Why do some people reject Vatican II?

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Can someone please explain? I know some info on the second Vatican council but people, especially traditionalists, talk about how much they despise Vatican II etc… Can someone explain?
 
Ok I guess my question was moved or renamed but what is the "ghost"t of the second Vatican council?
 
excellent question. I too am anxiously waiting for one of the smart folk to answer.
 
I am a convert and Vatican II happened long before I became Catholic.

I have some thoughts about this, but I certainly haven’t read any books about Vatican II and don’t feel qualified to answer.

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It’s been 50 years. Still a small amount of people not happy.
Either Christ never abandons His church or He doesn’t.
You decide.

It’s Christmas Eve.
 
I read someone else’s theory, and unfortunately I cannot remember whose.

The documents of V2 are sometimes vague and sometimes downright ambiguous. However, the Pope instructed us to understand the “in the light of tradition,” so we are to look for the meaning which is in line with the previous teachings of the Church, right?

Unfortunately, some people interpreted the documents in a way that was *not *in line with the Church. Remember at this time people might not have general access to the documents themselves, or time to read and understand them, so when they heard others spreading their misinterpretations, they thought those were the Church’s ideas. And so they dislike V2 because of that misunderstanding.
 
It’s been 23 years since I became Catholic…so I don’t know much about Vatican 2…only from what my Mom and her side of the family told me…they were all Catholic…I was raised Anglican…I do recall an elderly lady at church telling me it was a good thing because now those Catholics who go to church are the ones who want to be there…not because they were more or less forced to go.
 
St_Francis said:
I read someone else’s theory, and unfortunately I cannot remember whose.

The documents of V2 are sometimes vague and sometimes downright ambiguous. However, the Pope instructed us to understand the “in the light of tradition,” so we are to look for the meaning which is in line with the previous teachings of the Church, right?

Unfortunately, some people interpreted the documents in a way that was *not *in line with the Church. Remember at this time people might not have general access to the documents themselves, or time to read and understand them, so when they heard others spreading their misinterpretations, they thought those were the Church’s ideas. And so they dislike V2 because of that misunderstanding.
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A lot of evil things happened right after Vatican II in Western societies. Also, within the Church heretics (who were already at work for years earlier) became much more prominent. It was tempting to blame Vatican II for everything bad that happened after it, even though the external and internal problems were previously underway, and also impacted Protestant denominations that had nothing like a Vatican II.

In the 1970s and 80s anyone who had any kind of agenda would describe their opinions as Vatican II, and would label anyone opposed to their opinions as supposedly being opposed to Vatican II. The fact that people misused Vatican II in this way does not invalidate Vatican II.

When I read people who say they reject Vatican II nowadays, they seldom cite anything specific in the Vatican II documents but they seem to reflect hostility to current Catholic Church authority.
 
b_ulmen said:
excellent question. I too am anxiously waiting for one of the smart folk to answer.
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You are probably not going to get one because I think that topic has been banned, so that if anyone actually wanted to inform you, they’d shut it down.
 
I think it has to do with what has been perceived by some as a loss of reverence, discipline, and identity. VII was an attempt to reform and refocus. Much of that was good but not perfect.
 
Billy112 said:
Much is done in the “Spirit of Vatican II” that isn’t actually there.

catholicnewsherald.com/viewpoints/50-news/roknewspager-viewpoints/5981-deacon-james-h-toner-vatican-ii-what-we-know-that-ain-t-so

This is a good, concise, calmly written article about Vatican II.
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People used to say, Vatican II taught A, B, and C, just to get us moving, now my idea, D, obviously flows from that movement. (Of course everyone has their own idea of what should flow next).

I don’t disagree with Vatican II. If I were to point out a shortcoming, it is 50 years old. They never foresaw the enormous growth of secularism in the West, specifically the power of the concentrated mass media. They did not foresee how much Catholics in the West would be shaped, sometimes silenced into passivity, by the secular culture, buying into the culture’s dogmas.

I’m not complaining, just mentioning it in hindsight. Everything they wrote is still relevant, I reject nothing in V2.
 
Yea, Just remember how the people love Jesus, but at the end,they said Crucify him,for then too did n,t understand why Jesus came.
 
Most of the people who were around during V2 have long since gone to their eternal rewards, regardless of what they thought about the council.

Some people didn’t like what came out of Vatican 2, and people tend to reject what they don’t like.

But like I said, those folks are pretty old by now, and will soon be gone.
 
Kielbasi said:
Most of the people who were around during V2 have long since gone to their eternal rewards, regardless of what they thought about the council.

Some people didn’t like what came out of Vatican 2, and people tend to reject what they don’t like.

But like I said, those folks are pretty old by now, and will soon be gone.
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Whoa, there whippersnapper, I am 60, “around during Vatican 2” and maybe have another good 20 to 30 years left. Most who resist V2 do so because of the changes in Mass more than anything else.
 
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