Why do some Catholics lean politically conservative?

[DENNYINMI]

It’s even sloppier when currently used by our brother and sister fundamentalists. Perhaps that is why we see it so much in the King James Version and only once in the NIV.
It is used as a derogative term in todays climate to distinguish persons that are currently being barred from entry into our country.
We won’t even begin to talk about extraterrestrial lifeforms…

The word is “stranger” in the land and Exodus tells us how they are to be treated.

 

[DENNYINMI]

But in the process, they’re bringing a lot of the gang violence and drug cartels into this country… which is why people object, because if they totally bypass the system, we don’t have a way of telling good eggs from bad eggs.

Yes, all those dangerous woman and children…We don’t have a way of telling good from bad? And we send men to the moon…we’re quite the anomaly, are we not?
That means we are a peculiarity…hahaha…have a good day!~

 

[Augustinian]

The word is “stranger” in the land and Exodus tells us how they are to be treated.

Some of these “strangers” aren’t unknown and aren’t “strangers” at all.

Alien is word, “immigrant” is inappropriate as that indicates someone who is here with the intention of staying. An alien could be someone on a school visa, a diplomatic visa, tourist, in the US temporary for work (folks like Canelo or Rusev), someone just passing through, not necessarily someone that has any intent of staying.

 

[blackforest]

I hear generalizations like this, but I’ve personally worked for a couple of extremely inefficient and bureaucratic charities/non-profits.

 

[MarkInOregon]

Perhaps we could give the hungry person both a fish to eat and a fishing pole so that he/she is not hungry while they learn to fish?

 

[MarkInOregon]

I’m for assisting all of the aforementioned, but excuse me in my discernment that focus on the unborn just isn’t geared to when that unborn child is here. Where is the assist and pro-advocating for assistance for child and mother until that mother is on her feet again?..And this would include medical assist. I agree, spare the child. But support the child as well. Food too, and housing if needed. Are we going to educate as well? I believe medical assistance is a human right, and the Church agrees.

We have organizations that are focused on and advocate for those who are here and who provide assistance to them. I also know of pregnancy clinics who provide parenting classes and provide diapers, car seats, clothing to those mothers who decided to keep their child and come in after the child is born–this isn’t just advocating for it’s also providing assistance to–so I’m not sure what your real beef is here. Do you think the unborn should not be advocated for?

The Peace of Christ,
Mark

 

[Ender]

I’m for assisting all of the aforementioned, but excuse me in my discernment that focus on the unborn just isn’t geared to when that unborn child is here. Where is the assist and pro-advocating for assistance for child and mother until that mother is on her feet again?

The charge that the anti-abortion right is indifferent to children after they are born is an allegation completely divorced from reality. It is made not because it is true but because one party needed something to claim to offset the negative effects of their support of abortion. The typical rationale for this claim is the undeniable fact that their party always supports higher amounts of social spending, which is not the same as supporting policies that are actually beneficial. The charge was bogus when it was invented and it is no less bogus today.

 

[TK421]

Hello, how are you? I just want to ask why some Catholics lean conservative or libertarian on many political or policy issues? For example, when I look at the issues outside of certain social issues, it seems like the Catholic position would be very compatible with the left-leaning or progressive view. And I know this sounds childish but the conservative or “right-leaning” agenda seems to be presented in a way that is well “harsh”.

PS: I don’t want this discussion to spiral out of control; meaning I want civil and calm discussion. If rules are against political postings, then, please flag this discussion so it may close.
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People are influenced by a lot of things other than their faith. The faith of the Church is supposed to trump everything and be a person’s end all and be all and hope and joy, but that isn’t how it works in reality.
Most leftist parties have platforms that conforms with a Culture of Death; pro-choice, acceptance of euthanasia or assisted suicide, pro-Sexual Revolution ideas, etc., that are all evils in of themselves and cause immeasurable suffering to people, especially to the most vulnerable, such as children. It leads to hollow and empty lives, chasing fleeting pleasure after pleasure, and more and more, shunning away from commitment, duty, honor ,and fidelity.

In some areas related to Social Justice, a lot of Catholics both past and present have leaned left. In the United States, Dorothy Day was a devout Catholic and she was in many ways not at all viewed as a conservative, though she wasn’t “progressive” either. In the United States, the current president is regrettablyfar from the image of how a Christian leader or a man ought to be.

So there’s not necessarily anywhere for a Catholic to lay their head.

 

[philipl]

Please note the above post RCIAGraduate ^^^^It is not unusual for the “right” (since we’re marginalizing/and labeling) to believe the government is incompetent, except of course when it comes to big military which is most ironic. It is one of the areas government has been most incompetent. We’re the only nation to have dropped an atomic bomb on another nation…This went far beyond even the Old Testament “an eye for an eye”…The concept of small government and big military has never ceased to amaze me.

I would love to see the USA spend less money on the military.

 

[Rasoleil]

Yeah, anytime I mention that I’ma liberal Democrat, I often get diatribes that I’m pro-abortion and a baby-killer. I put an immediate end to that illogical thinking and tell them that it’s not a mutually exclusive thing. Most have understood.

 

[Rasoleil]

And extraterrestrial aliens always get a bad rap too.

 

[glorybe]

There are several reasons why I am a Conservative, but the main #1 reason is that the Democrats/liberals support and promote abortion and I would never want to identify with a group, or vote for anyone who disregards the sanctity of human life.

 

[Rob2]

@RCIAGraduate , you ask , " Why do some Catholics lean politically conservative ?"

I don’t know .

I used to lean to the left .

In the last two general elections here I have not voted because I have come to realise that none of the candidates shared my views whatever label they have stuck on them .

So I suppose one might say I don’t lean because I prefer to stand upright .

I still respect many politicians , and I think many of them do believe their politics is for the betterment of their country . But having got older , and looking back , I see that they achieve little .

 

[MonteRCMS]

I would love to see the USA spend less money on the military.

What should we spend?

What would you cut?

Should we spend zero?

Neither Mexico nor Canada is a threat.

Would zero be appropriate?

What would you keep?

 

[MonteRCMS]

We’re the only nation to have dropped an atomic bomb on another nation…

You do realize that World War Two encompassed pretty much the whole northern hemisphere.

You do realize that both Germany and Japan were also working on an atomic bomb.

 

[MonteRCMS]

The word ‘alien’ has more than one definition, and it is now used disparagingly (this word means derogatory) and is currently associated with persons that are not wanted here. (this means in the current status of Trump political minds)
I don’t care if someone is legal. (This means someone with papers or born here, i.e. a native to the land)…Many are running from places where they cannot even drink the water, and they are running for their lives. (This would mean running from danger)

Instead of running here, why don’t they fix their home countries?

It took a tremendous amount of work for us to get here.

Potable water is not that difficult.

Israel now has surplus water using technology.

If the USA is such a great place, why is it such a great place?

Have you read the Constitution and the Federalist Papers?

Can we absorb seven billion people?

 

[philipl]

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Yeah, anytime I mention that I’ma liberal Democrat, I often get diatribes that I’m pro-abortion and a baby-killer. I put an immediate end to that illogical thinking and tell them that it’s not a mutually exclusive thing. Most have understood.

Yeah, anytime I mention that I’m an unapologetic conservative , I often get diatribes that I’m heartless, harsh, and going against catholic teachings . I try to put end to their ignorance, but being they are narrow minded they never understand and continue to tell me I am a poor catholic.

 

[Roseeurekacross]

i read on another thread you guys are still a british colony! under the constitution.

 

[DENNYINMI]

Instead of running here, why don’t they fix their home countries?

It took a tremendous amount of work for us to get here.

Be aware that when one “googles” something such as “what immigrants brought to America” that even ‘google’ was brought to you by…hold unto your seat!..Yes…an immigrant.!!

While we wallow in our exceptionalism we need be aware that the majority of things we can boast of were brought to us by immigrants coming to this country for what ever reasons they did. We all stand on the backs of immigrants.

 

[PaulfromIowa]

The US Constitution does not endorse slavery or male only suffrage.