Why do other religions sound so ridiculous?

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Fair warning: This post is trolling. I am looking for people that enjoy a debate about this subject. I do not mean to offend innocents, merely to see what support others come up with.

There was an article about scientists trying to find why Spring was coming earlier recently in certain areas.
I joked with a friend that these silly scientists should have listened to what religion has known for thousands of years. The seasons are really caused by the goddess Demeter, whose daughter Persephone was taken to the underworld, and because she ate a single pomegranite seed, she’s required to go there for 6 months of the year. This depresses Demeter so much that she lets the world die while Persephone’s away.

The other person, actually joked “Doesn’t it seem ridiculous to make the entire world suffer for one woman’s fruit-related indiscretion?” There was then a momentary pause while we both realized the correlation between that story and the Garden of Eden.

So my questions are:
Do you find the stories of other religions to sound ridiculous?
Do you find Biblical stories plausible?
Would Biblical stories still be plausible if they weren’t in the Bible?
 
Fair warning: This post is trolling. I am looking for people that enjoy a debate about this subject. I do not mean to offend innocents, merely to see what support others come up with.

There was an article about scientists trying to find why Spring was coming earlier recently in certain areas.
I joked with a friend that these silly scientists should have listened to what religion has known for thousands of years. The seasons are really caused by the goddess Demeter, whose daughter Persephone was taken to the underworld, and because she ate a single pomegranite seed, she’s required to go there for 6 months of the year. This depresses Demeter so much that she lets the world die while Persephone’s away.

The other person, actually joked “Doesn’t it seem ridiculous to make the entire world suffer for one woman’s fruit-related indiscretion?” There was then a momentary pause while we both realized the correlation between that story and the Garden of Eden.

So my questions are:
Do you find the stories of other religions to sound ridiculous?
Do you find Biblical stories plausible?
Would Biblical stories still be plausible if they weren’t in the Bible?
That sure sounds like a good condemnation of Protestantism.
 
It’s a peculiarly Protestant idea that the consequences of original sin are some kind of “punishment” from God, or else that original sin resulted in a deformation of human nature.

In fact the fall caused by original sin was not a deformation of human nature but a fall from an elevated state of grace granted us freely by God – back to our natural state.

In other words, “original sin” did not entail the loss of something we possessed naturally, but the withdrawing of something God gave us for free (but with conditions attached) and to which were not entitled – the gift of supernatural grace.

So original sin does not entail a punishment at all. I’ve heard it compared once to a man who allows tenants to live rent-free on his land and who even promises to plant them an orchard, if they can prove they can tend it. The tenants fail and the orchard dies, so the landlord rips it up. It’s not a “punishment” because they never really owned the orchard in the first place.
 
Some of the stories in the Bible are allegory, so there’s that. As for some of the stories like people being raised from the dead and miracles, well, assuming that God doesn’t exist, these miracles are as logically possible as Greek mythology. However, we operate with the knowledge that He does, that means that we find it believable since, if God laid the Earth’s foundation, he can make some tweaks here and there.
 
“So my questions are:
Do you find the stories of other religions to sound ridiculous?
Do you find Biblical stories plausible?
Would Biblical stories still be plausible if they weren’t in the Bible?”

No, I don’t think religious stories ridiculous. Those stories, far from being actual history, are allegories. Each people have the story as they perceive it and that is why there are so many points in common in all religions. Noah and the flood appear in dozens of cultures. The hero that is murdered and later rises in glory, too. Even in masonic traditions. – The Sol Invictus. So, it is a common story for all the world and every people give their perceptions. That is precisely what makes them believable, that they are not the patrimony of a single religion but of all humanity and their meaning transcends the mere religious aspect.
 
So my questions are:
Do you find the stories of other religions to sound ridiculous?
Do you find Biblical stories plausible?
Would Biblical stories still be plausible if they weren’t in the Bible?
Do you find the stories of other religions to sound ridiculous?

Nope… I see them as different cultural descriptions of what happened, in a context understandable by the floks listening.

Do you find Biblical stories plausible?

Absolutely… Some figuratively (Universe created in 7 days) Most literally (Jesus fed the multitudes, rose from the dead, etc… Moses parted the sea)

Would Biblical stories still be plausible if they weren’t in the Bible?

This one is a paradox that can not be answered… If it is not in the Bible than it is no longer a Biblical story… So I’ll attack from a different angle… Are stories from the Bible more plausible then stories told by my friend down the street… Yep. The Bible has a recorded, verifiable record of being accurate… My friend most likely did not actually catch that 40 pound trout he told me about last week.
 
Fair warning: This post is trolling. I am looking for people that enjoy a debate about this subject. I do not mean to offend innocents, merely to see what support others come up with.

There was an article about scientists trying to find why Spring was coming earlier recently in certain areas.
I joked with a friend that these silly scientists should have listened to what religion has known for thousands of years. The seasons are really caused by the goddess Demeter, whose daughter Persephone was taken to the underworld, and because she ate a single pomegranite seed, she’s required to go there for 6 months of the year. This depresses Demeter so much that she lets the world die while Persephone’s away.

The other person, actually joked “Doesn’t it seem ridiculous to make the entire world suffer for one woman’s fruit-related indiscretion?” There was then a momentary pause while we both realized the correlation between that story and the Garden of Eden.

So my questions are:
Do you find the stories of other religions to sound ridiculous?
Do you find Biblical stories plausible?
Would Biblical stories still be plausible if they weren’t in the Bible?
No.
Yes., some.
I do not deal with “ifs”.
 
It is a matter of cultural background. Understanding stories demands an understanding of the genre- to Westerners, many Buddhist and Hindu stories sound absurd, because of the enormous numbers of vast expanses of time involved. A lot of the stories of the saints also sound absurd to modern hearers.

To appreciate stories and myths (whether Christian or non-Christian), one must enter into the genre, the relationship between history and story, allegory and non-allegory, etc.
 
Fair warning: This post is trolling. I am looking for people that enjoy a debate about this subject. I do not mean to offend innocents, merely to see what support others come up with.

There was an article about scientists trying to find why Spring was coming earlier recently in certain areas.
I joked with a friend that these silly scientists should have listened to what religion has known for thousands of years. The seasons are really caused by the goddess Demeter, whose daughter Persephone was taken to the underworld, and because she ate a single pomegranite seed, she’s required to go there for 6 months of the year. This depresses Demeter so much that she lets the world die while Persephone’s away.

The other person, actually joked “Doesn’t it seem ridiculous to make the entire world suffer for one woman’s fruit-related indiscretion?” There was then a momentary pause while we both realized the correlation between that story and the Garden of Eden.

So my questions are:
Do you find the stories of other religions to sound ridiculous?
Do you find Biblical stories plausible?
Would Biblical stories still be plausible if they weren’t in the Bible?
Generally speaking, people believe the religion that they were imprinted with by family, church/school, and friends while they were young, and before they had learned anything whatsoever about critical thinking. That religion becomes a functional paradigm which resides in the brain, acting as a filter through which all other ideas must pass.

It remains an effective filter unless the soul acquires a level of consciousness such that it can learn critical thinking. This happens in only about 3% of individuals, and often results in the rejection of all beliefs.

Beliefs are also commonly rejected if they must compete with considerable disagreement. Most perfessers become atheists because in a modern university environment, they would be out of lockstep with other perfessers if they believed in a Creator.

Seen through the filter of whatever belief system one’s brain is programmed with, all other beliefs, theories, or opinions appear wrong.

For example, although I gave up my Catholic beliefs about half a century ago, when exposed to the beliefs of most other religions, the Baltimore Catechism has the edge. Had I been raised a Mormon, no doubt I would find the angel Moroni a credible source of truth, instead of the invented entity I currently regard him as.

However, I do not give my childhood catechism a great edge over other teachings. Currently coming from the universal rejection of all religions, including Darwinism, I tend to measure the value of a set of religious beliefs by how much tweaking would be required to make better sense of them in the context of what we know about physics and microbiology.

On a scale where 10 represents a set of beliefs which is totally compatible with every known bit of data, my ratings are thus:

10 - Beon Theory.

9 - The original teachings of Jesus Christ as expressed in the testaments of Matthew and Mark.

8 - Classical Buddhism (emphasis on the classical, rarely practiced form).

7 - The modern Catholic Church. . Judaism.

6 - All modern Christian churches about which I know a little.

5 - The Bahai (sp) faith.

4 - Zoroastrianism, Islam, derivative sects.

2 - Hinduism

1 - Greco/Roman paganism, devil worship, etc.

0 - Atheism

Plausibility is a separate issue, and is always dependent upon the particular story. Garden of Eden: implausible. The history of Moses, highly plausible. The best measure of plausibility is whether or not Hollywood can torque a story into a money making move.

For example, have we not all watched Charlton Heston bring the Jews out of Egypt? Samson and Delilah, the beheading of John the Baptist, have been turned into profitable (popular) movies. There are plenty of successful stories about Jesus’ life, all focusing upon His death. Many successful stories deal with the early phases of Christianity.

However, the only movies I’ve seen about the Garden of Eden myth are either bad movies or B-rated comedies.

More important than the Historical Record (c.f. Galaxy Quest) is the plausibility of a religion’s metaphysics. I.e: How effective is its explanation for the beginnings of things? (Darwinism dies falling on that particular sword.) Religions which hypothesize a Creator, or Creators imply that intelligence was behind creation. This in turn implies that the creator(s) must have good reasons for creation. However, I have yet to find any religion that has invented a reason for creation that would make a credible soap opera plot.
 
I find Hindu mythology just implausible, with a god who has an elephant’s head and a monkey man god. When I was an atheist I found the garden of Eden and resurrection impossible, but after asking God to lead me to Him I now accept the latter. Almost all cultures seem to have garden of Eden and flood myths. They have stories that match with the bible until the tower of Babel incident.
 
So my questions are:
Do you find the stories of other religions to sound ridiculous?
Do you find Biblical stories plausible?
Would Biblical stories still be plausible if they weren’t in the Bible?
Trolling aside - and I dare say I’m laying myself open to that very charge - frankly, most religious stories and teachings sound ridiculous from the outside - especially to those who were not raised to believe they are true.

As for finding Biblical stories plausible, it depends upon the context in which you consider the term ‘plausible’ - I find them perfectly plausible as mythology and legend, much as I consider similar stories from ancient Greek, Roman, Chinese, Indian, Mayan, Celtic etc religions to be perfectly plausible as stories people told each other to explain why the world is the way it appears to be.

Would Biblical stories be taken so seriously now were it not for the historical dominance of Christianity in the Western world? I have my doubts, but of course it would require access to a different possible world to bear this out :hey_bud:
 
Trolling aside - and I dare say I’m laying myself open to that very charge - frankly, most religious stories and teachings sound ridiculous from the outside - especially to those who were not raised to believe they are true.

As for finding Biblical stories plausible, it depends upon the context in which you consider the term ‘plausible’ - I find them perfectly plausible as mythology and legend, much as I consider similar stories from ancient Greek, Roman, Chinese, Indian, Mayan, Celtic etc religions to be perfectly plausible as stories people told each other to explain why the world is the way it appears to be.

Would Biblical stories be taken so seriously now were it not for the historical dominance of Christianity in the Western world? I have my doubts, but of course it would require access to a different possible world to bear this out :hey_bud:
I think they all look silly when you try to be just literal.
However, when you view them as teaching tools, and that they may use metaphore, they prove their purpose.
 
So my questions are:
Do you find the stories of other religions to sound ridiculous?
I think it’s worth exploring what leads up to a person finding anything ridiculous in general. I’m sure you will come across conclusions that are applicable to your question in it’s original context.
 
I actually found many Hindu stories quite moving and always containing some profound teaching and deep truths. But the Greek, Roman and Egyptian myths? I think I’d have to be nuts to think they were true. With the Greek especially, I can never even tell what deeper truth I’m supposed to get from any of it! They seem like a special kind of ancient soap opera that the Greeks told each other to pass time and entertain themselves, not even like it was meant as religion at all. I cannot compare them to the Hindu stories at all! The OT reads too much like History for me to put it in that category. The best I could do when agnostic is to imagine they were facts that got hyped up over time before they were put into writing.
 
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