Why do people judge others so harshly?

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I have seen people decide they hate somone just because they believe something the other does not. It is shocking sometimes and hard to read.
 
Some Catholics (and many other Christians, its not limited to Catholics) unfortunately believe that it is their mission to tell other people how to live their lives or how badly they’re broken or how much they’ve sinned. They claim “Oh but we have a moral duty to remind others of their sins and transgressions.”

While this goes on there’s some dirty little sin or secret these people have themselves that everyone overlooks. Because they do everything right or go through the motions. As if this gives them a right to call other people out for their sins. When this person has their own little perverted sin of their own that hasn’t been taken care of. Pretty hypocrtical. And everyone is guilty of it. Why I am guilty of it myself. Because we are all sinners.

Jesus said in Matthew 7:1-5:
  • “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye."*
So clearly if you see someone who has fallen on sin; don’t take the hypocritical route and proclaim to the world that they are a sinner to prove how righteous and upright you are. Because chances are that your personal sins are much worse than your brothers as Jesus spoke of.

Take things easy and slow. See to it that your qualified to speak on matters and examine your own sin first to make sure you are not being a self-righteous hypocrite.

And when you do go to speak to your brother. Do it gently with love. Berating them, singling them out, and making them feel worse about themselves is not too Christlike.

I know some here will disagree with me; but I’ve been around the block to see this. And I am guilty of this just as much as everyone else is.
 
mitex said:
Some Catholics (and many other Christians, its not limited to Catholics) unfortunately believe that it is their mission to tell other people how to live their lives or how badly they’re broken or how much they’ve sinned. They claim “Oh but we have a moral duty to remind others of their sins and transgressions.”

While this goes on there’s some dirty little sin or secret these people have themselves that everyone overlooks. Because they do everything right or go through the motions. As if this gives them a right to call other people out for their sins. When this person has their own little perverted sin of their own that hasn’t been taken care of. Pretty hypocrtical. And everyone is guilty of it. Why I am guilty of it myself. Because we are all sinners.

Jesus said in Matthew 7:1-5:
  • “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye."*
So clearly if you see someone who has fallen on sin; don’t take the hypocritical route and proclaim to the world that they are a sinner to prove how righteous and upright you are. Because chances are that your personal sins are much worse than your brothers as Jesus spoke of.

Take things easy and slow. See to it that your qualified to speak on matters and examine your own sin first to make sure you are not being a self-righteous hypocrite.

And when you do go to speak to your brother. Do it gently with love. Berating them, singling them out, and making them feel worse about themselves is not too Christlike.

I know some here will disagree with me; but I’ve been around the block to see this. And I am guilty of this just as much as everyone else is.
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thank you for that and for doing it in a nice way to.
 
SilverLight said:
I have seen people decide they hate somone just because they believe something the other does not. It is shocking sometimes and hard to read.
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Can you provide a more specific example? Judgment is not judgment if it is delivered in a mannager that is consistent with the teaching of the Lord. We are all sinners and we are all called to spread the Word of the Lord. Their is no hypocracy in this notion.

Unfortunately, many, too many, are not skilled in their delivery and often come off as being harsh, crude, and judgmental. We all can learn, but we can’t be silent and crawl into a hole.

Let the Holy Spirit guide the messanger, and the Holy Spirit will deliver the message!
 
Ammo said:
Can you provide a more specific example? Judgment is not judgment if it is delivered in a mannager that is consistent with the teaching of the Lord. We are all sinners and we are all called to spread the Word of the Lord. Their is no hypocracy in this notion.

Unfortunately, many, too many, are not skilled in their delivery and often come off as being harsh, crude, and judgmental. We all can learn, but we can’t be silent and crawl into a hole.

Let the Holy Spirit guide the messanger, and the Holy Spirit will deliver the message!
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I like part of your answer. But there can be hypocrisy because we are all humans and sinners as you say.

Please refer to my guidelines! 👍
 
God bless you for your own charitable spirit. God grant you are always able to inspire others to be more charitable in their perceptions and responses.
 
SilverLight said:
I have seen people decide they hate somone just because they believe something the other does not. It is shocking sometimes and hard to read.
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Really? Because I have never, I think, seen anything like this, at least not on CAF. When I see it in real life it is inevitably leftist atheists declaring their hatred for Christians, especially Catholics.

Maybe you can clarify.
 
sw85 said:
Really? Because I have never, I think, seen anything like this, at least not on CAF. When I see it in real life it is inevitably leftist atheists declaring their hatred for Christians, especially Catholics.

Maybe you can clarify.
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Really that’s funny because I see it happen all the time here on CAF. I’m guilty of it myself as are you and every other user! :eek:
 
SilverLight said:
I have seen people decide they hate somone just because they believe something the other does not. It is shocking sometimes and hard to read.
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I’d love to see an actual website where someone literally says “I hate you because you believe something I don’t”. In many, many years I have never seen that in real life, except in the case of liberals hating people who disagree with them. But so far, never the other way around. Not once.
 
mitex said:
Really that’s funny because I see it happen all the time here on CAF. I’m guilty of it myself as are you and every other user! :eek:
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I will be harsh with other people when they espouse foolishness or try to seduce people to heresy, apostasy, or sin. I have very little patience for such things. Hardly the same thing as hatred or hypocritical judgment, though.
 
sw85 said:
I will be harsh with other people when they espouse foolishness or try to seduce people to heresy, apostasy, or sin. I have very little patience for such things. Hardly the same thing as hatred or hypocritical judgment, though.
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Harshness is always uncalled for. Jesus says a ton of stuff about love. You should always respond with love no matter what.

Being brutal, harsh, and mean spirited has no place in Christianity. Although I admit it must be hard for you to realize that because you’ve got the better part of 2.000 years of history where Christians screwed a lot of stuff up. So don’t worry I don’t blame you for being harsh.

Be loving and gentle! Nice guys win always 🙂
 
mitex said:
Harshness is always uncalled for. Jesus says a ton of stuff about love. You should always respond with love no matter what.
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Harshness is frequently called for and Christ Himself was often harsh with people when their behavior warranted it. Remember “get behind me, Satan”? “My house shall be called the house of prayer, but ye have made it a den of thieves”? etc.

“Love” in the Biblical sense (agape/caritas) is not mere kindness. It is willing what is good for another, simply for that other’s sake. Sometimes that requires harshness. When a child reaches the electrical socket with a fork in his hand, you smack his hand and maybe swat his bottom, too, to drive the point home. In a high school a fellow student insulted my mother, so I socked him in the mouth.
Being brutal, harsh, and mean spirited has no place in Christianity. Although I admit it must be hard for you to realize that because you’ve got the better part of 2.000 years of history where Christians screwed a lot of stuff up. So don’t worry I don’t blame you for being harsh.
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Be loving and gentle! Nice guys win always 🙂
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Nice guys often don’t win. Sometimes they do, but it’s far from true that they “always” win. Because niceness is not the only thing in the world. It’s not even the most important thing in the world. Holiness is.

What does in fact have no place is harshness or crudity for its own sake or for pride’s sake. It should always be aimed, ultimately, at the correction of errors, leading to repentance and conversion.

I reject the monstrous pride and impiety typical of Protestants that drives you to think the first millennium and a half or so of Christian saints got everything wrong until Martin Luther (who just happened to be totally in thrall to the philosophical fashions of the day) came along and set us straight.
 
sw85 said:
Harshness is frequently called for and Christ Himself was often harsh with people when their behavior warranted it. Remember “get behind me, Satan”? “My house shall be called the house of prayer, but ye have made it a den of thieves”? etc.

“Love” in the Biblical sense (agape/caritas) is not mere kindness. It is willing what is good for another, simply for that other’s sake. Sometimes that requires harshness. When a child reaches the electrical socket with a fork in his hand, you smack his hand and maybe swat his bottom, too, to drive the point home. In a high school a fellow student insulted my mother, so I socked him in the mouth.

Nice guys often don’t win. Sometimes they do, but it’s far from true that they “always” win. Because niceness is not the only thing in the world. It’s not even the most important thing in the world. Holiness is.

What does in fact have no place is harshness or crudity for its own sake or for pride’s sake. It should always be aimed, ultimately, at the correction of errors, leading to repentance and conversion.

I reject the monstrous pride and impiety typical of Protestants that drives you to think the first millennium and a half or so of Christian saints got everything wrong until Martin Luther (who just happened to be totally in thrall to the philosophical fashions of the day) came along and set us straight.
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What the heck is wrong with you?! Questioning my faith?!

I have never questioned your dedication to the Church as an RCIA candidate! How dare you! :mad:

Socking someone in the mouth?! :mad:

That’s barbaric! Physical violence is barbaric! What the heck is wrong with you?! I’ve never said anything bad about your Church! :mad:

Hitting anyone especially a child is barbaric! What’s wrong with you?!

Geesh I’m putting you on ignore!
 
mitex said:
What the heck is wrong with you?! Questioning my faith?!
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I don’t even know what you’re talking about here. I didn’t question your faith. I am questioning your exegesis (namely your false and historically aberrant understanding of what “love” is in a Biblical sense) and deriding as insolent and impious your derogation of centuries of Christian saints as “barbarians.” Your faith has nothing to do with it.

The funny thing is, by this post you basically tacitly admit as false your earlier assertion that harshness is always and everywhere an unequivocal evil. Did you know it was false when you made that assertion? If so, would it be fair to conclude you were lying then? Or did you genuinely believe it was true but only now realize that it’s false, when confronted with something you think objectionable (even though you never say why and probably couldn’t if I pressed you – which I won’t, for that very reason)? If so, why should anyone here believe anything else you say is true, since its apparently subject to arbitrary revision at a moment’s notice?
 
sw85 said:
I don’t even know what you’re talking about here. I didn’t question your faith. I am questioning your exegesis (namely your false and historically aberrant understanding of what “love” is in a Biblical sense) and deriding as insolent and impious your derogation of centuries of Christian saints as “barbarians.” Your faith has nothing to do with it.

The funny thing is, by this post you basically tacitly admit as false your earlier assertion that harshness is always and everywhere an unequivocal evil. Did you know it was false when you made that assertion? If so, would it be fair to conclude you were lying then? Or did you genuinely believe it was true but only now realize that it’s false, when confronted with something you think objectionable (even though you never say why and probably couldn’t if I pressed you – which I won’t, for that very reason)? If so, why should anyone here believe anything else you say is true, since its apparently subject to arbitrary revision at a moment’s notice?
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The saints don’t matter to me! I’m an Evangelical! My faith in Jesus and his message of universal love is all I need. Doctrine, tradition, saints, liturgy, communion, history its all irrelevant to me!

Now of course to Catholics and Orthodox Christians such as yourself its the opposite. All of that is important.

Martin Luther is irrelevant. The whole protestant reformation is irrelevant to me SW.

All I need is Jesus.

And I do apologize for lashing out at you. It was uncalled for.
 
mitex said:
The saints don’t matter to me! I’m an Evangelical! My faith in Jesus and his message of universal love is all I need. Doctrine, tradition, saints, liturgy, communion, history its all irrelevant to me!

Now of course to Catholics and Orthodox Christians such as yourself its the opposite. All of that is important.

Martin Luther is irrelevant. The whole protestant reformation is irrelevant to me SW.

All I need is Jesus.

And I do apologize for lashing out at you. It was uncalled for.
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So nothing matters to you but yourself and Jesus? Not history?

Nothing?
 
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