Why do pro-choice politicans feel comfortable in the catholic church?

[Daniel_Marsh]

Why do pro-choice politicans feel comfortable in the catholic church?

Pro-life politicans advoid pro-choice protestant churches and pro-choice politicans advoid pro-life protestant churches. But, pro-choice politicans feel comfortable in Catholic Churches.

Why is that?

 

[1ke]

Pro-life politicans advoid pro-choice protestant churches and pro-choice politicans advoid pro-life protestant churches.

This is an unsubstantiated, and I believe it is a false premise.

Please show some data substantiating this statement. You will find politicians of various Christian denominations and Judaism who are pro-life and pro-abortion.

Jimmy Carter affiliated with the Southern Baptists and supported abortion rights for decades-- he now considers himself an “evangelical”. Bill Clinton’s denominational affiliation is also Baptist. Last time I checked, Baptists were pro-life.

Bush Sr., who is pro-life, is an Episcopalian… the EC is pro-abortion

G. W. Bush, also pro-life, is Methodist… and the pro-abortion Senator John Edwards is also Methodist… Methodism accepts abortion

Joe Lieberman is pro-abortion and is an Orthodox Jew. Orthodox Judaism rejects abortion.

I could go on indefinitely, but in summary your premise is just plain wrong.

 

[ricmat]

Why do pro-choice politicans feel comfortable in the catholic church?

Perhaps because they can get away with it. No negative consequences (i.e. public excommunication).

 

[Pax]

Most people do not want to leave their church. This is true even when a person is living a life not approved by their church. Church leaders are sometimes weak in dealing with members of the flock because they are afraid of being judgmental or that they will drive people away and therefore have no chance of bringing them back to the truth.

Unfortunately, many Catholic bishops and priests have been weak in dealing with the issue of abortion as it relates to politicians in their diocese and parishes. This is a serious problem. It is important to remember, however, that anyone that procures an abortion, assists in the procurement, or participates in an abortion is automatically excommunicated. No formal excommunication is necessary.

Bishops should, IMHO, view all pro-choice politicians as automatically excommunicated and should refuse them communion unless they repent. This assumes, of course, that the pro-abortion views and votes of a politician are public knowledge and that the bishop and priests are aware of it. In cases of high profile politicians like Kennedy, Pelosi, etal, the bishops and priests should be well aware of the positions and advocacy of abortion on the part of these individuals.

There may be a pastoral element that comes into play that I am not aware of that would cause a bishop/priest to take a different view than I have presented, but I find it hard to justify allowing such politicians to receive communion.

This issue creates a scandal and stumbling block to people inside and outside of the Catholic Church. Unfortunately, pro-abortion views are highly tolerated and encouraged in our society at large and many Catholic and non-Catholic Christians have been ensared by them. We must all pray and work to change the hearts and minds of all those that do little or nothing to stop the carnage. We must start with ourselves and all the members of our Christian communities. This includes evangelizing our leadership where needed.

Daniel, please join us in prayer and sacrifice to reform those bishops and priests that seem out of touch with the situation.

 

[childofmary1143]

This is an unsubstantiated, and I believe it is a false premise.

Please show some data substantiating this statement. You will find politicians of various Christian denominations and Judaism who are pro-life and pro-abortion.

Jimmy Carter affiliated with the Southern Baptists and supported abortion rights for decades-- he now considers himself an “evangelical”. Bill Clinton’s denominational affiliation is also Baptist. Last time I checked, Baptists were pro-life.

Bush Sr., who is pro-life, is an Episcopalian… the EC is pro-abortion

G. W. Bush, also pro-life, is Methodist… and the pro-abortion Senator John Edwards is also Methodist… Methodism accepts abortion

Joe Lieberman is pro-abortion and is an Orthodox Jew. Orthodox Judaism rejects abortion.

I could go on indefinitely, but in summary your premise is just plain wrong.

Obviously Baptists aren’t pro life as Bill Clinton is a baptist (as you say he is) and he is pro choice.

 

[1ke]

Obviously Baptists aren’t pro life as Bill Clinton is a baptist (as you say he is) and he is pro choice.

The Southern Baptists are very pro-life.

Bill Clinton is an example of an erring Baptist. Just as John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, etc, are examples of erring Catholic.s

 

[Sixtus]

Why do pro-choice politicans feel comfortable in the catholic church?

Pro-life politicans advoid pro-choice protestant churches and pro-choice politicans advoid pro-life protestant churches. But, pro-choice politicans feel comfortable in Catholic Churches.

Why is that?

I am not awre of it, but maybe something to do with Mt 7:1-2