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TheAmazingGrace
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It’s okay. I’ll wait.
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HarryStotle
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That would be a straw man filled with plastic straws, right Boom?TheAmazingGrace:
Not to mention people who are okay with interracial marriages are the REAL racists, right Harry?
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HarryStotle
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Start a thread, we could compare passages and context.
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Scott_Milso
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I didn’t think you’d actually tell us who you thought did more beheadings and stonings
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TheAmazingGrace
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I didn’t think you’d provide concrete numbers.
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BoomBoomMancini
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It’s actually a pretty fair distillation of your views, at least as you used to represent them.
As an aside, I do love this professorial air you’re affecting.
As an aside, I do love this professorial air you’re affecting.
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Scott_Milso
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So far I’ve found 0 cases of Catholic beheadings and stonings for 2017 (most recent complete year) and a combined 37 cases of Muslim beheadings and stonings putting the Catholic percentage at 0% and the Muslim % significantly higher.
Catholic cases =0%
Muslim = 37/180000000
Catholic cases =0%
Muslim = 37/180000000
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HarryStotle
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We can also correct the Koch brothers level of influence…HarryStotle:
Thank you for that correction
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/index.php?party=R&cycle=2018
The Dems appear to have no shortage of influencers…
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/index.php?party=D&cycle=2018
Compare those numbers to the amounts from SuperPacs…
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TheAmazingGrace
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Awesome. Now, in which countries did said executions take place?
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Scott_Milso
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Right now I have the stonings up on my screen and 10 of them iccued in 2017 in Iran
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KatyA
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Hi RCIAGratuate, for me, religious freedom is extremely important and something we recognize can and does get siezed with increase in government control.
To liberals, the seeming fruit of the left is acceptance of all and giving to the poor. (I don’t see this, I see taking from the poor and working class and giving to large charities that produce more expenses than assistance to the poor. I also see shunning those who follow morals as set forth by God.) And to liberals, the right is cold and heartless by wanting lower taxes, seeking to restrict the power of government except for it’s military ability.
As Catholics, we don’t feel a need for a liberal government to take taxes and redistribute them as they see fit. We have a church and don’t need the liberal human interpretation as to what the moral high ground is. [2 Peter 1: 20-21; 20 know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, 21 for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the Holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God.] The Church’s constantly collecting and giving. We trust the moral authority of the church. We have the poor box in every church and our ability to see God in others is the greatest opportunity for charity. We follow God’s established moral rulings rather than let liberal humans persuade us of the opposite. Catholics are keenly aware of the evil present in the desires of humans, as Jesus tells us we think like humans and not like God. Even Peter rebuked Jesus saying ‘God forbid’ after Jesus told them he was going to be killed. And Jesus’s response to Peter was ‘get behind me Satan.’ By today’s mentality Peter is clearly correct— but of course we know who Jesus is and therefore ignore today’s thinking and choose God.
By the liberals metbod, we all become consumers of charity. The gift of giving freely is taken from us— tax collectors were grouped with sinners through the New Testament. They were advised take no more than they’ve been ordered to.
Additionally, much of what is celebrated by the left is gravely sinful. Physical homosexual relations is a grave sin (but not thoughts and feelings that aren’t acted on). And of course abortion is a grave sin. So by celebrating these grave sins, children are encouraged to do the same. As Catholics, we don’t want our children turning to a life of sin. Especially sin that kills the soul.
To liberals, the seeming fruit of the left is acceptance of all and giving to the poor. (I don’t see this, I see taking from the poor and working class and giving to large charities that produce more expenses than assistance to the poor. I also see shunning those who follow morals as set forth by God.) And to liberals, the right is cold and heartless by wanting lower taxes, seeking to restrict the power of government except for it’s military ability.
As Catholics, we don’t feel a need for a liberal government to take taxes and redistribute them as they see fit. We have a church and don’t need the liberal human interpretation as to what the moral high ground is. [2 Peter 1: 20-21; 20 know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, 21 for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the Holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God.] The Church’s constantly collecting and giving. We trust the moral authority of the church. We have the poor box in every church and our ability to see God in others is the greatest opportunity for charity. We follow God’s established moral rulings rather than let liberal humans persuade us of the opposite. Catholics are keenly aware of the evil present in the desires of humans, as Jesus tells us we think like humans and not like God. Even Peter rebuked Jesus saying ‘God forbid’ after Jesus told them he was going to be killed. And Jesus’s response to Peter was ‘get behind me Satan.’ By today’s mentality Peter is clearly correct— but of course we know who Jesus is and therefore ignore today’s thinking and choose God.
By the liberals metbod, we all become consumers of charity. The gift of giving freely is taken from us— tax collectors were grouped with sinners through the New Testament. They were advised take no more than they’ve been ordered to.
Additionally, much of what is celebrated by the left is gravely sinful. Physical homosexual relations is a grave sin (but not thoughts and feelings that aren’t acted on). And of course abortion is a grave sin. So by celebrating these grave sins, children are encouraged to do the same. As Catholics, we don’t want our children turning to a life of sin. Especially sin that kills the soul.
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Scott_Milso
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The more I dig, the more I realize that number of 37 is actually significantly lower than the actual number.
Still at zero for Catholics though.
Let me know if you find some examples I might be midsing
Still at zero for Catholics though.
Let me know if you find some examples I might be midsing
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HarryStotle
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Why not link to the actual thread so people can judge for themselves based upon my actual words, rather than your distilled impressions?
As an aside, your blindsiding snippiness is beneath you.
If you have an actual contribution to make to this thread, do so.
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TheAmazingGrace
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Could you provide links?
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RCIAGraduate
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Lovely answer, thank you. Sadly, I feel this thread has gone overboard and it may be time to put it asleep. I guess, at the end of the day, it’s a free country, people are free to have their own choices but some issues and principles do matter.
@Camoderator, it may be time to draw curtains.
@Camoderator, it may be time to draw curtains.
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Scott_Milso
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Various sources you can easily find, including the BBC, CNN, NBC news, the guardian and various women’s rights web sites
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Scott_Milso
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Just a quick example (Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.)
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HarryStotle
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And for balance – instead of half truths – you might want to search for how many Jewish people were saved from concentration camps by the actions of Catholics.
Which takes us back to the point that the numbers of “Catholics” who support abortion on demand is roughly the same as the general population in western countries.
That, however, says nothing about the what the authentic Catholic view on abortion actually is, does it?
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TheAmazingGrace
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Okay. So, based on the 37 executions that took place in countries where ISIS is still active, you feel confident in condemning all one billion Muslims as women-hating, gay-stoning barbarians?
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TheAmazingGrace
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So it doesn’t matter what people do, but what their Holy Book says?
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