Why do Protestants say Catholicism leads to hell?

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Hi Jon,

I hadn’t even read your profile, but I was thinking of Lutherans and Anglicans which is the reason I said “some non-Catholics.” 🙂 I am a convert from the Presbyterian Church (in addition to other Christian and non-Christian background), but the Communion of Saints is one of the Catholic beliefs I didn’t have a problem with from a theogical point-of-view. I certainly would have never thought someone was going to hell because they prayed intercessory prayers.

Now, from a practical standpoint…it took a little longer to be comfortable praying the Rosary, Litany of Saints, etc.
Robert,
I knew what you meant. As for the Rosary, there’s just a little bit that I won’t pray. 😉 I think you are right, that those of us who believe in the communion of saints probably have less trouble understanding Catholic intercession. We know the saints pray for the church militant. Thanks God they do.
Jon
 
Go to any Protestant church in the land, and the odds are very good you will hear the minister ask the congregation to pray for someone who is sick, in difficulties, and so on.

The minister is praying to the congregation (that’s what pray means, to ask) to intercede for someone else.
I don’t have to because I attended many of them! That’s why I find it so odd that they believe in eternal life, but they think it is a sin to actually ask another member of the Body of Christ to pray for them. 🤷

I’m sure it is because they believe everyone who has died is still suffering in Purgatory. 😉 😛
 
They think we pray to Mary and the Saints INSTEAD of Jesus. They don’t understand that we trust in Jesus alone for our salvation. They don’t understand that we DO pray to Jesus! ALL day long!

They just don’t understand that our prayers to the Saints and Mary aren’t the same type of prayers we give to Jesus alone. When we pray to Mary and the Saints we’re just asking them to pray for us. We believe they can hear us because we believe God allows them to hear us. Infinite writings and oral testimonies testify to that.

I can say that since becoming Catholic, I pray a lot MORE to Jesus then I did before. Oh sure, every now and then I ask for a Saint’s intercession but I also pray directly to Jesus for the same problem.
 
The lack of understanding the ways how God can be honored scares people away from asking help from those Saints in Heaven who can only do the Will of God.
 
This is never more evident than during a funeral at a (Non-Catholic) Christian service. I feel empty after going to one, because so often they are careful NOT to pray for the soul of the deceased.

I was simply awestruck one day while listening to an MP3 file (CatholicBootCamp.Com) where the speaker suggested that, **when we pass a Non-Catholic cemetery, we should especially offer up extra prayers for the souls of these deceased **for none of their Christian brothers and sisters are praying for them.

What a wonderful example of uniting the Body of Christ!!!
Why? They are non-Catholic…so they are in hell right? 😃

(NOTE: THAT IS A JOKE - you are all required to laugh and not get mad at me) 😉

Is that www.catholicbiblebootcamp.com ? I tried CatholicBootCamp.com and got a domain registration site.
 
Hi
I am Catholic and I get annoyed when I see on other forums other Christians saying Catholicism leads to hell.
Why do they say this?
Because Pope Martin Luther told them to.
Please reassure me because sometimes I get worried about it,.
Read the Bible. Did Christ give the keys to Peter or to Martin Luther?

To Peter or to Jean Calvin?

To Peter or to Huydrich Zwingli?

To Peter or to Jeremiah Wright?

Christ founded his Church upon Peter, and promised to abide with her from Pentecost to the end of time.

There is only one denomination which can lay claim to being that Church, and you’re in it.
 
With all Respect, we non-protestant biblical christians see you depending on another gospel ( Gal 1:6-8 ) where you are putting your faith in Mary and in “sanits” in heaven for your prayers. We see you giving Mary or the saints creadit for what only God should get credit for like deliverance or healings. We honestly see you as having a misguided faith in anything but Jesus.

To counter this you need to learn to give only God credit.
Stop depending on Mary and the saints for your prayers.
And learn to word your testimoniies in language that we understand. Like quoting someone whom you believe is a Saint is the biggest turn off because in our view you are putting the words of that saint on par with Scriptures.

Like James says show me your works, and we know were your faith lies. We see your faith as centered on creatures ( Romans 1 ) rather than soley on Jesus the creator. This basically, comes from our concept of Jesus Alone, or Jesus Supreme.

You divorce the five Solas from each other and in doing so, you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of Salvation.

Basically, learn to look at people from their world view to see why many of us think you are unsaved. I for one try to make an effort to understand where you are coming from.
Sounds like somebody needs to review the Transfiguration and ask themselves:

Where did Moses and Elijah come from?
Why did Jesus speak to them?
Why did Peter offer to celebrate the feast of the tabernacles with them?

Square that circle, please.
 
We are expected to go to hell because we are seen as idolaters. Non-Catholic Churches have only two arrows in their prayer quiver, spoken prayers and hymns. The implication then is that spoken prayers and hymns are the only available forms of worship and using them equals worship.

Catholics on the other hand have many more arrows in that quiver. There can be prayers and hymns of adoration and worship praising , thanking, and petitioning God. We also have prayers appropriate to giving honor, veneration, petition and thanks to Saints e which do not equal worship. In addition we have the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass which is the epitomy of worship and praise to our God. The Sacrifice of the Mass makes use or can make use of every form of worship known to man, including joining ourselves to Jesus Christ in praise and honor of the Father.

Those who are not Catholic cannot understand that there are differences in the prayers and praise we give to Saints and the prayers and praise given in worshipping God. To most of them it is all a blob or blur with no differentiation. We know the differences because they are internal differences, states of mind, not obvious to the outside observer. We have a sumptous feast of prayer, while other faiths depend on minimal rations.
 
We are expected to go to hell because we are seen as idolaters. Non-Catholic Churches have only two arrows in their prayer quiver, spoken prayers and hymns. The implication then is that spoken prayers and hymns are the only available forms of worship and using them equals worship.

Catholics on the other hand have many more arrows in that quiver. There can be prayers and hymns of adoration and worship praising , thanking, and petitioning God. We also have prayers appropriate to giving honor, veneration, petition and thanks to Saints e which do not equal worship. In addition we have the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass which is the epitomy of worship and praise to our God. The Sacrifice of the Mass makes use or can make use of every form of worship known to man, including joining ourselves to Jesus Christ in praise and honor of the Father.

Those who are not Catholic cannot understand that there are differences in the prayers and praise we give to Saints and the prayers and praise given in worshipping God. To most of them it is all a blob or blur with no differentiation. We know the differences because they are internal differences, states of mind, not obvious to the outside observer. We have a sumptous feast of prayer, while other faiths depend on minimal rations.
One minor quibble----the Pentecostals treat speaking in tongues as another arrow in that prayer quiver.
 
Here is a wise word of advice from a former evangelical Protestant (me!):

**Many Protestants, especially evangelicals, believe that the Bible teaches that we must “have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ” in order to go to heaven.

The reason they think Catholicism is leading people to hell is that they think Catholicism does not teach a “personal relationship with Jesus.”**

As Catholics, we know this is not true at all.

As a Catholic, I enjoy a very deep personal relationship with Jesus through the Eucharist and the other sacraments, and through a deep prayer life. I know many of you have the same testimony.

Our current Pope in his inaugural address emphasized the need for a personal relationship with Jesus.

Here is a quote: “If we let Christ into our lives, we lose nothing, nothing, absolutely nothing of what makes life free, beautiful and great. No! Only in this friendship are the doors of life opened wide. Only in this friendship is the great potential of human existence truly revealed. Only in this friendship do we experience beauty and liberation. And so, today, with great strength and great conviction, on the basis of long personal experience of life, I say to you, dear young people: Do not be afraid of Christ! He takes nothing away, and He gives you everything. When we give ourselves to Him, we receive a hundred-fold in return. Yes, open, open wide the doors to Christ - and you will find true life. Amen.”

Here is a link to the entire address: boston-catholic-journal.com/inaugural_address_of_Pope_Benedict_XVI.htm

**So when you meet evangelical Protestants and you begin talking together about your faiths, emphasize your personal relationship with Jesus. Tell them that He is your Friend and your Lord. Tell them how much you love Him and love to spend time with Him in prayer and service. **

Daniel Marsh delivered a very good piece of advice when he said to “learn to word your testimoniies in language that we understand.” I agree with him.

Tell them about your personal friendship (or relationship) with Jesus.

Tell them how you “accepted Jesus into your heart” at some point in your life (your First Holy Communion? your Confirmation? when you grew up and had your own children?). To “accept Jesus into your heart” means that you internalized your Christianity and it became real to you, not just a “creed” that your parents baptized you into. Many of you can testify about a specific time/place where this happened to you. **THAT’S what evangelical Protestants are looking for–an indication that you have CHOSEN to follow Jesus. **

Tell them that Jesus is your personal Lord and Savior–this is straight out of the Mass–“We await the coming of our Savior, Jesus Christ.” This is a phrase that evangelical Protestants will understand.

DON’T tell them about your baptism. Even though we know that the Bible teaches that “baptism saves you,” and that the Biblical definition of being “born again” means to be baptized, well, they don’t believe that. So don’t burden them with it (yet). Wait until they are ready to understand.

Don’t tell them about Eucharist. They won’t believe you.
Instead, tell them the things that I am telling you to say, and then when they accept you as a true Christian, invite them to Mass with you. Once they are there, the Lord Jesus Himself will reveal Himself to them in the Eucharist. I know several Protestants, including me!-- who say the same thing–“I recognized Jesus in the Bread.”

And don’t tell them about the saints. They believe you are practicing a great abomination by “speaking with the dead.” Again, once they trust you as a Christian, then the saints themselves will reveal themselves. You don’t have to plead their case for them.

Another thing you can say that they will understand is to tell them that you read the Bible and attend Bible studies and prayer times with other Christians. A lot of evangelical Protestants honestly believe that Catholics don’t read the Bible. Let them know that many Catholics, including you, DO read the Bible and pray.

One more thing–Daniel keeps asking you to “show him your works.” One thing Catholics have tons of is WORKS. Show them (modestly).

Catholics have led the fight against abortion–tell them about your involvement in the pro-life movement.

Catholics help the poor in many ways–tell them how you personally get involved helping the poor through your Church.

Catholics are known for establishing hospitals and working in the healing fields–is there a Catholic hospital in or near your town? Point it out to your evangelical Protestant friends and tell them about several Catholic doctors or other health care workers you know who work there.

Tell them about disaster relief–Catholics were and still are among the first to arrive in New Orleans to help the victims of Katrina–tell them how you personally got involved.

Tell them about ministries to the homeless in your community, about soup kitchens run by Catholics.

Tell them about how Catholics are leading the fight to keep marriage defined as “between one man and one woman.”

And tell them about little acts of kindness that you know about in your parish. E.g., in our parish, a group of women faithfully visit one of their own who has been stricken with MS for many years now. They are there everyday helping her and showing practical love.

These little acts of everyday kindness will probably impress your Protestant friends more than all the other big works.

I hate to brag, too, but as long as they asked, tell them that Catholics are devoted to practicing the corporal works of mercy and emphasize that this is not done to earn their way to heaven, but out of love for Jesus Christ and a desire to be like Him…
 
We are expected to go to hell because we are seen as idolaters. Non-Catholic Churches have only two arrows in their prayer quiver, spoken prayers and hymns. The implication then is that spoken prayers and hymns are the only available forms of worship and using them equals worship.

Catholics on the other hand have many more arrows in that quiver. There can be prayers and hymns of adoration and worship praising , thanking, and petitioning God. We also have prayers appropriate to giving honor, veneration, petition and thanks to Saints e which do not equal worship. In addition we have the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass which is the epitomy of worship and praise to our God. The Sacrifice of the Mass makes use or can make use of every form of worship known to man, including joining ourselves to Jesus Christ in praise and honor of the Father.

Those who are not Catholic cannot understand that there are differences in the prayers and praise we give to Saints and the prayers and praise given in worshipping God. To most of them it is all a blob or blur with no differentiation. We know the differences because they are internal differences, states of mind, not obvious to the outside observer. We have a sumptous feast of prayer, while other faiths depend on minimal rations.
This may be true of some Protestant denominations, but it is definitely NOT TRUE in the Calvinist denominations and also in many Baptist denominations that utilize a lot of Calvinistic theology (e.g., Conference Baptists).

The Calvinists (Reformed and Presbyterian) teach that ALL of life lived “in Christ” is an act of worship to God.

I remember reading an article when we in the Reformed Church that said that the farmer ploughing his fields is perfoming no less an act of worship than the pastor preaching from the pulpit.

This is one of the major reasons why Calvinism became so popular and attracted so many people–it raised the value of common work and the common worker, both men and women. No longer was there a heirarchy of importance in God’s eyes–now even the street sweeper’s work had infinite and holy worth.

I still believe this teaching. I still believe that a woman rearing a child is performing an act of worship to God. I believe that a teenager skating a program is performing an act of worship to God. I believe that when done in Christ, ALL that we do is an act of worship. After all, the Bible tells us to “do all to the glory of God” and that is what worship is–ascribing to God the Worth that is rightfully His.

So be careful to discern and understand what kind of Protestant you are talking with. The “two arrows” argument will miss the target with Calvinists!
 
Hi
I am Catholic and I get annoyed when I see on other forums other Christians saying Catholicism leads to hell.
Why do they say this?
Please reassure me because sometimes I get worried about it,.
I’m late getting into this but, as discussed upstream, this view of the fate of Catholics is not shared by all non-Catholics. I am certain that Catholicism does not lead to hell. Anyone who argues that it does is, at worst, presumptuous (by claiming to know the mind of God) or, at best, seriously misguided.
 
Luckily I have only seen this in a few fundamentalist groups that don’t consider themselves Protestant. They say they were never part of the Church.

These groups in particular seem to focus more on anti-Catholic rhetoric than their own relationships with God. Ironically, they’ll be the first to tell you to judge not. :rolleyes:

My theory is that they say Catholics are hell bound because they are insecure…although, they’d NEVER admit it. It seems like they repeat the same lie in order to convince themselves they are right.
They don’t realize it but they are part of the Roman Catholic Church if they read our bible. They may nnot beleive in the seven sacraments but they are there for them if they use their free will and seek the truth and listen tothe hatred of some who are disalushioned by their own failures and blame the teachings of the Church. Pray for them that their hearts will not be hardened and will open it to the beauty of the Roman Catholic Chyrch.
 
Here is a wise word of advice from a former evangelical Protestant (me!):
wise word ?? human wisdom!!

4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, 5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God. 1 Cor 2:4-5

I noticed you didn’t give any biblical evidence for what you believe.

As for the OP’s question, well isn’t it sin that separates mankind from God. Doesn’t the Bible teach that the wages of sin is death, which is eternal separation from God in hell.
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For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Rom 6:23*

Doesn’t the Bible teach us that God gave His only begotten Son to die on the cross to save sinners. Doesn’t God say in His written Word that He doesn’t want anyone to perish(go to hell) but that they repent.

The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9

Doesn’t the God teach us the following in His written word;
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For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. Eph 2:8-9*

Saving faith is in Christ alone, not in baptism + Christ.

So the answer to the OP’s question is that sin takes people to hell and Christ Jesus alone takes you to heaven.

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Becasue they are mentally ill fundamentalists?
Or just bigoted and ignorant who does not know what the Christians in the time of the Apostles really believed.
 
I notice some Scripture has been left out regarding salvation and what it means to truly be in Christ:
The book of John, chapter 6:
53: Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54: Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
55: For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56: He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
57: As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
58: This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
So one answer to the OP is, “Because Protestants do not listen to Christ sufficiently.”
 
Becasue they are mentally ill fundamentalists?
Or just bigoted and ignorant who does not know what the Christians in the time of the Apostles really believed.
Unfortunately, many are just good people led astray. Reformation propaganda is amazingly durable, despite being easily refuted with the very Scripture the fundamentalist reveres above all.

It’s not limited to fundamentalists—look at how Jeremiah Wright propagates the notion that the U.S. government invented AIDS. That was actually KGB disinformation from the 80s, as detailed in Christopher Andrew’s “The Sword and the Shield”, drawn from the KGB’s archives. It was a complete fabrication, yet many Americans to this day believe it because people they trust repeat it.
 
Well in Pennsylvania a lot of protestant churches have “First Church of God” labeled on them. What do most people think?
 
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