Why do people leave the Faith. What are we doing wrong?

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EasterJoy said:
It is supposed to knock you off of a false pedestal that only alienates you from God, others and yourself because you cannot even get closer to yourself by lying to yourself all the time. True humility does not make you falsely believe that God prizes your society any less than anyone else. Loving truly does not take away our need to be loved by others in return.
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You say this and yet you’re unaware of how Christianity itself can be an easy basis for self-deception. (Persecution complex, repression, refusal to face certain realities.)

With all due respect, whenever I see one view calling the other delusional, there’s a 90% chance I see a pot calling a kettle black.
 
Lost_Wanderer said:
You say this and yet you’re unaware of how Christianity itself can be an easy basis for self-deception. (Persecution complex, repression, refusal to face certain realities.)

With all due respect, whenever I see one view calling the other delusional, there’s a 90% chance I see a pot calling a kettle black.
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The whole point of C.S. Lewis’ book is how even Christianity can be used for self-deception.

That is neither here nor there, though, do you think? I don’t think you are ready to be persuaded. You don’t want to be persuaded. Whether you are or are not likely to ever change your mind is not even something we ought to be here batting back and forth. You have done your part, and answered many, many, MANY questions both frankly and patiently! 👍

I think the best way to show I respect you is to say I’m satisfied that you are determined to take the path you have chosen, and leave you to it with no ill will. We hope you come to the Catholic faith some day, not back to where you were but to a life-giving way at it (which some of us know can be done), but at some point we have to give you the respect of allowing you to choose your own path without arguing you to death about it.

Some of us will choose to leave the faith, no matter what any of us who don’t leave do, that is that, and there gets to be a point to just let the person go their way in peace and come back, if they choose to do so, of their own accord. To do anything else only asks for unnecessary strife.
 
We welcomed in to our parish our new parish pastor. We had a nice meal and entertainment for everyone. Towards the end our parish pastor begins singing all sorts of top 40 songs. It bothered me a bit. Can our priests be too worldly I thought to myself. I don’t know but these things bother me a bit.
 
@WilT, nothing wrong with that, unless he’s getting up on the table and slapping his butt while he’s dancing, or belting our morally objectionable lyrics. IMO you WANT a guy that is tuned in to “worldly” things. Lax Catholics need someone to help them to see how they can be practicing, dedicated Catholics and still live their “real” lives, to the extent that’s possible. It helps when someone understands the environment you’re living in.

My parish has a lifelong priest (pastor), a former Border Patrol guard, and a Spanish guy. Each one of them offers something different, but i particularly love the BP guard because he’s been where we are (figuratively) and chose differently.
 
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@WilT, nothing wrong with that, unless he’s getting up on the table and slapping his butt while he’s dancing, or belting our morally objectionable lyrics. IMO you WANT a guy that is tuned in to “worldly” things. Lax Catholics need someone to help them to see how they can be practicing, dedicated Catholics and still live their “real” lives, to the extent that’s possible. It helps when someone understands the environment you’re living in.

My parish has a lifelong priest (pastor), a former Border Patrol guard, and a Spanish guy. Each one of them offers something different, but i particularly love the BP guard because he’s been where we are (figuratively) and chose differently.
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No butt slapping thank goodness. It could just be me. I guess I would like to see more holy type priest a little more often. Like Benedict Groechel may he rest in peace.
 
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