” People are so desperate for an “experience” with God, and hence the Evangelical phenomenon. Look at the mega-church’s, big screens, lights, music, nice seating. It’s an experience, and that’s fine. But you say ‘defense of the truth of the faith’ but I say, what ‘truth’. And from whom do you defend it? Your statement above answers that question. The reason so many people leave the Catholic Church is because they ‘feel’ they can’t get an experience from the Church, it’s boring, not because of some divine ‘truth’ you seem to think lives on in the Evangelical movement. If you really start to study the history and Scripture and Tradition IN IT"S ENTIRETY, you will conclude the Roman Church is the true Church. Don’t kid yourself, people leave the Church looking for ‘a feeling’, the fellowship, the fun, the experience of God, and consequently forget God was always with them, in the Tabernacle, in the Word, in the Eucharist, in the faith of the Saints. Catholic arrogance, that’s funny. Read your posts, your bristling with pride.
No, but you do post lies about evangelicals on the forum, such as the first statement in your post quoted above. Evangelicals as a whole do not think that Catholics as a whole are damned to hell. (BTW, I don’t think you were deliberately lying. But neither are the evangelicals who say false things about Catholicism deliberately lying, on the whole.)
Please support this statement with citations of specific posts and/or posters. I do not recall ever seeing a single post on this board that claimed that Charles Wesley was in hell or that Billy Graham was on his way there. If you have read such posts, then tell me where to find them (and bear in mind that you said many, so you need to find more than just one or two, though I’m not sure you can even find that). If you haven’t, then you are lying and you need to apologize humbly to the Catholics on this board whom you have slandered.