Why do protestant ministers where the collars of a priest?

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The clergy SHIRT was a Protestant invention - and it’s classified as a CLERICAL, not a VESTMENT. Before the clerical collar/shirt, Protestant clergy wore linen preaching tabs/bands held in place by a wrap-around cloth with either a cassock OR an academic gown. Clergy shirts were an invention to simplify all that clothing. Catholic priests did not adopt clergy shirts until much later, and re-made the neckband collar into a “tab” collar.

Before that, there really was no “street garb” for clergy - hence, no clergy shirts or clerical collars. The Fourth Lateran Council was when clergy were instructed to wear “distinctive” clothing - not for theological or ecclesiological reasons, but mainly so the public would take notice if they went into places where clergy shouldn’t go! In later years, Catholic clergy dress was divided into three categories: choir dress, pian dress, and daily dress. Pope Pius IX issued a “paper” (you really can’t call it a decree) in 1870 that pretty much dictated the way clergy dressed for choir, pian, and daily dress. Vatican II made very subtle changes. All this is for secular clergy by the way, not those in religious orders.

Before all this, clergy wore tunics or chasubles (similar to the Eucharistic vestment we now see) - and they were covered basically from neck to top of the feet… so even if you HAD been wearing a clerical collar, no one would have seen it. This article from New Advent is an interesting read.

The first mention of a Roman collar was the Third Plenary Council of Baltimore, 1884:
“We wish therefore and enjoin that all keep the law of the Church, and that when at home or when engaged in the sanctuary they should always wear the cassock [vestis talaris] which is proper to the clergy. When they go abroad for duty or relaxation, or when upon a journey, they may use a shorter dress, but still one that is black in colour, and which reaches to the knees, so as to distinguish it from lay costume. We enjoin upon our priests as a matter of strict precept, that both at home and abroad, and whether they are residing in their own diocese or outside of it, they should wear the Roman collar.”
Roman clergy were given some latitude on dress when bicycles became commonplace in Europe (ever try to ride a bike wearing a dress or robe?), and eventually lessened to what we are used to seeing priests wear today.

McLeod (a Scottish Anglican) invented the clerical collar, but not the Roman tab collar. And no one is sure if the tab collar was invented first, or if the collarrette that goes around a neckband collar to LOOK like a tab collar was (in the end, does it matter?). I’m just thankful that neckband collars are made out of plastic now instead of linen. I wonder how old Methodist and Episcopalian pastors wore starched linen around the neck AND kept them white, especially in the Southern U.S.!

Clothing styles change over time - even clerical wear. And if you’ve ever seen an ecclesiatical outfit’s catalog, you’ll see that clergy wear ain’t cheap… which probably goes against the original purpose of clerical wear: simple, distinctive, and humble.

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My personal opinion is - because all Truth comes from the Catholic Church, and to “appear” as if one teaches the Truth gives them an air of authority (which they do not possess), and leads followers somewhere they think they are going, but sadly never arrive.

In short - it is to deceive. Perhaps not knowingly or with direct intent, but in the end it is a deception. Just because one looks like a Catholic priest does not mean that the fullness of Truth comes in the box with the collar. I can see no other reason why anyone who is NOT Catholic would wish to appear as if they are unless they intend to deceive. If you do not agree with the fullness of Truth, why in the world would you ever want to look like you do?
I don’t think this is fair. A deception IS a deliberate attempt. I think our Fr. Mark here is quite sincere, and is not attempting to decieve anyone. Those that wear such attire often, as he has stated, have very pure motives for it.
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 History has nothing to do with this.  The fact remains that, here and now, in 2009, black clerics with a white collar are associated immediately with the Catholic priesthood (I am speaking from an American perspective), and this has been the case for ages and has not changed.  So why do non-Catholics want to look Catholic - unless they want to impart the *appearance* of Truth.
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Those that do so believe that they are imparrting the Truth. This is no less a public witness for them than it is for religious wearing habits. They are immediately recognized as Christians, and are judged accordingly.
 
Some people just have a caustic personality, I suppose.
I’m not going to argue. That’s not what I’m here for.

Peace be with you.
Thanks, Pastor Neal, for rising above. OTCA has a pattern of being caustic and argumentative when it is not necessary or productive.
 
I am truly trying to ask this question in a respectful manner, I intend no bashing or uncharitable remarks towards protestants.

I noticed that many, not all protestant ministers where collars and cossacks outside of their own churches which makes them look like a Catholic (Eastern and Latin Rite) priest. I saw a female minister who wore the black cossack and white collar, just like a priest. Why would protestant ministers want to resemble a Catholic priest when they often have serious differences in doctrine; especially with female ministers/bishops? Also with confession doctrine that is often associated with the collar (for Catholics)?
Well, priests and bishops also exist in the Anglican church and they arrive at the same reason reason for wearing the collar as Catholics do. It’s tradition. Not specifically Catholic tradition, but Early Chruch tradition. This goes the same for Orthodox priests.
 
I am truly trying to ask this question in a respectful manner, I intend no bashing or uncharitable remarks towards protestants.

I noticed that many, not all protestant ministers where collars and cossacks outside of their own churches which makes them look like a Catholic (Eastern and Latin Rite) priest. I saw a female minister who wore the black cossack and white collar, just like a priest. Why would protestant ministers want to resemble a Catholic priest when they often have serious differences in doctrine; especially with female ministers/bishops? Also with confession doctrine that is often associated with the collar (for Catholics)?
Short anwer…they wear the collars of a catholic priest because they believe they are catholic priests; just not Roman catholic priests. At least that is the view in the Anglican churches.
 
Thanks, Pastor Neal, for rising above. OTCA has a pattern of being caustic and argumentative when it is not necessary or productive.
That is often the result of an over-zealous but yet under-catechised convert.
 
Read his post again, OTCA. He went to great care to explain it all. You are contentious,and off topic.
Why? Because as Jesus said “I dare to speak the truth?” No one can answer this question with truth if it isn’t in them. I cannot accept his explanation if there is no truth to it.
 
Why? Because as Jesus said “I dare to speak the truth?” No one can answer this question with truth if it isn’t in them. I cannot accept his explanation if there is no truth to it.
I think you’re confusing your truth with the truth. And since other Catholics have pointed this out to you as well, I won’t worry about you thinking I am trying to beat you up.

I’m just not listening to much that you say anymore, OTCA - you have eroded your own witness. And blessings upon Rev O’Neal for being a gentleman, scholar, and Christian.

And my brother and sister Catholics: I know that OTCA doesn’t speak for you. Catholicism is honorable and faithful.

O+
 
I think you’re confusing your truth with the truth. And since other Catholics have pointed this out to you as well, I won’t worry about you thinking I am trying to beat you up.

I’m just not listening to much that you say anymore, OTCA - you have eroded your own witness. And blessings upon Rev O’Neal for being a gentleman, scholar, and Christian.

And my brother and sister Catholics: I know that OTCA doesn’t speak for you. Catholicism is honorable and faithful.

O+
Luke, apparently you are not a Catholic, therefore these actions are exactly as I thought so no surprise there… Catholics agree of course that we have the truth in the Catholic faith, so whats your gripe here? And since Christ founded the Catholic church, all Catholics agree with me. No? Catholicism IS honorable and faithful, but also the truth.👍
 
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