Why do some Catholics support "Gay Marriage"

[SuperLuigi]

In the early 60s I was a naive girl who, along with many members of my local Catholic Church, actively protested against interracial marriage.

Interracial marriage between straight couples cannot be compared to gay relationships to justify so-called gay “marriage”.

Though the Church itself did not actively oppose it, it did not immediately rally behind it, either. I am ashamed of those years.

I may not be as old as the church, dear, but I’ve been around enough decades to state educated observations of Her. Enough observations, in fact, that I know in my heart God has a plan, and that perhaps the Church hasn’t tuned into Gods Will as much as they’d like to believe.

Maybe not in the general sense at all times, but they’ve got marriage nailed down in pretty solid terms.

Make no mistake. I love The Church. But, if I may use your analogy, She is a child in some ways, and She just doesn’t fully understand what her Holy Father is trying to say. Not just yet.

Scholars have been studying Church morality and philosophy for hundreds and hundreds of years even relative to natural law and previous philosophers.

It is an intensely researched area and emotional selfishness doesn’t hold a candle to it.

 

[Kitcat1968]

Interracial marriage between straight couples cannot be compared to gay relationships to justify so-called gay “marriage”.



Maybe not in the general sense at all times, but they’ve got marriage nailed down in pretty solid terms.

Scholars have been studying Church morality and philosophy for hundreds and hundreds of years even relative to natural law and previous philosophers.

It is an intensely researched area and emotional selfishness doesn’t hold a candle to it.

Carry on sharing your sources and your polls, darling. In the great span of things, God knows the truth. And I have no doubt he’ll someday enlighten the Church with such knowledge. This is why I remain loyal to her. God will share his wisdom.

 

[Kitcat1968]

Interracial marriage between straight couples cannot be compared to gay relationships to justify so-called gay “marriage”.



Maybe not in the general sense at all times, but they’ve got marriage nailed down in pretty solid terms.

Scholars have been studying Church morality and philosophy for hundreds and hundreds of years even relative to natural law and previous philosophers.

It is an intensely researched area and emotional selfishness doesn’t hold a candle to it.

You completely misunderstood the meaning behind my story. And roll your eyes at the churches lack of action in the past all you want. Disrespectful, if you ask me, but so be it. God will show her the way.

 

[Sochi]

Because they don’t understand the proper definition of marriage.

According to who??? Have you not read the definitions of marriage in the Holy Bible?

 

[Rau]

I may not be as old as the church, dear, but I’ve been around enough decades to state educated observations of Her. Enough observations, in fact, that I know in my heart God has a plan, and that perhaps the Church hasn’t tuned into Gods Will as much as they’d like to believe.

Make no mistake. I love The Church. But, if I may use your analogy, She is a child in some ways, and She just doesn’t fully understand what her Holy Father is trying to say. Not just yet.

You are not unique in your age and ability to make observations. Your sense of superiority- of having a deeper wisdom than the Church, is however, breathtaking. Unfortunately, all your posts rest on that alone.

 

[Kitcat1968]

You are not unique in your age and ability to make observations. Your sense of superiority- of having a deeper wisdom than the Church, is however, breathtaking. Unfortunately, all your posts rest on that alone.

You’re confusing my faith in the Church with superiority.

We’re going to just have to agree to disagree. Though you may think otherwise, I consider myself Catholic, despite my assertions of the Churches shortcomings. God made us curious creatures with free will. I have no doubt God has a plan, and I’m simply acknowledging that.

Goodnight

 

[Rau]

You’re confusing my faith in the Church with superiority.

We’re going to just have to agree to disagree. Though you may think otherwise, I consider myself Catholic, despite my assertions of the Churches shortcomings. God made us curious creatures with free will. I have no doubt God has a plan, and I’m simply acknowledging that.

Goodnight

Your faith in the Church is that She will eventually see it your way. This faith is born of superiority!

Best wishes and good night.

 

[Kitcat1968]

Your faith in the Church is that She will eventually see it your way. This faith is born of superiority!

Best wishes and gute nacht.

You are a very presumptuous person to make such assumptions about what kind of woman I am without knowing more than a few paragraphs about me.

I’m beginning to think this is not the right forum for me. It appears one is attacked and/or interrogated for expressing their views here. My church welcomes questions and critiques of the holy church and offers guidance, not accusations.

I believe I may be done here.

 

[Rau]

You are a very presumptuous person to make such assumptions about what kind of woman I am without knowing more than a few paragraphs about me.

I’m beginning to think this is not the right forum for me. It appears one is attacked and/or interrogated for expressing their views here. My church welcomes questions and critiques of the holy church and offers guidance, not accusations.

I believe I may be done here.

The Catholic Church welcomes sincere enquiry, and she accepts that the faithful will have doubts, but expects them to do their best to adhere to and support its teaching. You have well exceeded that in what you have said here. You have formulated another teaching, and declared it right and the Church wrong. You have not been open to “hear” the Church- only to declare the position your conscience has taken, and to point out your many years watching the church make error after error. As a consolation, you proffer confidence that the Church will come round to your position in due course!

I make no assumptions about you. I only respond to what you have written. I have not attacked you, but I have questioned and challenged your statements and your arguments. This is the nature of a discussion board such as this.

 

[Robert_in_SD]

I am a devout catholic for over 50 years. I do not support same sex marriage as far as my faith is concerned. I do, however, support civil same sex marriage. It does no harm to the church, as no civil marriages do. I feel we catholics have become too preoccupied with this issue. It is not an attack on HER, the one true church; it is a civil matter. I prefer to keep my faith and my politics separate…but I digress. I know many disagree.

Love & Peace, Kitcat

Hello Kitcat1968:

I’ve read your back and forth. I know other Catholics that take your position. And I think it arises from a feeling of sympathy for those same-sex couples who want their union to share the same level of legal recognition that a marriage shares. While I applaud your sensitivity to these real desires, respectfully, I think that your conclusion is logically misguided. I don’t think that it is fair to those who are married (in the traditional sense of the word) to ignore the life-giving aspect of that union in the name of “tolerance.” We should not ignore truth just to avoid hurt feelings. (Real friendship and genuine love calls us as Catholics to be truthful with friends even when that may cause hurt feelings.)

I also think it’s not healthy for western society to ignore that life-generating aspect of a marital union for the sake of further legitimizing another different type of relationship that is already largely accepted by mainstream western culture. (I’m making this distinction without addressing the Church’s moral teachings on the legitimacy of homosexual acts.) The idea of changing the definition of marriage, so that it sheds the life-generating aspect for the sake of appeasement, seems to me to be a forced attempt to legitimize a lifestyle choice, rather than an attempt to correct some long-accepted inequality.

Would it not be more fair and accurate to begin with the truth that there are real differences between a same sex partnership and a marriage–on a natural level–and then work from that point of truth towards an honest solution that meets the underlying goal, but is also grounded in mutual tolerance?

Peace,
Robert